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Post by Being Alive on May 10, 2024 21:14:12 GMT
Managed to pick up a standing for cast change tomorrow which is nice!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2024 21:25:39 GMT
I know nothing about this show other than what I’ve read here and seen on the Oliviers. But from that I can’t see it travelling to Broadway successfully.
42 Balloons on the other hand….
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Post by Matt on May 10, 2024 22:00:01 GMT
Saw the show tonight after quite a few months away from it, and this time with a Broadway audience in mind, and honestly they’re not gonna understand a word of it. It’s too fast paced and wordy, and Americans have a hard enough time understanding English people at the best of times.
There was also a few of the die hard fans in, which means a lot of preemptive clapping, laughing and cheering, which ruined lots of moments for me, tbh. Good luck to anyone there tomorrow.
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Post by angelcake on May 10, 2024 22:52:54 GMT
Saw the show tonight after quite a few months away from it, and this time with a Broadway audience in mind, and honestly they’re not gonna understand a word of it. It’s too fast paced and wordy, and Americans have a hard enough time understanding English people at the best of times. There was also a few of the die hard fans in, which means a lot of preemptive clapping, laughing and cheering, which ruined lots of moments for me, tbh. Good luck to anyone there tomorrow. I have to admit I found the mincemeat fan club a little annoying too. It is great that there is so much loyalty and support for the show, but it is quite distracting for other audience members. |
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Post by amyja89 on May 10, 2024 22:56:33 GMT
I was a semi regular Wicked attendee in the Kerry Ellis/first Alexia Khadime days, and always avoided any kind of cast changes like the plague. Those fans that seem to want to extend their relationship with any show beyond traditional audience enjoyment always infuriated me. I hope Mincemeat isn’t as unhinged as that era was!
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Post by Paulw on May 10, 2024 23:24:35 GMT
I was a semi regular Wicked attendee in the Kerry Ellis/first Alexia Khadime days, and always avoided any kind of cast changes like the plague. Those fans that seem to want to extend their relationship with any show beyond traditional audience enjoyment always infuriated me. I hope Mincemeat isn’t as unhinged as that era was! I was around during those times and before with Idina and from what I have seen from them they are just as bad but the difference from those days to now is they were more respectful in the theatre then and now it seems to be all about them and they are turning it into a Taylor Swift concert which for some shows is fine but others not! No one should behave in a theatre in a way that lessens others enjoyment of something everyone has paid for |
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Post by bonnotonno on May 10, 2024 23:25:55 GMT
Yes I went recently and the constant pre-emptive laughing was getting on my nerves, it felt like the first couple rows were in a competition of how loud they could each laugh. Normally I can appreciate other people finding joy in things, especially at the theatre...but I spent a lot of moments being confused at why people were laughing only for then something to happen which everyone else seemed to know was coming. I loved the show so maybe I'll try again after cast change.
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Post by amyja89 on May 10, 2024 23:29:44 GMT
I was a semi regular Wicked attendee in the Kerry Ellis/first Alexia Khadime days, and always avoided any kind of cast changes like the plague. Those fans that seem to want to extend their relationship with any show beyond traditional audience enjoyment always infuriated me. I hope Mincemeat isn’t as unhinged as that era was! I was around during those times and before with Idina and from what I have seen from them they are just as bad but the difference from those days to now is they were more respectful in the theatre then and now it seems to be all about them and they are turning it into a Taylor Swift concert which for some shows is fine but others not! No one should behave in a theatre in a way that lessens others enjoyment of something everyone has paid for More respectful in the theatre is a fair point really, the toxicity and over the topness at Wicked in those days tended to stick within the inner politics of those fan groups, and various day queue dramas etc. Do you remember the 'Pingate' incident? Incredible times! Those cast change days in particular though, the levels of screaming and hysteria for final Defying Gravity's etc. was always incredibly obnoxious to me. I oddly remember a similar kind of fandom at Jersey Boys around the same time as well? (Sorry, gone off topic I know, back to Mincemeat!...) |
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Post by Paulw on May 11, 2024 0:47:04 GMT
I was around during those times and before with Idina and from what I have seen from them they are just as bad but the difference from those days to now is they were more respectful in the theatre then and now it seems to be all about them and they are turning it into a Taylor Swift concert which for some shows is fine but others not! No one should behave in a theatre in a way that lessens others enjoyment of something everyone has paid for More respectful in the theatre is a fair point really, the toxicity and over the topness at Wicked in those days tended to stick within the inner politics of those fan groups, and various day queue dramas etc. Do you remember the 'Pingate' incident? Incredible times! Those cast change days in particular though, the levels of screaming and hysteria for final Defying Gravity's etc. was always incredibly obnoxious to me. I oddly remember a similar kind of fandom at Jersey Boys around the same time as well? (Sorry, gone off topic I know, back to Mincemeat!...) I vaguely remember something about it, I mean there was fun and funny things during that time if you think back to things like tge 3 day sleepover for day seats for Idina’s last show. I was close with a member of the cast during that time and some of the stories were not good! You can get me talking about those days quite easily! They were good times. I think another difference from then to now is the social media and their need to make sure it’s all over it and getting one over on others, I also think that has got it all a bit more co-ordinated than organising things on MSN Messenger! Yes back to Mincemeat, I do hope that it calms down, I was in on Thursday and it did spoil the enjoyment of it in comparison to earlier in this run. |
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on May 11, 2024 6:48:00 GMT
I'm seeing it this afternoon, having booked before knowing it's cast change day. I saw it at the Southwark Playhouse in 2022 and loved it, and have been keen to see the West End incarnation. I'm pleased I'll get to see the original cast again, though I hope the 'fandom' don't spoil it. I'm pleased this show has fans, and that it's having so much success, but that shouldn't come at the expense of more general audience members.
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Post by dip on May 11, 2024 8:52:37 GMT
I saw it last night and can only think of one moment where the audience saw the punchline coming - and it's by design IMO.
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Post by iwanttix on May 12, 2024 7:20:35 GMT
Saw the show tonight after quite a few months away from it, and this time with a Broadway audience in mind, and honestly they’re not gonna understand a word of it. It’s too fast paced and wordy, and Americans have a hard enough time understanding English people at the best of times. There was also a few of the die hard fans in, which means a lot of preemptive clapping, laughing and cheering, which ruined lots of moments for me, tbh. Good luck to anyone there tomorrow. I have to admit I found the mincemeat fan club a little annoying too. It is great that there is so much loyalty and support for the show, but it is quite distracting for other audience members. Luckily the 2 times I've been I haven't seen the super fans, but I do tend to get put off by this type of audience. My one and only visit to Heathers was ruined by these overenthusiastic uberfans and if I encountered similar at Mincemeat then I would think twice about going back again. |
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on May 12, 2024 8:15:10 GMT
I'm pleased to say yesterday's matinee audience were excellent. Yes, they were enthusiastic with loud applause after every number, but there was no chatter, OTT laughing or 'look at me' moments.
It was a muck-up matinee, which was very well done. I know I didn't spot all the muck-ups, but I did enjoy the covers coming on with the birthday cake.
As for the show, it was brilliant. 'Useful' was a real highlight; Claire-Marie Hall is so good in this.
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Post by capybara on May 12, 2024 13:57:00 GMT
Last night really was an incredible celebration of this talented ensemble, the magic of the show and its passionate fandom. There was emotion - none more so than Jak’s final, tearful Dear Bill and during Useful, when he and Claire thank one another) - but there was also the hilarity and chaos that makes Mincemeat so special.
Having attended the show’s closing nights at Southwark and Riverside Studios, I had some idea what to expect but this cast change performance was another level. From Captain Jewel finally accepting Monty’s handshake, the best-staffed morgue in Britain and the reappearance of an Interesting Man, this was one for the hardcore. There were a couple of patrons who had no idea it was cast change but joined in with the revelry, despite much of it understandably going over their heads!
I can’t wait to see what Spitlip and Jak do next. I hope it’s Broadway with Mincemeat but nothing is ever certain in this industry. I am excited to see the new recruits but I will give it a few months to let them bed into their roles (although with some of them being ‘promoted’ from cover tracks, I have no doubt it will be seamless anyway).
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Post by ncbears on May 12, 2024 22:08:17 GMT
It is possible Mincemeat goes to start at a non-"Broadway" theatre such as St. Ann's Warehouse which has had several UK imports such as Let The Right One In; People Places & Things; Young Vic's Streetcar, and other shows.
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Post by darvsplanet on May 14, 2024 0:15:10 GMT
Saw the new cast’s first performance yesterday and thought I’d give my thoughts on here.
Claire, Christian, and Sean are staying with the show, they are just as great as they have been for the past year. Christian and Sean who are covers moving to principals seem to have taken the opportunity to make their characters their own and they were both the best I’ve seen them.
Emily Barber as Montagu was great, she was noticeably nervous towards the start of the show but got more confident as it went on (Missed a couple of lines and felt a bit quiet compared to the rest of the cast). She’s got the characterisation of her Montagu down, a-bit less over the top masculine than Natasha and more similar to Holly Sumpton. She will definitely settle into a great Ewen.
Chlöe Hart easily stole the show, she was already so confident in her roles, a stern and intimidating Bevan while also being so fun to watch in her comedic roles, her Haselden especially being the star of the show getting a great response from the fan-filled audience (having to deal with both a set and a costume mishap as well).
For anyone worried about losing the original cast, don’t be. The show is in great hands and for anyone who enjoyed the show, I’d definitely encourage a repeat visit for the new cast.
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Post by iwanttix on May 14, 2024 0:36:38 GMT
I'm actually more excited about seeing this new cast. The first time I went I saw Christian and Sean so for me, they were my Hester and Charles anyway. It helps I think that as I saw the original line up just once - I didn't have a huge attachment to them.
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Post by ladidah on May 14, 2024 7:46:07 GMT
It's such a quick paced show, I bet missing a line must feel awful.
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Post by thedrowsychaperone on May 20, 2024 15:54:55 GMT
Has anyone else caught the new cast yet? Any reports? 🙏
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Post by lt on May 26, 2024 17:03:01 GMT
Went to the matinee of this yesterday and this show is pure unadulterated joy!
It is so brillantly and wittily written, managing to send up many of the class and social attitudes at the time, while creating a hugely entertaining and fast-paced show. The jokes just keep coming and the lyrics and music work seamlessly with the rest of the show.
Remarkably, this is the second musical I have gone to this year, I normally can't bear musicals, so very rare for me. Prior to 2024, I hadn't been to one in years. But if all musicals were like Operation Mincemeat, I'd be a completely converted musicals fan, because this avoids all the things that I can't bear, but are frequently a feature such as saccharine storylines, characters going on a "journey", uninspiring script and lyrics, and songs awkwardly wedged into the narrative.
The five cast members were all outstanding. It's absolutely remarkable how they are able to play all the parts so brilliant, I thought best of all was Emily Barber's Montagu, her facial expressions were just perfect.
But this musical is not just hilarious, it has very poignant moments too, when Christian Andrews' Hester sings Dear Bill, she/he is clearly thinking of a lost love from the previous war and the show's remembrance of Glyndwr Michael, the tramp whose body was used in the operation, was also very thoughtful done.
Having read previous comments here about over enthusiastic audiences, I was slightly concerned, but happy to report that yesterday's audience behaviour was absolutely fine. Clapping after each song, but no singing along and the audience was quiet and fully engaged in the show.
Could not recommend this show more, go!
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Post by Stephen on May 27, 2024 14:18:15 GMT
New cast are great. Particularly strong 'actors' and can see they have been cast with a focus on comedic ability as the vocals are perhaps a little underpowered compared to before. This may improve with confidence in time too! Really though, it doesn't matter too much and offers a 'different' perspective rather than a worse one. Still a brilliant brilliant show and a hot West End ticket!
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Post by curiouskc on May 29, 2024 7:09:39 GMT
Had the pleasure of catching George Jennings very first performance as Charlie yesterday. Would never have guessed it until the rest of the cast gave him his own individual bow at the end. He was absolutely spot-on-perfect in the role and so proficient you'd think he had been doing it for months. The rest of the cast for the Tuesday matinee were Christian, Chloe, Claire-Marie and Holly Sumpton as Monty (I'm amazed that she covers two different roles in this show). First rate singers and performers the lot of them. I had previously been feeling a twinge of disappointment on missing out on the original cast (with the exception of the wonderful Claire Marie) by a few weeks but honestly, the takeovers/covers are all incredible, as is the show itself.
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Post by Matt on May 29, 2024 7:40:48 GMT
Had the pleasure of catching George Jennings very first performance as Charlie yesterday. Would never have guessed it until the rest of the cast gave him his own individual bow at the end. He was absolutely spot-on-perfect in the role and so proficient you'd think he had been doing it for months. The rest of the cast for the Tuesday matinee were Christian, Chloe, Claire-Marie and Holly Sumpton as Monty (I'm amazed that she covers two different roles in this show). First rate singers and performers the lot of them. I had previously been feeling a twinge of disappointment on missing out on the original cast (with the exception of the wonderful Claire Marie) by a few weeks but honestly, the takeovers/covers are all incredible, as is the show itself. Holly covers all 3 female roles, if you can call them that. |
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Post by thedrowsychaperone on May 29, 2024 8:16:50 GMT
Had the pleasure of catching George Jennings very first performance as Charlie yesterday. Would never have guessed it until the rest of the cast gave him his own individual bow at the end. He was absolutely spot-on-perfect in the role and so proficient you'd think he had been doing it for months. The rest of the cast for the Tuesday matinee were Christian, Chloe, Claire-Marie and Holly Sumpton as Monty (I'm amazed that she covers two different roles in this show). First rate singers and performers the lot of them. I had previously been feeling a twinge of disappointment on missing out on the original cast (with the exception of the wonderful Claire Marie) by a few weeks but honestly, the takeovers/covers are all incredible, as is the show itself. So glad to hear! I mentioned briefly before but I used to do youth theatre with George MANY years ago and always knew he was destined for great things! I know there are these cryptic emoji things over on Twitter, but are there any other ways of knowing when covers are on as I'd love to see him in this! |
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Post by craigbowker on May 29, 2024 8:28:04 GMT
Am I terrible in thinking a lot of jokes are missing with Monty having the (likely unhealthy to be fair) raspy man voice?
The new cast is fantastic (love the new Charlie in particular), but felt that Monty had a lot of jokes that depended on delivery that are just sort of delivered normally now? Might need to give it another try in a few weeks.
ALSO has anyone noticed that they have changed the show a bit? The costumes at the finale changed a bit and some language has been changed (diary > calendar) to be more friendly to those U.S. based producers I assume.
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