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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 17:31:48 GMT
No I said to them "don't darken my Doorstep again" I think I'm going to hire someone to paint my doorstep black just so I can say that to them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 18:11:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 19:15:41 GMT
There’s a show on Netflix called Tidying Up. Not with Ulla Inga Hanson Benson Yansen Tallen Hallen Swaden Swanson Bloom, but with Marie Kondo. Its the Japanese approach to tidying. Before you chuck your clothes out you have to thank them. And you’re only allowed to keep things that ‘spark joy’. It’s all very zen. And if you can’t be bothered with all that, go to the British Heart Foundation website, order 20 donation bags, fill them and then ring up for them to be collected. Couldn’t be easier. Watched the first episode last night. It was kinda entertaining, but I suspect the rest will be just the same stuff and rules repeated over and over. I get the idea. One episode is enough for me. |
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 19, 2019 20:15:57 GMT
Once Monkey Towers becomes Monkey Mansion, though, in addition to the banana vault, banana storage room, banana backup storage room, several rooms with various sized tyre swings and a large home cinema with a fully equipped stage, there will be a vast and lovely library of the type Clara remarked to the Doctor, "now that's just showing off." No, it isn't. It's bliss. My dream library is the one in Trinity College, Dublin, except with the books replaced by ones more to my taste. I'll keep the illuminated manuscripts though, I like those.
I recently had a clothes clear-out & quite happily got rid of lots of those. However the books stay, over my dead body! I am a great re-reader. You know you have a lot of books not when you run out of shelf space - I did that years ago - but when you run out of ceiling space for the towering piles!
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Post by peggs on Jan 19, 2019 20:54:15 GMT
I'm thinking I should perhaps show willing and get rid of some stuff having read this. I only buy books/cds/dvds on the premise that I have really always read/listened/watched them before and will want to do on repeat, if not I have to borrow them or do without. But I do still have these things in hard copy rather than digitally and they're a right faff to shift every time I move. I did go through a can only buy new clothes if get rid of something else clothes, I don't buy much but do have way too many slop round house/layers type clothes than I will ever need, I do not have sufficient weekends to wear all the tshirts I own. Also I own a lot of the same things like coats, or gloves, they're all just slightly different enough that I don't feel able to do without them e.g. waterproof but not warm, warm but only showerproof, downpour and blizzard proof but only suitable in field of mud.
The BHF bags are a good tip, I just need to remember if that is where my dad volunteers or he'll bring it all back and say 'isn't this what I gave you?'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 21:45:53 GMT
Oh I love a de-clutter. Not sure if it fits anymore? Get rid. If you don’t know, you’ve not worn it in a long time. Get rid. Not worn it in a long time? Probably doesn’t fit. Get rid. Bag of clothes you’d forgot about? Don’t look, get rid.
I went digital 2 years ago. If I could get it on my iPad, I got rid. Get rid of the DVD player and CD player then take it from there. I have a small ottoman that now houses my dvd collection, book collection and cd collection. Photos albums, signed membrobilia and tickets are all kept in another, along with the old Madonna calendars.
Travel light I say. Keep the things that mean the most and - as I’m still young - I keep the things I might like to show the eventual kids and grandkids. Programme and tickets from the first Cursed Child performance? Keepers. Wicked programme? Not so much.
I have to declutter my kitchen next week. I fear I have too many pans. Never enough spoons though. Why is it that spoons are like socks? Every time I put them in the dishwasher I swear I lose one.
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Post by Tibidabo on Jan 19, 2019 22:28:16 GMT
Why is it that spoons are like socks? Every time I put them in the dishwasher I swear I lose one. Well, there's your answer. Don't put your socks in the dishwasher. My mantra - If in doubt, chuck it out. No clutter at Tibidabo Towers. None. Nada. Never. I'm more than a tiny bit appalled at you messy lot.😖😱 Go tidy your rooms! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 0:53:32 GMT
Took two massive bags of stuff to the charity shop yesterday and threw other bits and pieces in the bin - very satisfying! The problem with going to drop donations at charity shops though is that I always seem to end up buying something at the same time... Marie Kondo recommends an extreme method like putting all your clothes on the bed, all of them and going through each item but this is scary. I do that at least twice a year. I don't talk to them though... |
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Post by showgirl on Jan 20, 2019 6:20:46 GMT
My "clutter" issue isn't with things I've bought - I can be ruthless about those - but with unsuitable gifts from close family, especially hand-knitted jumpers etc. I'll never wear them & not being the handicrafts type myself, I can't unwind them & make something else, but how can I give away something made with hours of love and care by someone who thought I would cherish it?
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Post by nick on Jan 20, 2019 9:37:18 GMT
My "clutter" issue isn't with things I've bought - I can be ruthless about those - but with unsuitable gifts from close family, especially hand-knitted jumpers etc. I'll never wear them & not being the handicrafts type myself, I can't unwind them & make something else, but how can I give away something made with hours of love and care by someone who thought I would cherish it? Yes be careful. My wife spent months making a patchwork quilt for her sister as a wedding present 30 years ago. And she's still not quite forgiven her for never using it. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jan 20, 2019 11:46:12 GMT
I love this topic, Im a social worker and find the topic of hoarding fascinating. I am at the other end of spectrum, with everything in its place. A carrier bag is always on standby for trips to the charity shop. My music is now digitised. Some novels I keep. All Sondheim programmes are kept albeit strictly for reference purposes! Cookery, theatre and travel books are all neatly stacked on bookshelves. In my book (well stored) A person needs belongings but they need to be tidy   |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 11:55:13 GMT
oooh that is some beautifully clean space there!!
I actually spent yesterday clearing out my office space and giving the bedroom a tidy. The former is the only space that accumulates 'mess' because various papers and files get 'filed' in piles until I can store or no longer need them. In fact in the process of sorting some I was in mid conversation with a producer friend and found the script of the first thing we worked on...two years ago. Oops!
But it is now suitably tidy. I can't even work on a cluttered desk!
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Post by peggs on Jan 20, 2019 12:13:51 GMT
Inspired by here I've started planning in my head what can go, it's a start, albeit a theoretical one at this point. @someone in a tree I do like your little box shelves that fit above doors etc, good use of space.
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Post by glossie on Jan 20, 2019 12:36:41 GMT
We've moved a few times over the years and every time we've thrown away/redistributed so much stuff, but still managed to take 6 packing crates of books, bags of clothes, unwanted ornaments, and sundry electrical items including a Kenwood Chef and furniture to the charity shops. Also spent many a happy hour queuing at the tip to dispose of general rubbish from the loft, garage etc. Some of the stuff we sent to a charity shop was still in unopened boxes from our previous move... My general rule was 'If I haven't used it or thought about it in the last 6 months, then I most likely never will.' Although I couldn't bring myself to get rid of my theatre programmes and some CDs and DVDs. Getting rid of the several hundred books was the hardest for me, but we have a local library which we make good use of. We also went through all the photos we never looked at and chucked loads away. Then, a week later, a family member mentioned a particular visit to a film set for a TV series that had been shot locally which they'd remembered. The one we had photos of which we didn't think anyone would be interested in any more.  Never get rid of old family photos though. That is something you can never get back and may well regret later. And I still have a wardrobe full of clothes I haven't worn or needed in the two years since we moved here! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:57:51 GMT
Never get rid of old family photos though. That is something you can never get back and may well regret later. oh I don't know, in my family there's a fair few who could do with being in the literal and metaphoric bin... |
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 20, 2019 13:06:48 GMT
I understand people's reasons for digitising music but I think it's a shame we put space and convenience above quality.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jan 20, 2019 13:48:20 GMT
Have always been a declutterer, often thought, would it be possible to live an electronic life with very few possessions, MacBook, iPhone, iPad, Kindle, large TV/ Surround/ Hi-Fi System and a couple of guitars, even started to consider only having a limited wardrobe a la Steve Jobs but maybe with a more interesting colour palette. When I moved to London a few years went through everything I owned and if I had two of anything I needed I would keep the best or sell both of them and upgrade to one that best met my needs and a lot of clothes, magazines, books, vinyl, DVD’s were purged. My only weakness is my CD collection (kept incase my hard Drive fail), the CD's have been digitised at the highest quality and use a Mac with upscaling software, an external DAC as the heart of my Hi-Fi system, the only time these would be purged is if the rumoured CD / high quality Apple Music / Spotify service is launched.(have looked at Tidal and Quobuz but the selection is still patchy) Using Backdrifter scale, definitely think I’m leaning towards the f***ing psycho category. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 18:12:48 GMT
Also I own a lot of the same things like coats, or gloves, they're all just slightly different enough that I don't feel able to do without them e.g. waterproof but not warm, warm but only showerproof, downpour and blizzard proof but only suitable in field of mud. I totally own this as well. |
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Post by nick on Jan 21, 2019 6:57:15 GMT
I understand people's reasons for digitising music but I think it's a shame we put space and convenience above quality. So you don't buy CDs or any modern music? All of which is digitised. It depends how you digitise it. There are "lossless" formats that keep all the quality. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 21, 2019 10:35:20 GMT
I understand people's reasons for digitising music but I think it's a shame we put space and convenience above quality. So you don't buy CDs or any modern music? All of which is digitised. It depends how you digitise it. There are "lossless" formats that keep all the quality. No I meant non-physical formats such as streaming. I do buy CDs. What are these lossless formats? Even with that, I still like having a physical product that has an element of design. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 10:40:52 GMT
I still buy DVDs and CDs because if I don't own the physical product, then I don't really own it. And I don't mean that in some kind of snobbish modern-Luddite anti-digital way, I very much mean that if I buy an MP3 from iTunes or Amazon then I only own it for as long as iTunes or Amazon agree to my having an account with them, and as that is in no way a 100% forever guarantee, I will continue to buy physical copies of the media that I would be devastated to lose in the event of becoming a victim of major credit card fraud or an extreme online harassment campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 10:57:32 GMT
I understand people's reasons for digitising music but I think it's a shame we put space and convenience above quality. I think the digitalisation of music can be a positive thing. Although I have always been exposed to a whole array of music tastes and willing to 'take a chance' on stuff I may not be previously aware/a fan of, Spotify has increased this willingness to explore music to a whole new level. The amount of stuff I'm listening to for the first time is fantastic and the 'if you like' section is a God send. I've definitely broadened my musical tastes and i wish there was a comparable platform for films (I know Netflix and Amazon Prime are around but they seem very modern focused and, just like my music, I want to explore as far back as possible.) |
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 21, 2019 10:59:31 GMT
I still buy DVDs and CDs because if I don't own the physical product, then I don't really own it. And I don't mean that in some kind of snobbish modern-Luddite anti-digital way, I very much mean that if I buy an MP3 from iTunes or Amazon then I only own it for as long as iTunes or Amazon agree to my having an account with them, and as that is in no way a 100% forever guarantee, I will continue to buy physical copies of the media that I would be devastated to lose in the event of becoming a victim of major credit card fraud or an extreme online harassment campaign. Some good points there I hadn't thought of. Also, I too don't mean to come across in a Ludditesque way. |
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 21, 2019 11:02:17 GMT
I understand people's reasons for digitising music but I think it's a shame we put space and convenience above quality. I think the digitalisation of music can be a positive thing. Although I have always been exposed to a whole array of music tastes and willing to 'take a chance' on stuff I may not be previously aware/a fan of, Spotify has increased this willingness to explore music to a whole new level. The amount of stuff I'm listening to for the first time is fantastic and the 'if you like' section is a God send. I've definitely broadened my musical tastes and i wish there was a comparable platform for films (I know Netflix and Amazon Prime are around but they seem very modern focused and, just like my music, I want to explore as far back as possible.) I agree it can be good for how you discover new stuff, I'm thinking more about ways of owning the stuff. Most of my music discoveries still come via radio. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 11:39:53 GMT
I mean it's all a matter of preference for how you engage with a medium and how much...someone I know was outraged last week that anyone would still buy DVD over Blu Ray...I explained I don't buy enough films or indeed watch enough to make forking out (even a relatively small amount) for a Blu Ray player worthwhile...it's just not a medium I'm that engaged with to make me care.
Similarly with music, I don't 'consume' in the buying sense enough to be that invested in sound quality and all the other things that come with the debates around hard copy ownership. If that's your thing, then great, but I'd wager for the 'average Joe' who listens while working, at the gym, in the car, streaming is decent enough quality.
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