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Post by johartuk on Feb 3, 2019 22:46:13 GMT
I thought the series was really well done. It held my interest from beginning to end, and it was good to see the characters 'fleshed out' a bit. Good acting performances all round and they managed to fit a lot in without making it feel overblown.
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Post by TallPaul on Feb 4, 2019 10:07:45 GMT
For me, the best bit of the six and a quarter hours was JVJ holding back the entire French army with nothing more than an old mattress. What a guy!
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Post by crowblack on Feb 4, 2019 10:49:38 GMT
Excellent episode. Mum, sniffing afterwards - "how can actors' parents bear seeing them die like that?"
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 4, 2019 11:56:27 GMT
He went down hill fast too didn’t he? One minute he was picking spuds out of the veg patch, next he was in bed about to croak.
No ghostly visitations either, I note.
I admit those words were in my head at the end:
You will live, Papa, you're going to live It's too soon, too soon to say goodbye!
Yes, Cosette, forbid me now to die I'll obey I will try.
On this page I write my last confession Read it well when I, at last, am sleeping It's the story Of one who turned from hating A man who only learned to love When you were in his keeping.
😭😭😭
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Post by alexandra on Feb 4, 2019 15:53:04 GMT
I mean I realise Paris wasn't as large then as it is now, but how fortunate/unfortunate that they kept bumping into each other like that all the way through, culminating in Thenardier just happening to be lurking in the same sewer (what are the chances) as Valjean. Unless I've misunderstood the story, which is more than possible as I kept losing concentration. West was very well cast as a ruffian made good, I thought. The kid was great too.
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Post by Deal J on Feb 4, 2019 17:37:05 GMT
“Les Coïncidences”
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Post by adrianics on Feb 4, 2019 20:50:06 GMT
Amazing and outstanding episode until the final 15 minutes, which were impossible to take seriously. My wife kept yelling "its been six weeks!"
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Post by crowblack on Feb 4, 2019 20:55:47 GMT
Isn't there a bit in the novel (earlier on) where his hair changes colour overnight? Looks it up - yes, but it's after the courthouse bit. Mum was complaining about his lack of grey throughout!
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Post by learfan on Feb 4, 2019 21:00:58 GMT
I thought it was pretty good, though not sure why Thenardier had such an all seeing role. Paris was a big place even back then. I have seen four film versions, they all focus on the same scenes, Valjean's feat of strength, the Bishop, Again saving the peasant with his strength etc Apparently the beeb did a longer adaptat6in the 1960s with Frank Finley, pity they could have shown that on bbc 4 as a counterpoint.
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Post by david on Feb 4, 2019 21:06:24 GMT
Just caught up with the final episode tonight? Dominic West really did win me over as JVJ over the 6 weeks. At first I wasn’t too sure about David Oyelowo’s portrayal as Javert, but over the series, but again, the character development during the episodes won me over in the end. The other cast members contributed equally as much to make a great series (the Thenardiers I thought were were brilliantly done with just the right amount of menace)
Just how bad was that wig that the young lad who played Gavroche had to wear? The wig department at the BBC should hang their heads in shame for that effort.
That final episode for me was the best of the series. The street battle scene was great but it was the aftermath that was totally heartbreaking as the camera panned across the dead bodies.
Overall, a really well done piece of drama by the BBC.
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Post by daisy24601 on Feb 4, 2019 21:38:01 GMT
He went down hill fast too didn’t he? One minute he was picking spuds out of the veg patch, next he was in bed about to croak. No ghostly visitations either, I note. I admit those words were in my head at the end: You will live, Papa, you're going to live It's too soon, too soon to say goodbye!
Yes, Cosette, forbid me now to die I'll obey I will try.
On this page I write my last confession Read it well when I, at last, am sleeping It's the story Of one who turned from hating A man who only learned to love When you were in his keeping.
😭😭😭 This was the biggest downfall of the series for me. He was completely fine when talking to Marius then in the space of a few weeks he's on death's door? We know it's coming but it all happened too quick. Up to that point I enjoyed the final episode, will miss this series. The biggest revelation for me is probably Enjolras, who in this I could actually see more as a real person, someone who could exist in this day and age with his values and world view, rather than the almost fantasy character of the musical (although I do like him).
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Post by adrianics on Feb 5, 2019 13:55:29 GMT
The first half of the episode, everything up to Javert's suicide, was quite outstanding. The falling of the barricade, particularly the execution of Enjolras and Grantiere, was heartbreaking, brutal and intense. Javert's suicide was unbearably poignant and acted superbly, as was Baron Pontmercy's delight at getting Marius back.
Then everything just kind of fell to sh*t. Marius barely reacted to finding out he was the only survivor of the battle then it was never brought up again, Valjean aged about 25 years in six weeks and was merrily hucking plants until the very second he saw Cossette, at which point he hilariously fell to his knees and said "I'm going to die soon", which is one of the most unintentionally hilarious lines I've ever heard. It also was far from clear to me where Valjean was or how Cossette knew he would be there, unless I missed something?
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 5, 2019 16:57:00 GMT
I agree with some of the negative comments on the final episode. As a whole I did enjoy the series but I would say the bits I got the most from are not in the musical as they were 'new' to me
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 5, 2019 18:51:20 GMT
You will live, Papa, you're going to live It's too soon, too soon to say goodbye!
Yes, Cosette, forbid me now to die I'll obey I will try.
On this page I write my last confession Read it well when I, at last, am sleeping It's the story Of one who turned from hating A man who only learned to love When you were in his keeping.
😭😭😭
Have these lyrics been changed over the years? I admit I last saw the show in 2014 but I could have sworn the last 4 lines then were: It's the story Of those who always loved you. Your mother gave her life for you And gave you to my keeping.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 5, 2019 18:54:55 GMT
Ooh I think you’re right DS!
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Post by daisy24601 on Feb 5, 2019 20:28:02 GMT
The first half of the episode, everything up to Javert's suicide, was quite outstanding. The falling of the barricade, particularly the execution of Enjolras and Grantiere, was heartbreaking, brutal and intense. Javert's suicide was unbearably poignant and acted superbly, as was Baron Pontmercy's delight at getting Marius back. Then everything just kind of fell to sh*t. Marius barely reacted to finding out he was the only survivor of the battle then it was never brought up again, Valjean aged about 25 years in six weeks and was merrily hucking plants until the very second he saw Cossette, at which point he hilariously fell to his knees and said "I'm going to die soon", which is one of the most unintentionally hilarious lines I've ever heard. It also was far from clear to me where Valjean was or how Cossette knew he would be there, unless I missed something? Agree with all of this. He was in Digne where he met the bishop so it makes sense he would go there but I don't know how Cosette knew this. I'm confused about how much she knows at that point.
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Post by beatrice on Feb 5, 2019 20:59:33 GMT
I know I'm soooo late to the party but I started this today - 2.5 episodes in and wow, it's really a lot harsher without music, isn't it? The Felix dude is seriously awful, and I physically could not make myself watch the teeth-pulling-scene. Nope!
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Post by peggs on Feb 5, 2019 21:07:36 GMT
Have just finished, see what you all mean about the six weeks, that vegetable patch must have been a real killer. I am now a little less baffled than after Russell Crowe fell into that weir though only slightly less so. So the ending, is pretty grim still then? Some class acting in this, Dominic West superb, loved DAvid Bradley and Adeel Akhtar and Olivia Coleman had a ball didn't they, thought David Oyelowo rather short changed with that writing. Oh yes and everyone in Paris most helpfully in the same place at the same time.
I mostly enjoyed this, i'm curious what reading the book would add but i'm almost certainly never going to actually do that.
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Post by beatrice on Feb 5, 2019 21:16:41 GMT
I mostly enjoyed this, i'm curious what reading the book would add but i'm almost certainly never going to actually do that. HAHA exactly this! I'll make do with the synopsis on Wikipedia for another couple of years....
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Post by beatrice on Feb 5, 2019 21:43:25 GMT
Also, Javert is AWFUL! Completely heartless and I really dislike him.
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Post by crowblack on Feb 18, 2019 14:20:07 GMT
I suspect Les Mis couldn't be more than six episodes for cost reasons and to an extent scheduling reasons. people like me who will watch 6 episodes, but may say no to a longer commitment? Andrew Davies' latest has just started filming, and it's an 8 episode adaptation of Austen's unfinished Sanditon for ITV (just 11 chapters, as Austen left it!). The BBC's Poldark gets 8 to 10 hours per series. Ah well.
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Post by tysilio2 on Feb 18, 2019 15:55:13 GMT
I suspect Les Mis couldn't be more than six episodes for cost reasons and to an extent scheduling reasons. people like me who will watch 6 episodes, but may say no to a longer commitment? Andrew Davies' latest has just started filming, and it's an 8 episode adaptation of Austen's unfinished Sanditon for ITV (just 11 chapters, as Austen left it!). The BBC's Poldark gets 8 to 10 hours per series. Ah well. I predict a confusing ending to the final episode....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2019 22:43:58 GMT
A little late to the party, but by god I wish I hadn’t bothered. I’m confused by the ending though... why did it end on the two kids begging?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2019 9:26:15 GMT
I took it to be that after everything, all the death, nothing really changes
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Post by richey on Feb 27, 2019 22:04:41 GMT
Finally watched the last episode. Thought the scene of the aftermath at the barricade was really good, with a nod to the turning of the barricades and outstretched arms from the musical. The sewer scene seemed to go on too long and the last five minutes too rushed. Otherwise pretty decent adaptation but was constantly resisting the urge to sing bits where they obviously fitted in
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