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Post by stevej678 on Feb 27, 2017 8:26:58 GMT
There are people, saddos, on here who use their negative default position as soon as a production is announced. Some of this comes from the dispiriting attitude that people adopt who intrinsically are Members of a self formed gang or clique. They fear any perceived outsider coming into the group from whatever angle, performer, writer, producer or new poster even. They will crush all innovation unless it comes from the gangs subconscious criteria of acceptability and peer group conformity, they hide in the shadows and assassinate from behind their barricade of anonymity. The theatre board equivalent of the road side bomb. There are also people on here who use their defensive default position as soon as a Gary Barlow production is announced. Some of this comes from the dispiriting attitude that people adopt who intrinsically are Members of a self formed gang or clique. They fear any perceived criticism coming into the group from whatever angle, performer, writer, producer or new poster even. They will crush all dissent and only accept feedback from the gangs subconscious criteria of adulation and peer group conformity, they hide in the shadows and insult from behind their barricade of anonymity. The theatre board equivalent of an internet troll. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2017 8:30:39 GMT
You are of course allowed to dislike the work of GB or anybody for that matter, it would just be polite and rational if people disliked it after they had seen it not before it has even got to the workshop stage. We've just had 8 weeks of people going on about it. Now we're supposed to erase all of that from our memories and sit quietly saying nothing until Gary and his team are ready for us? I don't think so  Apart from that, given the hype that surrounds GB and Take That demonstrated by the behaviour of the audience on Saturday night he has NOTHING to worry about. Mission accomplished. |
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Post by Mark on Feb 27, 2017 9:10:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 9:15:11 GMT
I confess I've not been watching the show at all, is one of those lads an 8 year old? A striking example of why they call them *boy* bands as opposed to grown-man bands, I guess!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 9:16:47 GMT
Good Lord. Is that Mickey Rooney? He hasn't aged a bit!
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 27, 2017 9:24:28 GMT
As I thought, GB says in the article that they are employing 3 understudies from the show.
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 27, 2017 10:12:10 GMT
I think the repeated negative attitude shown on the TV show to "musical theatre singing" or GB's constant remarks about not wanting "that kind" of show perfectly entitles anyone who actually loves musicals to have their own negative attitude about "The Band".
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 27, 2017 11:53:28 GMT
I think the repeated negative attitude shown on the TV show to "musical theatre singing" or GB's constant remarks about not wanting "that kind" of show perfectly entitles anyone who actually loves musicals to have their own negative attitude about "The Band". Completely agree - he was most disparaging about musical theatre throughout the series saying things such as "too musical theatre" and "I don't want that sound in this show at all". Yet, happily promoting THE MUSICAL The Girls at every opportunity. I simply did not understand where he was coming from. |
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Post by lewis on Feb 27, 2017 12:09:09 GMT
I think the repeated negative attitude shown on the TV show to "musical theatre singing" or GB's constant remarks about not wanting "that kind" of show perfectly entitles anyone who actually loves musicals to have their own negative attitude about "The Band". Completely agree - he was most disparaging about musical theatre throughout the series saying things such as "too musical theatre" and "I don't want that sound in this show at all". Yet, happily promoting THE MUSICAL The Girls at every opportunity. I simply did not understand where he was coming from. People keep saying things like this and I can't quite get my head around it. The Girls score is fairly standard contemporary musical theatre, and this is a jukebox musical of pop songs, where the people chosen will sing in the style of a pop group. With that in mind I think it's sensible that Gary Barlow wants to steer clear of a musical theatre sound. Just because that sound Isn't right for the band doesn't mean he hates it and can't like it in a different setting. It's all about context. The Band quite clearly isn't going to conform to a traditional musical theatre structure. Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen. |
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Post by johartuk on Feb 27, 2017 12:30:11 GMT
I think the repeated negative attitude shown on the TV show to "musical theatre singing" or GB's constant remarks about not wanting "that kind" of show perfectly entitles anyone who actually loves musicals to have their own negative attitude about "The Band". Completely agree - he was most disparaging about musical theatre throughout the series saying things such as "too musical theatre" and "I don't want that sound in this show at all". Yet, happily promoting THE MUSICAL The Girls at every opportunity. I simply did not understand where he was coming from. To be fair, knowing what we know now about the nature of F2F's role in The Band, what Gary said makes perfect sense. The boys are supposed to look and sound like a boyband, not musical theatre performers. The problem is that Gary was saying all that negative stuff about musical theatre before revealing details of the musical, when perhaps he should have made it clear from the outset why he didn't want people with traditional musical theatre voices. Then again, the last time the BBC were looking for a 'young, poppy' male lead for a musical and made that clear from the outset, the public chose a 25 year old musical theatre performer who looked more like Rufus Sewell than Justin Bieber - and the runner-up was a teenager, but with a classical voice! The 'young, blond, poppy' one came third (and had been in the bottom two on three occasions during the series)! Though, IMO, the public chose well - just not the person who ALW et al envisaged for the role! So perhaps keeping things vague in LIS wasn't such a bad idea!  Had Gary said he wanted 'poppy' singers, he might have ended up with a boyband made up of boys who sounded like they should have been manning the barricade in Les Mis! |
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Post by danb on Feb 27, 2017 12:33:26 GMT
Completely agree - he was most disparaging about musical theatre throughout the series saying things such as "too musical theatre" and "I don't want that sound in this show at all". Yet, happily promoting THE MUSICAL The Girls at every opportunity. I simply did not understand where he was coming from. People keep saying things like this and I can't quite get my head around it. The Girls score is fairly standard contemporary musical theatre, and this is a jukebox musical of pop songs, where the people chosen will sing in the style of a pop group. With that in mind I think it's sensible that Gary Barlow wants to steer clear of a musical theatre sound. Just because that sound Isn't right for the band doesn't mean he hates it and can't like it in a different setting. It's all about context. The Band quite clearly isn't going to conform to a traditional musical theatre structure. Whether that's a good or bad thing remains to be seen. You wouldn't deny people a good reactionary rant would you? This appears to be the home of it these days. People that like something. People that don't like something. The reason why they like it. The reason why they don't like it. "You must be deficient in some way not to have the same opinion as me" "No, you must be" "but, because" "yeah but". Time for a respect referendum methinks. |
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Post by infofreako on Feb 27, 2017 12:44:19 GMT
The musical theatre versus contemporary pop thing is an interesting debate in this. Contemporary pop acts will perform usually 3 nights on 1 night off for 2-3 weeks where the requirement for these performers will be 8 shows in 6 days then 1 night off for months on end.
That's a big difference and even if Barlow doesn't want the musical theatre sound he needs musical theatre voices that can cope with the strains of that schedule.
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Post by steve10086 on Feb 27, 2017 15:06:40 GMT
Actually watching the final of Let It Shine now, and it's more musical theatre friendly than the audition rounds had been.
Still finding the whole process, and the actual place the boys will have in the stage show, to be rather strange.
Ooh, the Les Mis medley was a little all over the place (the backup singers seemed out of time), but wow that gave me goosebumps!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 15:58:12 GMT
Tickets don't go on sale til April?! What's the point!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 27, 2017 15:58:39 GMT
One minute it's a musical, next minute it's not a musical. They just switch it round at will. It's a load of old cobblers.
As for 8 shows a week, that band will be plagued with illness and injury. That one who looks about 8 couldn't even get through Saturday without crying after every number. No mettle! I'd send the lot of them to boot camp with Bonnie Langford for a couple of weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 16:51:04 GMT
One minute it's a musical, next minute it's not a musical. They just switch it round at will. It's a load of old cobblers. As for 8 shows a week, that band will be plagued with illness and injury. That one who looks about 8 couldn't even get through Saturday without crying after every number. No mettle! I'd send the lot of them to boot camp with Bonnie Langford for a couple of weeks. Can you put me forward for this as well please! I would happily spend a few weeks with Dame Langford!
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Post by bellboard27 on Feb 27, 2017 16:54:03 GMT
It's a load of old cobblers. Aren't you getting confused with Hobson's Choice? |
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Post by shady23 on Feb 27, 2017 17:05:14 GMT
Who the hell is going to see a musical about 16 yr old girls? Other than it being about 16 yr old boys I can't think of anything more boring. I'm assuming they r trying to go for the teenage audience but forgot GB/TT are/is so crushingly uncool. I bet my left bollock it doesn't go into west end and quietly dies a death Not at all, they're going for the middle age ladies market and below. As a female who was once 16 (!) I spent most of that year obsessing about a boyband. Ask any 16 year old girl and they will say the same. If it isn't a boy band it's a bloke off the telly, an actor, someone down the road etc. We have all been there. It's actually quite a good idea that, if executed well, could do well. Much better than if those largely charisma free five to five boys were leading it... The only thing that puts me off is the audience. The bad behaviour at a show thread is going to be swamped! |
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Post by shady23 on Feb 27, 2017 17:11:06 GMT
Tickets don't go on sale til April?! What's the point! They should have gone on sale the very next day. A bizarre decision. |
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Post by shady23 on Feb 27, 2017 17:15:16 GMT
Faye Christall has also been cast, as "Young Rachel"
They had a cast night out at the final!
Sounds very much like a coming of age story then.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Feb 27, 2017 17:33:40 GMT
As a female who was once 16 (!) I spent most of that year obsessing about a boyband. Ask any 16 year old girl and they will say the same. If it isn't a boy band it's a bloke off the telly, an actor, someone down the road etc. We have all been there. I'm still chasing Donny Osmond willy nilly around the country ... and other countries, actually. I can honestly say I wouldn't have gone to New York if Donny hadn't been at BB Kings, or Las Vegas numerous times if he and that pesky sister of his weren't always there. |
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Post by theatremadness on Feb 27, 2017 17:40:22 GMT
Five To Five won't even have any speaking lines in the show according to What's On Stage, no wonder acting took a back seat!!
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Post by shady23 on Feb 27, 2017 17:43:53 GMT
As a female who was once 16 (!) I spent most of that year obsessing about a boyband. Ask any 16 year old girl and they will say the same. If it isn't a boy band it's a bloke off the telly, an actor, someone down the road etc. We have all been there. I'm still chasing Donny Osmond willy nilly around the country ... and other countries, actually. I can honestly say I wouldn't have gone to New York if Donny hadn't been at BB Kings, or Las Vegas numerous times if he and that pesky sister of his weren't always there. I am still the same with Robbie Williams 😍 |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 18:14:50 GMT
Five To Five won't even have any speaking lines in the show according to What's On Stage, no wonder acting took a back seat!! So will the girls who act not sing then? |
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Post by theatreliker on Feb 27, 2017 18:16:32 GMT
Well having had the plot concept explained to me a couple of times and having had a good chuckle at it, I can say I'm glad it's not coming to a theatre that near me. I imagine it will do quite well though, I would like David Pugh and Daffyd Rogers to go back to producing new plays for a bit though.
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Had Gary said he wanted 'poppy' singers, he might have ended up with a boyband made up of boys who sounded like they should have been manning the barricade in Les Mis!
