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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 20, 2019 19:57:58 GMT
We have a full on discussion about West End Ticket prices and how much it costs for people not in London to see things in London.
So which of you Londoners are travelling outside of London to see theatre? Andiif you are what are you paying for tickets and travel?
Do you even do this?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:12:02 GMT
As a theatre data nerd and an audiences nerd I am very intereste in this (albeit non scientific) investiation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 20:15:41 GMT
Occasionally to Chichester, Birmingham or Southampton, but otherwise not really beyond the suburbs of London unless it's up to Edinburgh for the Fringe.
When I do go it's invariably for something I booked ages in advance and on an Advance train ticket for Scotland - only way to even occasionally afford first class for that long journey. I've paid as little as £20 for an advance ticket in the past (£35 for first class). For Chichester and Southampton an off-peak day return is usually no cheaper booked in advance.
But there's plenty in Central London that I miss out on as well despite living within the travel zones.
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Post by kimbahorel on Feb 20, 2019 20:18:08 GMT
I have only done it because an actor I liked was in a touring show. But I had to get coaches and my tickets averaged £40 plus between £20 and £28 I paid for coaches each time. I do Les Mis a lot and at best pay £27.50 for my ticket on occassion £45 band ticket. When he was in Mis for the amount I paid in total for 9 trips could have see Mis 18 times. But... I wouldn't generally do it because I am on a position where I have to travel to the venue first to buy tickets in cash at the box office. And getting only coaches makes locations without a decent service impossible to go to.
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Post by joem on Feb 20, 2019 20:26:06 GMT
Not living in London I usually only go to regional theatres when I'm travelling somewhere else in UK but I have sometimes made arrangements to go specifically to a play outside London. I don't know of any good sites which list all theatre outside London though, so this tends to happen when I have somehow heard in advance of a production I might interested in.
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Post by harlow on Feb 20, 2019 20:36:57 GMT
I do travel to see shows I really want to- usually to Bath, Bristol, Brighton, Oxford, Cambridge, Chichester, Dublin and Edinburgh (actually hadn't realised how much I do it!). I am in a position where I do travel with work so I can often go to theatres near where I may be working in which case I don't pay for the travel as it's paid for, so often if it's a touring production that's going to London it is often cheaper in other cities. I definitely wouldn't do it as often if I had to pay for all the travel. I do go also outside of the UK - usually though it's for opera or ballet and not theatre so it's usually France, Italy, Germany or Austria.
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Post by bobbybaby on Feb 20, 2019 20:41:46 GMT
I live fairly centrally in London and sometimes go to Leicester Curve ( and the old Haymarket back in the day), Birmingham to the Hippodrome mainly for Birmingham Royal Ballet, Coventry - (Belgrade 2 occasionally), Leeds to WYP occasionally, Chichester and sometimes I even go to Islington. Mainly tickets are about the £45 mark and nowadays try and book in advance for the train, but back in the day a walk up day return was affordable. Train fares usually about £30ish. Usual attraction is the show more than artist. I also have a friend in Kent who I go to Am Dram with at the Oast Theatre in Tonbridge - Train, ticket and cab usually about £35. Islington's an oyster card and a cheeky Nando's !!
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Post by dontdreamit on Feb 20, 2019 20:41:59 GMT
I’ve talked about this before, but we go out of London to see whatever Jason Donovan does. Where possible we will do it in a day trip on a Saturday, see a matinee and come back. We train most of the time now and don’t coach any more, but there are times we’ve done a matinee and evening and taken the overnight coach back to London. I’m just too old and too immobile these days to do that!
But other than JD, I don’t tend to do out of London. I will however make an exception for Bat Out Of Hell if it does ever tour because I bloody love that show (as does the whole family now).
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Post by n1david on Feb 20, 2019 20:45:08 GMT
I do travel to theatres outside London, infrequently but in the last couple of years I've been to Chichester, Stratford, Nottingham, Sheffield, Cardiff, Abertillery and Leeds for specific shows. I also go to the Edinburgh Festival every year and go back to Glasgow a couple of times a year where I discovered my liking for live theatre as a student.
I usually drive and turn it into a few days away, but I'm lucky in that as a retiree I've got the time to spare and can spend 2-3 days on a trip (I usually travel midweek). Ticket prices are generally cheaper outside London and I'll usually stay in a Premier Inn or Travelodge unless there's a good reason to do something more upmarket.
I'd go more often but I tend to assess if something is likely to transfer and the opportunity to turn it into more than a theatre trip. For example, It does cost money to do a night in Sheffield and if it's a show I think will transfer then I might take the gamble that I can see it close at hand rather than organising a specific trip. (And I do recognise the irony about me complaining about going outside London given the discussion in the ticket prices thread!) I like all forms of theatre and as I say my early experience was all in Glasgow, so I do like to get out of the London bubble every so often. The main issue is finding somewhere decent to eat after the show (ducks and runs...)
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Post by NeilVHughes on Feb 20, 2019 20:46:03 GMT
For variety will make an effort to get out of London at least a few times a year with the caveat that the play is unlikely to transfer to London.
Last year went to - Manchester Royal Exchange x3 - Theatre Royal Bath x4 - Nottingham Playhouse x1 - Chichester x1 - Watermill Newbury x1
Not sure it counts, always prefer to see the RSC at Stratford Upon Avon and usually there 4 times a year seeing at least two productions each time.
If you book the train ticket early enough and with tickets about half those of a West End Theatre the cost is equivalent to a mid priced West End ticket with the advantage of a welcome change of scenery.
Not sure if it is because I am more choosy, some of the best plays I saw last year were outside of London - Happy Days and Salesman in Manchester - The Price and In Praise of Love in Bath - Madness of George III in Nottingham - Copenhagen in Chichester
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Post by couldileaveyou on Feb 20, 2019 20:54:56 GMT
I went to Chichester once, but most of the times I can't even be arsed to go to Lyric Hammersmith
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Post by sophie92 on Feb 20, 2019 21:10:08 GMT
Not technically a Londoner (live just outside but work in London) and I do occasionally travel for theatre, but nowhere near as much as I’d like. Been to Chichester, Canterbury, Leicester and Cardiff a couple of times each, and have been to shows in Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds and Colchester, but there’s so much I’d like to get to that I just don’t manage to fit in because I essentially get restricted to Saturday matinees as I prefer not to stay overnight.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Feb 20, 2019 21:55:57 GMT
I do, but generally only for mates' shows, or to theatres I have a relationship with. Or if the play or cast is really something special. The Midlands are about as far as I'll go though, sorry Manchester!
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Feb 21, 2019 0:44:43 GMT
I live in Kent so not a Londoner but I travel wherever I need to for the musicals I want to see. Majority by public transport as I don't drive. Wife does but still works while I'm long retired!
My favourite venues outside London are Crucible Sheffield, Curve Leicester, Festival Theatre Chichester, Wales Millennium Centre Cardiff and Kilworth House near Lutterworth.
Touring productions usually visit at least one out of the Orchard Theatre Dartford, Churchill Theatre Bromley or New Wimbledon Theatre and I book whichever gets the show first. I also go to the Hippodrome in Bristol and and the New Victoria Woking as they often have cheap senior weekday matinees.
Been as far as Devon, Cheshire and Yorkshire to see amateur musicals. I try to avoid staying away so in cases when I couldn't get home after an evening show I book a Saturday, or if there is one a weekday, matinee. I'm seeing Local Hero at a Wednesday matinee in Edinburgh in April which I initially planned as a day trip but the arrival time was a bit too tight so now going the previous day, seeing an amateur Sweet Charity on the Tuesday evening and staying at a Premier Inn overnight.
I enjoy travelling by train and coach and have a degree of specialist knowledge of rail ticketing so usually get the lowest possible prices without making journeys too long or connections too tight.
I'm generally happy with the prices I pay for tickets; some amateur shows for what they charge and the quality they achieve are fantastic VFM.
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Post by showgirl on Feb 21, 2019 4:54:57 GMT
Absolutely and I love doing so and aim to do more. Day trips get me to Bath, Chichester, Eastbourne, Guildford, Salisbury, Southampton, Watford and so on, but I have also done overnight/weekend stays for some of those and towns which are more distant from me, eg Bristol, Cardiff, Manchester.
I had a couple of one-night stays in Stratford-On-Avon last year and really enjoyed those so hope to return this year; I also did a long weekend in York in the autumn when I saw plays/opera in Leeds, Scarborough, Sheffield and York itself.
Coming up soon I have day trips to Birmingham and Salisbury. When I go away for a whole week I try to fit in as much theatre in the area as possible and that influences my choice of location and date - though frustratingly you can never see everything, no matter how hard you try and two of my current "must-see" productions are visiting my home area while I'm in Yorkshire - damn!
It's really refreshing to escape from London (I'd happily avoid the place but for all the theatre) and to visit new places and, in particular, theatres I frequently read about but have never before seen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 9:57:01 GMT
I too am not technically a Londoner but close enough to count for theatre-going purposes. I will travel for things I want to see though; I'm a semi-regular visitor to Bristol, I used to go to Stratford all the time, Oxford has proven itself worryingly and usefully accessible so I'll definitely go there more, and although I don't really like how long it takes to get to Manchester, I will make the journey sometimes. (I've also been known to go to New York and Amsterdam to see shows but as I plan holidays around those, they don't necessarily count as *just* travelling for regional theatre. And, in fairness, last time I went to Manchester, it was the same weekend as a family wedding in Liverpool so really just a short train ride at that point.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 10:16:03 GMT
No. Theatre comes to me.
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Post by dippy on Feb 21, 2019 10:25:16 GMT
I do, if there's something I want to see that is touring and not coming into London, or it's just in another town then I will go there. I usually go the cheapest way possible which does often involve a bus. The problem with going out of London to see a show and wanting to get back that day is that public transport doesn't work well in that direction at those times of day. You can get out of London till pretty late but not the other way round (which is why sometimes I end up driving). A good theatrical day out once was coach to Sheffield, matinee, train to Leeds, evening show, overnight coach back to London. Since you're asking about prices that was £10 to Sheffield, Leeds to London £11, train between £4.50. The tickets I think were actually slightly more expensive than I would normally pay for in London but that's because there you can often get deals for cheap front of stall seats whereas if you want to sit near the front outside London sometimes you do have to pay that bit more.
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Post by jaqs on Feb 21, 2019 11:58:33 GMT
Chichester on occasion. When I lived in south london I would go to wimbledon regularly as atg cards had great early week offers. Have been as far as Hull for panto. Went to Manchester for the Ghost out of town tryout and Leeds and Manchester for tours when actors I wanted to see took roles for only part of a run. Liverpool for arena tours too as it tends to work out cheapest for train/hotel.
To be honest since I moved to east london, I go to a lot fewer fringe venues than I used to, as can't be bothered with the travel home after.
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Post by winonaforever on Feb 21, 2019 13:32:22 GMT
Only to see friends on tour (and then I try to go to a show as close to London as possible!)
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Post by winonaforever on Feb 21, 2019 13:49:24 GMT
Just to turn it around a little, there's also the consideration that it took as long for me to get to Hornchurch on the tube as it would to get to Birmingham by car or rail. So that can be factored in, I think. Yes it feels like a real trek to get to the Queens in Hornchurch (or the Cliffs Pavilion, or Palace Westcliff) Although they're relatively near London it takes AGES to get there.
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Post by showgirl on Feb 21, 2019 14:59:02 GMT
Yes, I don't live in London yet it's easier to reach the centre and parts of the outskirts than some suburbs or nearby towns, eg Bromley, Hornchurch, Southend. I'm often tempted by productions/reviews but defeated once I check the logistics.
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 21, 2019 15:27:58 GMT
I am very lucky that I work in public transportation so I get free and greatly reduced rail travel all over the country and I make the most of by benefit.
In the subsidised houses you can get some terrific £10 seats, coupled with my benefit it makes it worth while.
I frequently go to Chichester, Bath, Oxford Playhouse, Royal Exchange Manchester and Cambridge Arts Theatre, sometime Leicester Curve and Sheffield Crucible. I have booked hotels and done a mini tour of the north on time off, at Christmas I try and see the Christmas musicals in Leicester Curve, Sheffield Crucible and Manchester theatres and doing my very best to dodge those pesky pantomimes.
A couple of weeks ago I went to Birmingham Rep to see Blue/Orange and tomorrow going to the Alexander for the first time to see Glenhgarry Glen Ross. Going to go up to Stratford Upon Avon to see As You Like It and The Boy in a dress.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 22, 2019 14:25:15 GMT
Impressive amount of travelling going on!
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Post by n1david on Feb 22, 2019 14:59:57 GMT
...so I think we can say that the answer to the original question is “Yes.”
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