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Post by Mr Snow on Jan 18, 2019 11:29:04 GMT
So the time has come to reconfigure the house after 25 years of living here.
We are not tidy. We have a loft AND a basement full ...
1000+ books (minded to keep the factual but use Kindle for re reads) 1000+ CD's (these get the most use) 700+ Programmes ( I still buy a programme on nearly every visit) DVD's Pictures Photographs
50% of my clothes will be at a Charity Shop this weekend.
I haven't really engaged with iTunes or Spotify. Mrs Snow uses Netflix!
At some point in next 10 years we will downsize, but right now we're converting space for an office/man cave, and possibly a "library". In the short term this means putting everything in boxes to make space.
But really whats the point?
Who has enjoyed the benefit of a similar cull of all the other ....clutter/memories?
Any regrets?
Interested in others experiences.
(PS this is a stream of consciousness post! so apologies if if makes no sense to others. I do realise there are worse problems to have.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 11:46:35 GMT
We had to move house last year, so took advantage of the opportunity to have a thorough cull on the way. We went to the dump every Sunday for two months in the same way other people go to church, and our nearest charity shop (helpfully open on Sundays!) stopped letting us donate stuff after a while. Extremely few regrets tbh. I disposed of a dress that had a hole in it then spotted someone else wearing the same one out in public a few months later and felt a pang for mine, but then I've not gone on eBay or anything to see if it's available for repurchase, so I clearly can't actually be that bothered.
I still haven't gone through all my theatre programmes fom years gone by though. It should be an easy enough job, I've got some good storage boxes that are full of leaflets and things that can absolutely be chucked out, and then the best programmes that I definitely want to keep should fit in them neatly, but I'm still working through culling books so it'll be a few months more before I'm ready to tackle *that* job!
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Post by missthelma on Jan 18, 2019 12:00:48 GMT
I am a regular de-clutterer, I recently got rid of all my photographs and scanned them all on to a hard drive. I've also digitized all my CD's, Vinyl and cassettes (remember them). I do keep some CD's on shelves but almost never play them, they are just a dust trap and it's really only for my benefit as nobody else cares a jot about my complete Nancy Wilson collection. Books I have always had a habit of loaning out so there's only a few in my bookcase but am not much of a re-reader so again dust traps except the odd reference type book.
I have had the horrible experience of clearing out an aunt and uncle's house after they died and then my mother's home and it's very sobering as you see all the stuff that meant so much to others which can be virtually meaningless to you. And of course you probably don't have the same tastes so don't really want that shire horse picture. It's made me very aware of what I keep as someone will have to do it for me one day.
However I hugely regret purging my collection of programmes a few years ago, I kept none. All of my 80's 90's and early 2000's gone. Bizarrely I did keep about ten Playbills from that time. Of course I've built up more since 'the purge' and I do return to them quite often. I did have a thought of scanning them all to clear space but that's quite a big task!
PS Having been burnt a couple of times with losing data, I have two identical 2 TB hard drives on which everything is backed up, plus a pen stick back up for the really special stuff!
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Post by Mr Snow on Jan 18, 2019 13:32:50 GMT
I have had the horrible experience of clearing out an aunt and uncle's house after they died and then my mother's home and it's very sobering as you see all the stuff that meant so much to others which can be virtually meaningless to you. And of course you probably don't have the same tastes so don't really want that shire horse picture. It's made me very aware of what I keep as someone will have to do it for me one day. |Yes this has provided us with motivation. Have helped clear two houses last year, don't want to leave THAT for our daughter.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 18, 2019 13:53:25 GMT
There’s a show on Netflix called Tidying Up. Not with Ulla Inga Hanson Benson Yansen Tallen Hallen Swaden Swanson Bloom, but with Marie Kondo. Its the Japanese approach to tidying. Before you chuck your clothes out you have to thank them. And you’re only allowed to keep things that ‘spark joy’. It’s all very zen.
And if you can’t be bothered with all that, go to the British Heart Foundation website, order 20 donation bags, fill them and then ring up for them to be collected. Couldn’t be easier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 13:54:59 GMT
I honestly thought this thread was going to be about Marie Kondo when I saw the subject, I was all ready to come in swinging with a "she isn't saying you have to get rid of all your books, stop misrepresenting her!".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 14:36:43 GMT
I made the mistake of having a junk room. Never have a junk room. Come the time I needed to get my central heating replaced I had to take a week off work just to clear that one room, and I've no idea how many trips I made to the council recycling centre. It's not even as if it's a large room: it's nominally a bedroom but if you put a double bed in it there wouldn't be much room for anything else.
There are a couple of books that I regret throwing out, and a few that I could probably have rid myself of in their place, but for the most part I don't even remember what it was I junked. And now I have a nice home office that looks out on to ... well, on to the neighbour's wall, roof and chimney a couple of metres away. But the old brickwork and tiles look lovely in the morning sun and I get to see the crows and wood pigeons hopping around on the gutter so it was well worth it.
I still need to consider discarding my collection of programmes and souvenir brochures. I haven't looked at most of them since I got them, but it's hard to get past the knowledge that I could look at them if I wanted.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 18, 2019 16:09:53 GMT
Can you pay someone to do it for you? I've got so much tatt but just can't be motovated to do it myself. Love the idea of scanning the photos etc. I even bought a USB turntable 2 years to convert my vinyl and so far I have done Shirley McLaine live and Earth Wind and Fire. So I've worked out.if.I do an average of 1 a year I will.finish when I'm 123 years old
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Post by TallPaul on Jan 18, 2019 16:47:33 GMT
Yes, you can pay someone. They even have a professional body, to ensure standards are maintained. One of the phone-in 'experts' on my local radio station is a member.
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Post by lynette on Jan 18, 2019 16:57:27 GMT
You can get people to come round and help you but it costs. If you take it steadily, then you should be able to declutter yourself. Marie Kondo recommends an extreme method like putting all your clothes on the bed, all of them and going through each item but this is scary. Other methods have different approaches. Just take shirts or trousers say or shoes and don’t try to do it all at once. Of course, clothes are easy compared to what Kondo calls All the rest of your stuff!
We downsized four years ago and used the charity shop collection service. Most of them do this now and our hospice also has a furniture shop so you can get rid of big stuff too. But we also find that freecylce is brilliant. People have to collect and take item as it is. This is good for electricals because charity shops don’t take them. So old CD players, even broken printers. Your rubbish is someone else's treasure! We managed to get rid of roof tiles through freecycle And of course you can get something yourself from it.
We are still decluttering. Recently had a boost after reading a declutter book and then watching the Kondo progs which are really another kind of human drama programme. She is a therapist. But I do feel unburdened and smug. You should see my underwear drawers! Yeah, and the programmes actually kickstarted OH and daughter into a good sort out of clothes and papers. So,I would say that decluttering is good for you on the whole but can be stressful so start small, just one corner of a room or one kind of item at a time if you feel stressed. And maybe watch the Kondo progs, if only to marvel at her commercial success.
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Post by lynette on Jan 18, 2019 17:00:47 GMT
Ps no one wanted the theatre programmes except a man who worked in French's theatre book shop. I called round everywhere but no takers. Took most of them to charity shop in the end. And we got rid of loads of books and try now to keep to rule of one in and one out.
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Post by nick on Jan 18, 2019 17:13:03 GMT
I highly recommend it. We gathered tat for years until we needed our roof replaced last so needed the attic emptied. We're also of an age where we are more aware of the time left.
I think "And you’re only allowed to keep things that ‘spark joy" is a great motto. The great thing has been that the things we genuinely love are now easily accessible instead of hiding amongst a pile of tat.
We've used various approaches:
1/ music, DVDs etc are now digitised and we have Spotify plus a couple of Alexas. Ditto with books although we have plenty of vintage and non-fiction left. I've kept some vinyl and 78s as well 'cos I love setting them up and playing them.
2/ We got a skip for the roof and a large pile of stuff went into it.
3/ We've used charity shops to get rid of the tat that still has some life in it but wasn't worth selling.
4/ I used Ziffit to get rid of books and DVDs that had some value. It was so easy to do with a smart phone.
5/ We had a garden sale for the tat with a small value. Great fun - so much so I'm planning on arranging for the whole street to do one in the spring.
6/ I have a pile of vintage stuff that will either go on eBay or to the Classic Car Boot fair that's held at King's Cross regularly (Because we have a 1966 Morris Traveller). Again the Boot Fair is great fun and a chance for celeb spotting - Michael Barrymore bought a pair of 1930s swimming trunks from me.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 18, 2019 20:16:22 GMT
BHF take electrical too.
Don’t forget Music Magpie for CD’s, DVD’s Games etc. You will get only pennies apart from the odd unexpected gem. I had an ancient Sharon Redd album that they paid about £9 for which was more than the others put together. They probably sold it for £30. It’s very satisfying scanning the barcodes on your stuff and seeing the pennies add up. Free collection again, allyou need is a box. Spend the proceeds on gin.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 22:11:00 GMT
I’m a regular de-clutterer. I also sorted most of my childhood stuff when Mum had the loft insulated and honestly haven’t missed anything I threw out (got a bit on eBay for a few 80s toys as well)
I currently have one “Cupboard of doom” which contains theatre programmes, a few boxes of sentimental crap like cards and whatnot and various things like ornaments that were gifts or souvenirs I don’t want to throw out but have nowhere to put currently.
The books thing, I have a morbid fear of turning into a crazy book lady after experiencing my friend’s parents house that ...well anyone who has been to The Strand in New York? It’s like if that went feral. But in all seriousness, I only keep about 20% of the books I read anymore, because I know very few I’ll revisit, and I like to think of giving them to charity shops or friends as setting them free for others to enjoy and do the same...And anyway it’s just paper and glue.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 18, 2019 22:17:04 GMT
Just give books away. It’s a no brainer. Pass them on. Lovely covers, great. Let other people see the lovely covers. If you’re not going to read it again (which you’re not), pass it on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 23:00:19 GMT
Just give books away. It’s a no brainer. Pass them on. Lovely covers, great. Let other people see the lovely covers. If you’re not going to read it again (which you’re not), pass it on. On that note the same friend as above got really angry (to the point she rang them up) that BHF put a sticker on their books suggesting people return them to the charity shop when they were read... And I agree. I keep a handful of novels that I do re-read, and a variety of “coffee table” books. And in my case books for work (either teaching or research) but run of the mill novels and non fiction are a revolving door.
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 19, 2019 11:21:52 GMT
Ulla Inga Hanson Benson Yansen Tallen Hallen Swaden Swanson Bloom Oh that's made me laugh. I don't like the sound of this Kondo, who is evidently known to you all. We moved in 2017 and as others have said, used that as the chance to cull a load of stuff. But I do like a bit of clutter. To quote from Daniel Kitson's Keep currently at the BAC, the level of clutter I like is "not harrowing documentary proportions, but the opposite of the houses at the end of Grand Designs which make you think, where's all your stuff you f***ing psycho?" Also, the house we moved to is one which kind of benefits from some clutter.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 19, 2019 11:53:14 GMT
I saw something on tv the other day with this mad woman getting people to talk to their clothes and folding t shirts and then store them standing up. Is this who is being referred to?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 19, 2019 12:13:50 GMT
That’s her, yes.
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Post by nick on Jan 19, 2019 12:16:15 GMT
Do we need photos? I reckon my 'decluttered' might still be someone else's idea of cluttered. Istill have stuff, just a lot less stuff than I used to have.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 19, 2019 12:25:07 GMT
Well I have started. Threw away some wire coathangers a few old t shirts then I got distracted when I found a box of old photos and spent the rest of the morning looking at them. Well as they say. Baby steps!!!
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 19, 2019 12:38:03 GMT
I got distracted when I found a box of old photos and spent the rest of the morning looking at them. Hahaha! That's me. Also, kind of ironically when doing book culls, I've started reading some of the books I'm meant to be clearing out because I've never read them, and start thinking "This is quite good isn't it." Threw away a few old t shirts I hope you spoke kindly to them and apologised first.
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Post by CG on the loose on Jan 19, 2019 14:39:41 GMT
Well I have started. Threw away some wire coathangers a few old t shirts then I got distracted when I found a box of old photos and spent the rest of the morning looking at them. Well as they say. Baby steps!!! That always happens to me. I'm trying to do one 'thing' a day - a drawer, a cupboard, a shelf. I'm making headway slowly. Some great tips on this thread - thanks especially to the Bear, BHF bags on the way and Music Magpie under investigation.
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Post by nick on Jan 19, 2019 15:29:10 GMT
I've been thinking about this on and off today and I've realised that I haven't really decluttered - all I've done is move things onto electronic storage - scanned photos, DVDs, music. And I've now got MORE magazines as I've downloaded scanned versions of out of copyright fashion mags from the 20th Century as well as old comics. It just doesn't take up much space any more.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 19, 2019 17:21:26 GMT
I got distracted when I found a box of old photos and spent the rest of the morning looking at them. Hahaha! That's me. Also, kind of ironically when doing book culls, I've started reading some of the books I'm meant to be clearing out because I've never read them, and start thinking "This is quite good isn't it." Threw away a few old t shirts I hope you spoke kindly to them and apologised first. No I said to them "don't darken my Doorstep again" and pointed at the door. They were reluctant at first but think they got the message.
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