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Post by sprampster on Feb 9, 2019 0:00:08 GMT
Remember the days when Mr Mack used to take a risk and put on a new musical in one of the biggest houses in the west end ?? Anyone else miss those days ??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 0:13:58 GMT
Isn't that what &Juliet are doing??
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Post by mrbarnaby on Feb 9, 2019 6:33:30 GMT
He isn’t producing that.
It’s sad that someone with his money and resources has actively decided not to produce new writing.
Instead he’s content to trundle our endless versions of dusty old shows.
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Post by danb on Feb 9, 2019 7:09:28 GMT
...like ‘Hamilton’? I know it’s co-produced and was pretty much a lock for a sure fire hit, but he still chucked a bucketload of cash at the Vic Palace and ‘Ham’ to make a success of a new musical in London. Admittedly it would be great if he’d fund an enterprise like The Other Palace that actively champions new writing, but is there room for two of them in London anyway?
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 9, 2019 9:07:09 GMT
I got very excited thinking this thread was all about a new production. Surely this is ripe for a revival?
Does this thread need a different title?
Cam Mack has said he is slowing down, enjoying semi retirement. if he is doing that then he can't be producing Follies, Moby Dick and Witches give the guy some credit as the West End would be worse off without him. I guess his semi retirement consists of keeping existing productions going?
Where are the new Hal Prince's and Cam Macks that what I want to know
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 9, 2019 9:22:57 GMT
Perhaps sprampster could let us know if he wants to discuss Witches of Eastwick, Cameron Mackintosh or the absence of new work in the West End and we can work back to a title change from there? 🙂 Not the classic way of doing things, granted, but a change is as good as a rest!
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Post by danb on Feb 9, 2019 9:40:15 GMT
Just label it ‘stuff’.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 11:31:31 GMT
It’s sad that someone with his money and resources has actively decided not to produce new writing. Instead he’s content to trundle our endless versions of dusty old shows. Incorrect. Quietly, underneath the umbrella of CAMERON MACKINTOSH LTD sits The Mackintosh Foundation - a charity he does not need to shout about, actively funding new musical and theatrical development (amongst other deserving causes), supporting groups such as the National Student Drama Festival etc. www.fundingforall.org.uk/funds/the-mackintosh-foundation/Also, run under the initiative of the Musical Theatre Network is the Cameron Mackintosh Resident Composer scheme - again supporting the development of new musicals and theatre on an annual basis. www.musicaltheatrenetwork.com/what-we-do/resident-composers-scheme/Productions from these networks have been mounted and provided platform for further development. There are other outlets of support - financial and otherwise - that Cameron Mackintosh has been instrumental in. E.G. www.thestage.co.uk/news/2016/cameron-mackintosh-funds-stiles-and-drewe-musical-theatre-writing-award/I think the issue is not that CM is complacently producing "dusty old shows" to satisfy his own pleasure but the business of theatre in the West End has changed substantially over the last few decades as we see an American invasion - and demand for American Mega-Hits increases again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 11:33:03 GMT
Perhaps sprampster could let us know if he wants to discuss Witches of Eastwick, Cameron Mackintosh or the absence of new work in the West End and we can work back to a title change from there? 🙂 Not the classic way of doing things, granted, but a change is as good as a rest! Its quite a cute approach. Lure people in with the hope of talking about an old show and instead engage them in some intelligent discussion about new musical development or the lack thereof.
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Post by sprampster on Feb 9, 2019 14:10:15 GMT
Thanks Burly bear !! It seems to have worked
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Post by Jon on Feb 9, 2019 14:21:04 GMT
The Witches of Eastwick wasn’t a hit and was moved for the more successful My Fair Lady. Along with Betty Blue Eyes, I’m not surprised he decided to play it safe
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 9, 2019 14:33:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 15:36:00 GMT
I saw the tour with marti pellow and enjoyed it for what it was but found it quite forgettable. The main thing that sticks in my mind is I thought Marti was excellent and was far and away his best performance.
Regarding Cameron, although I have lost respect for him over Les Miserables, in fairness it's been a while since a gamble of his paid off. Hair and Betty Blue Eyes flopped, Miss Saigon revival didn't last as long as planned. Really Avenue Q was his last 'risk' that paid off and even that had a shakey start and a modest success. Even Mary Poppins first time around under performed compared to expectations.
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