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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 5:51:06 GMT
Natalie Lowe would be a great addition to the panel, last year she was great on It Takes Two when reviewing the previous live show performances. Other than that, give it back to Arlene Phillips who appeared to be dropped for no apparent reason before the 2009 season I agree. I really didn't like Natalie when she was a dancer on the main show, she seemed like the kind of person who would Tonya Harding you in order to win. On 'It Takes Two' she seems much nicer, more relaxed, lighter and of course she's knowledgeable. I don't think Arlene would come back, for pride if for no other reason.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 9:31:42 GMT
I saw Natalie on the tour with Ian Waite and she was really interesting and knowledgeable in the Q&A sections as well as being nice but clearly not one for taking bullsh*t.
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 26, 2019 9:43:05 GMT
Fun fact: Natalie Lowe met her husband on a train journey from Leeds to London, which is almost the same as Connie Fisher, who met her husband on a railway platform.
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Post by wickedgrin on Apr 27, 2019 7:35:51 GMT
Fun fact: Natalie Lowe met her husband on a train journey from Leeds to London, which is almost the same as Connie Fisher, who met her husband on a railway platform. Can't write much now as I am running to the nearest railway platform to loiter and get on the first train to somewhere...….may not be back for a while!
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Post by TallPaul on Apr 27, 2019 12:46:46 GMT
The Sun's front page story today is that after last season's brouhaha, Katya will not be partnered with a sleb this year.
(For the record, it's not a publication I normally read, but I just happened to catch the headline when I was buying one of my train publications!)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 13:26:17 GMT
The Sun's front page story today is that after last season's brouhaha, Katya will not be partnered with a sleb this year. (For the record, it's not a publication I normally read, but I just happened to catch the headline when I was buying one of my train publications!) I caught sight of that on the BBC paper review...anyone who has sneaked a peak at that and can offer details pray do tell... Meanwhile in 'gossip' Karen Clifton posted a 'date night' instagram story with a man tagged in it...she was holding hands with whoever it was...well you can hardly blame her with our Kev over every tabloid of late regarding his love life...
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Post by poster J on Apr 27, 2019 15:22:48 GMT
I caught sight of that on the BBC paper review...anyone who has sneaked a peak at that and can offer details pray do tell... It's a load of crap, basically. So-called "journalist" Dan Wooton, that rag's showbiz correspondent, has some sort of vendetta against Strictly and makes up the biggest load of rubbish about it at any chance he gets... They don't finalise who does and doesn't get a partner until the pros have done tryouts with the celebs to see who might make a good fit/interesting partnership.
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Post by xanady on Apr 27, 2019 16:30:59 GMT
Celebrity showbiz insider, and friend of the stars,Dan Wooton’s next exclusive has just been released...’Elvis has been found alive and well and living on Mars!’🤪
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 8:19:31 GMT
The Sun's front page story today is that after last season's brouhaha, Katya will not be partnered with a sleb this year. (For the record, it's not a publication I normally read, but I just happened to catch the headline when I was buying one of my train publications!) I caught sight of that on the BBC paper review...anyone who has sneaked a peak at that and can offer details pray do tell... It's not much more than that really. Just speculation that Katya might not get a 'celebrity' this year and will be one of the ensemble professionals instead, while The Ginger Bomb will almost certainly be paired with someone kind of famous.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 8:48:33 GMT
I mean my investment in Katya is limited at best, but if it's a Jones-trade-off and we get more ginger I'm in...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2019 9:06:46 GMT
I mean my investment in Katya is limited at best, but if it's a Jones-trade-off and we get more ginger I'm in... To be fair, judging by the way he thrusts those hips about I think we could all be, given half the chance and possibly a Malibu and pineapple.
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Post by danb on Apr 28, 2019 16:55:34 GMT
Celebrity showbiz insider, and friend of the stars,Dan Wooton’s next exclusive has just been released...’Elvis has been found alive and well and living on Mars!’🤪 He really is a despicable waste of carbon. I don’t loathe many people, but make an exception for him. Vile.
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Post by xanady on Apr 28, 2019 16:58:29 GMT
He and the rag he works for are made for each other...a marriage made in hell👺
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Post by danb on Apr 28, 2019 17:01:47 GMT
He and the rag he works for are made for each other...a marriage made in hell👺 Imagine being a sleb at the start of your career & having to be nice to it for press. Cowell has him in his pocket and uses him to keep his acts in line too.
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Post by xanady on Apr 28, 2019 17:17:33 GMT
It is definitely a sordid, cankerous sewer-like aspect of the journalistic world for sure.A moral vacuum.
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Post by TallPaul on May 6, 2019 11:14:13 GMT
For those interested in that kind of thing, Gorka will be taking his clothes off tonight at 9pm on ITV, along with some bloke from Dancing on Ice. Obviously, being a married woman of a certain age, my very good friend Tibidabo will NOT be watching. 😛🔍
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Post by Tibidabo on Jul 22, 2019 15:32:34 GMT
If you had 2 daughters would you honestly call one Oti and the other Motsi?
Anyway. There we are. If they're going the sibling route why not Joanne? Let's just hope for the sake of all our eardrums she's the 'quieter' sister.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 22, 2019 15:36:33 GMT
Oti has to be removed as a dancer
It is just not right to have one sibling judging another - no matter how objective Motsi is being, her comments and voting will always be viewed through the nepotism filter. That is unfair to both of them.
BBC have made the wrong call here.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 22, 2019 15:51:14 GMT
I don't believe that Motsi would be biased in favour of her sister - but perception is everything. And it is inevitable that the accusations will fly no matter what she says - either she is being too kind or too harsh.
Given the kerfuffle of the last series, the producers should have selected someone who was independent - and by failing to do so, they have let down Oti and set up Motsi to get a lot of (almost certainly undeserved) stick.
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Post by TallPaul on Jul 22, 2019 15:55:24 GMT
Please try and keep up with northern news, Tibidabo. Joanne Clifton couldn't be a judge this season. She'll be far too busy fairying at the Lyceum Theatre (older sister to the world-famous Crucible Theatre.) And a bit rich coming from someone who called her pair Maxi and Mini. Our Saul agrees. 🙂
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Post by d'James on Jul 22, 2019 17:08:54 GMT
If you had 2 daughters would you honestly call one Oti and the other Motsi? Anyway. There we are. If they're going the sibling route why not Joanne? Let's just hope for the sake of all our eardrums she's the 'quieter' sister. Oh heck no. I’d have to stop watching if Joanne came back. Motsi seems lovely and I hope she does well. I agree it’ll be difficult for Oti being scored by a sister but I’m sure they’ll get it right.
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Post by lynette on Jul 22, 2019 17:16:27 GMT
They were on the show together in Germany? How did that go?
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Post by poster J on Jul 22, 2019 19:09:51 GMT
Oti has to be removed as a dancer It is just not right to have one sibling judging another - no matter how objective Motsi is being, her comments and voting will always be viewed through the nepotism filter. That is unfair to both of them. BBC have made the wrong call here. Oh good grief, what a sweeping assumption of a lack of professionalism on the part of both ladies! If people have a nepotism filter then that reflects badly on them alone and is their problem. Many people very successfully separate working and personal relationships, and Motsi and Oti have in fact done so before on the German version of Strictly. She marked Oti just as hard if not more hardly than the rest of the judges, and funnily enough no-one blinked an eyelid. Judge her dancing credentials all you like (they are almost as good as Shirley's), but to immediately clamour for her removal just because she happens to be related to Oti is just silly. If anything, Oti is the loser here as Motsi will have no option but to mark her more harshly just to deal with all the people who assume she doesn't have any professional pride or integrity.
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Post by poster J on Jul 22, 2019 19:11:35 GMT
If you had 2 daughters would you honestly call one Oti and the other Motsi? Oti is short for Otile. And I'm not sure it's any of our places to critique naming choices that may well be common in their culture..
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 22, 2019 20:24:31 GMT
Oti has to be removed as a dancer It is just not right to have one sibling judging another - no matter how objective Motsi is being, her comments and voting will always be viewed through the nepotism filter. That is unfair to both of them. BBC have made the wrong call here. Oh good grief, what a sweeping assumption of a lack of professionalism on the part of both ladies! If people have a nepotism filter then that reflects badly on them alone and is their problem. Many people very successfully separate working and personal relationships, and Motsi and Oti have in fact done so before on the German version of Strictly. She marked Oti just as hard if not more hardly than the rest of the judges, and funnily enough no-one blinked an eyelid. Judge her dancing credentials all you like (they are almost as good as Shirley's), but to immediately clamour for her removal just because she happens to be related to Oti is just silly. If anything, Oti is the loser here as Motsi will have no option but to mark her more harshly just to deal with all the people who assume she doesn't have any professional pride or integrity. If you also looked at my second post, it explains my position further. The BBC are the ones at fault here. They are creating a situation that will lead to unwarranted controversy. It is unfair to both sisters. And I think it is a mistake to have made this appointment even though it has worked in the German version. This is a no win situation for both sisters and it is wrong to have put them in this position. I am absolutely convinced of their professionalism but I am equally convinced that every score will be over analysed to look for bias either way. Strictly had a tricky 2018. They have now made 2019 harder than it needed to be.
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Post by lynette on Jul 22, 2019 21:16:13 GMT
It does look like asking for trouble. We know how balanced and reasonable we Strictly fans are........
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Post by poster J on Jul 22, 2019 21:17:34 GMT
The BBC are the ones at fault here. They are creating a situation that will lead to unwarranted controversy. It is unfair to both sisters. And I think it is a mistake to have made this appointment even though it has worked in the German version. This is a no win situation for both sisters and it is wrong to have put them in this position. I am absolutely convinced of their professionalism but I am equally convinced that every score will be over analysed to look for bias either way. Strictly had a tricky 2018. They have now made 2019 harder than it needed to be. It's not wrong in any way, shape, or form to hire a properly qualified judge with proven TV credentials who knows what she is talking about. They both had a choice in this, Motsi didn't have to accept the role, but she shouldn't have to turn it down just because people decide to make silly assumptions just because she happens to be related to one of the pro dancers. People keep going on and on about how it is only an entertainment show, so if they want to be hypocritical and now obsess about scoring then that's up to them, but they will be the only ones coming out of this badly, not the BBC.
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Post by amp09 on Jul 22, 2019 22:34:25 GMT
Oti has to be removed as a dancer It is just not right to have one sibling judging another - no matter how objective Motsi is being, her comments and voting will always be viewed through the nepotism filter. That is unfair to both of them. BBC have made the wrong call here. Oh good grief, what a sweeping assumption of a lack of professionalism on the part of both ladies! If people have a nepotism filter then that reflects badly on them alone and is their problem. Many people very successfully separate working and personal relationships, and Motsi and Oti have in fact done so before on the German version of Strictly. She marked Oti just as hard if not more hardly than the rest of the judges, and funnily enough no-one blinked an eyelid. Judge her dancing credentials all you like (they are almost as good as Shirley's), but to immediately clamour for her removal just because she happens to be related to Oti is just silly. If anything, Oti is the loser here as Motsi will have no option but to mark her more harshly just to deal with all the people who assume she doesn't have any professional pride or integrity. Completely agree. However, I expect Oti will be given a celebrity who the producers know isn’t going to do well just to avoid the press crying ‘fix’, which is a shame really. Had a quick look around for info on the German version, and not a single issue mentioned about her judging her sister. Anyway, really happy with this choice. Was dreading another previous winner being announced as the new judge a la Alesha Dixon. Well done BBC.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 23:16:44 GMT
When Joanne was suggested as a judge regardless of what her commitments were, the consensus on here was that there would be an issue if Kevin was a dancer on the show. We now have the same issue with Motsi and Oti IMO.
Creepy sycophant Dan Wootton said on Lorraine last week that Oti had screen tested for the job and had failed and it was now "likely" that Anton would get the nod. I'm guessing this might have been when Motsi screen tested and he got half the story. Would the Beeb put two sisters up against each other for the job and would two siblings really go for the same job ( Miliband brothers excepted when the wrong one was chosen). Plus why move Oti from pro ranks to be a judge, you could have theoretically done it with any of the pros, there are much older pros than Oti who aren't such good dancers.
I don't find Oti particularly loud, she has a little high voice if anything IMO and I've always thought she has a lovely personality.
Motsi ticks all my boxes for being an ideal judge - proven dance background, previous judging experience and younger than the other judges to bring the average age down a bit again.
I just sadly see it being a no win situation having to judge her sibling as I would if it had been Karen judging Kevin, Janette judging Aljaz even if it was someone judging their own pro partner say Erin judging Anton.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 23:24:16 GMT
Also any thoughts on who'd make a good celeb contestant this year. With a load of actors leaving Corrie I'd like one of them to be on it. My personal choice would be Bhavna Limbachia who played Rana and was also Alia in Citizen Khan. She has links to the BBC having been in one of their most successful recent sitcoms and we don't have that many Asian contestants on Strictly. So it would tap into a different demographic and to see some Asian dance moves incorporated into a few of her routines if appropriate could be interesting.
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