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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2022 19:35:35 GMT
He's a new name to me, i must admit, but then i dont remember every name in a programme like i used to. When i first moved to London i read a programme from cover to cover, remembered everyone in everything, not so much these days.
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Post by joem on Feb 15, 2022 1:09:17 GMT
I don't know anything about the politics of the casting or auditions for this so I can't comment. Went to see it on the basis of I love the film - I think calling it a jukebox musical does it a disservice because of how well the songs fitted into the story and how naturally the film cast were able to deliver and incorporate them as sung dialogue which carried the story forward.
Have to admit not all the changes in the score have been felicitous. I particularly missed "The Show Must Go On" which, when sung by Jim Broadbent, was very poignant and one of the film's aural highlights despite his limited range. I am not keen on the way they have thrown in all these extra tracks and name-checked other songs - it's spot the track and ends up at times being delivered like a bad pun in a pantomime so the audience can groan. At this point it stops being a musical and becomes a play on which you hang whichever track you want to.
Talking of Jim Broadbent, not sure if Clive Carter is totally impersonating him but if he is he succeeds hands down and goes on to steal the show I think, ably assisted by Jason Pennycooke as Toulouse-Lautrec. I don't think the leading duo were bad, Liisi Lafontaine especially was actually pretty good, but they did need a bit of extra oomph. Might come with time. Loved Timmika Ramsay's energy too as La Chocolat.
I prefer Moulin Rouge to be more tragic than good-time entertainment so the encores, fun though they might be, are a bit emotionally tone-deaf but people mutht be amuthed.
It's still a very decent show and I expect it to run and run.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 15, 2022 7:09:49 GMT
joem thanks for your review. You've summed up what I think about the Broadway cast recording and what I've read about the stage production - I'll stick with the film.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Feb 16, 2022 0:03:27 GMT
The ladies next to me would not stop singing along. I get that you recognise most of the songs and they're very sing-along-able songs, but I did not pay to hear you sing!!!! Anyway, spoke to an usher at the interval and they were very lovely and said that they would speak to the ladies, but also moved me to a different section. In the end I got moved from the back of the grand circle to the front of the royal circle for act 2.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 19, 2022 21:06:40 GMT
] I prefer Moulin Rouge to be more tragic than good-time entertainment so the encores, fun though they might be, are a bit emotionally tone-deaf but people mutht be amuthed. It's still a very decent show and I expect it to run and run. This I totally agree with but other than that I am at odds with the majority here, in that I thought Christian was actually good and engaging as lead, and Satine just totally flat. She simply didn’t sparkle and among a very strong ensemble we just couldn’t believe that she would be the star of the show at the Moulin Rouge. Agree with the lack of chemistry between Christian and Satine but we pinned that on Satine, who seemed to have no comedy chops at all and so couldn’t bring any life to the bits that are meant to be funny! That first Elephant scene with Christian is meant to be farce!! Really made me appreciate how good an actress Nicole Kidman is. Yes, I am a fan of the film, and I think it rather spoiled my enjoyment because I simply could not stop comparing the show to it in my head, and it came up short for most of the show. The only change/addition that actually worked for me was Rolling in the Deep. And I know I sound like a grumpy old woman when I say this, but most of the new pop songs added just don’t work so well because they’re not as good! They are melodically lacking and don’t give the cast a chance to open up vocally. And I didn’t think they integrated into the score and story as well as the originals - they just didn’t flow as well. Having said that did enjoy Poker Face even though it added nothing to the actual story. Was relieved that they actually kept Roxanne in. All in all, despite a terrific ensemble and some strong work from the supporting roles, it just didn’t hang together well enough for me.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Feb 20, 2022 8:37:11 GMT
Saw this on a whim a few evenings ago and surprised myself with how much I enjoyed it. I didn’t rate the Broadway cast recording at all - I felt there were too many pop songs shoehorned in, many with only a verse or so, and tonal shifts which felt abrupt. In the context of the full show and staging, however, I feel that it all works. In a big way because this is a show which knows what it is - a glorified jukebox - and leans into that to surprise the audience with those clever quick jumps between songs and tone whilst overall delivering a big spectacle.
Excellent energy overall from the ensemble, but another vote from me that the two leads (we saw Jamie Bogyo/Christian and Tanisha Spring/Alternate Satine) were flat. Completely capable and talented, but just missing that extra something which can make a lead pop. Both were much stronger in the second act but still lacking something throughout which is a shame.
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Post by greeny11 on Feb 21, 2022 21:00:37 GMT
At the interval and I am enjoying it. Tanisha is strong as Satine (if a bit young). Simon is excellent as the Duke and I am enjoying Clive as Zedler. Jason Pennycooke’s French accent is a lot easier to understand here than in Hamilton (which admittedly could be to do with the rapping).
With regards to Jamie Bogyo, his acting is rather wooden but he has a nice singing voice. In a more classic MT show, I think he’d fit in well. His voice isn’t really suited to the pop style required in this show, especially as he can’t really belt. Anything high is sung with his head voice. That said, the Elephant Love medley was as enjoyable as I hoped, and probably the best moment for Jamie so far.
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Post by A.Ham on Feb 21, 2022 21:13:04 GMT
The Elephant Love Medley was definitely my favourite moment of the show. Loved how they wove in lines from so many different (and brilliant, classic) songs.
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Post by greeny11 on Feb 21, 2022 22:57:45 GMT
If Jamie had brought the vocals from act 2 into act 1, that would’ve been nice - very strong vocally in act 2, especially in Roxanne. Still a bit wooden acting wise.
I did think it’s a show that goes for style over substance mostly, but I did really enjoy it overall.
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Post by dillan on Mar 3, 2022 15:19:07 GMT
Some dynamic pricing happening for tonight's show on the website (I'm assuming due to the tube strike).
A lot of £35 tickets available in the Upper Circle, £135 tickets have been reduced to £89.
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Post by jacob on Mar 3, 2022 18:01:18 GMT
Some dynamic pricing happening for tonight's show on the website (I'm assuming due to the tube strike). A lot of £35 tickets available in the Upper Circle, £135 tickets have been reduced to £89. Any chance we can do this for all performances now? :0
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Post by dm913 on Mar 4, 2022 7:03:09 GMT
Some dynamic pricing happening for tonight's show on the website (I'm assuming due to the tube strike). A lot of £35 tickets available in the Upper Circle, £135 tickets have been reduced to £89. Any chance we can do this for all performances now? :0 They do it occasionally. I've seen £175 seats go down to around £60 for the midweek matinee.
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Post by ilovewemusicals on Mar 6, 2022 12:03:22 GMT
Yesterday I saw Moulin Rouge for the first time - From the moment you step into the auditorium of the Piccadilly Theatre, you are transported to the Paris of old. Serious-faced performers wander around the stage before the show starts, giving off dark, mysterious vibes. This is quite a contrast to when the show starts and everything is colourful and the cast are dancing up a storm. Which brings me to the dancing in the show. It’s breathtaking, particularly the iconic can-can routines, which are worth the visit to see the show alone.
The set is another marvel as it seems to stretch for miles and performers pop-up from all around the auditorium during various moments of the show (be sure to look at the Windmill that is half way down the auditorium when Satine says “talk to me Harry Zidler” in the Diamonds song). The way that scenery drops in during a split second or how the entire design changes during a very brief blackout is stunning.
Harry Zidler, the Moulin Rouge’s master of ceremonies, was played by Clive Carter. His was BY FAR my favourite performance of the evening. He portrayed everything from Harold’s charismatic host persona to his sympathetic friendly persona (who loves his colleagues) yet his stubborn, duty bound persona all brilliantly. For me, the way this role is done is one of the main reasons to see the show.
I was sat in Row B, directly behind the can-can cabaret seats. The can-can seats themselves, if you’re sat on the front row then you would miss a lot of the action. The second row you are very close to the performers. The chairs also have a wooden back and less padding than the other stalls seats and the show is long. So just a warning to anyone considering those.
Our seats in row B were comfortable apart from limited legroom due to the set protruding out in front of us, which my dad particularly found agonising at times. This wasn’t helped by the fact that the matinee was 15 mins late starting though.
As for the show itself, it’s based on Baz Luhrmann’s film of the same name, which is a tragic love story about a Moulin Rouge prostitute named Satine and a poet named Christian who fall in love. However, as the Moulin Rouge is in debt, Satine feels compelled to love the wealthy Duke, even though he only loves her for her appearance.
The film successfully put 80s and earlier pop songs into the storyline to excellent effect. In the musical, even more songs are added from the 90s and 00s. The way they mash-up all the different songs is one of my favourite things about this show.
The Duke in the film was not a DILF but in the musical he really is (we had Craig Ryder in the role and he was really good). However, there are so many shows with love triangles where the other guy is a DILF that it takes away the originality of the film for me. In the musical, The Duke still wants to buy Satine’s love though and is still very much the villain of the piece.
Christian, on the other hand, is one The Bohemians, who are opposed to the Duke and value love. The Bohemains want to put on a musical at the Moulin Rouge and this allows Satine (its leading lady) and Christian (the poet who will write the lyrics and play the hero) to have a secret love affair (although the Duke is not a fool).
One thing I noticed, which probably most people won’t due to how much stuff is always going on, is that the great writer (Christian) is never seen to write anything down during the entire show. It would have been nice to have a brief moment of him sitting at a typewriter.
The Bohemians were played with great panache by Elia La Toro as Santiago (his version of Lady Gaga’s Bad Romance a highlight) and Jason Pennycooke as Toulouse (his French accent and version of Nature Boy two highlights). I didn’t find that Santiago or Toulouse had as much personality as the characters in the film though. Particularly missed was Santiago’s narcolepsy.
The ending was probably the biggest let down of this show for me. The whole plot is building up to the theatrical performance that will make Christian’s lyrics famous. The performance itself is reduced to a few bits of dialogue. Also, a dramatic moment with Satine at the end did not have much drama for me either (though some audience members still cried). I would have liked the Duke to have come storming in with a gun and confront the couple as he does in the climax of the film.
This is a very fun show though and, although tickets are extortionate, you see where all your money has gone. I probably had one of the most enjoyable afternoons I’ve ever had at the theatre and will definitely see it again. But it does have plot flaws, particularly towards the end.
P.S. I love the song Come What May and I know it was the only original song in the Moulin Rouge! film but it’s reprised soooooo many times in act two. Surely they could have found a substitute song.
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Post by d'James on Mar 15, 2022 20:01:39 GMT
I know this might sound a silly question, but anyway, here goes:
Would you recommend this show to someone who hated the film? Is it very similar or different?
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Post by Mark on Mar 15, 2022 21:26:01 GMT
I know this might sound a silly question, but anyway, here goes: Would you recommend this show to someone who hated the film? Is it very similar or different? I wasn’t a fan of the film at all but loved the show (in New York)
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 15, 2022 21:35:19 GMT
I love the film to pieces, I just know I'm going to hate it on stage 🤣
I've got a Christmas voucher to use and a birthday coming up next week so I might treat/punish myself 🤣
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Post by enh2 on Mar 17, 2022 18:14:48 GMT
Moulin Rouge! has extended its run until 1st October 2022. Additional tickets are currently on sale for ATG Theatrecard holders (Jul-Oct) only. I presume tickets will be released for the general public soon.
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Post by sfsusan on Mar 17, 2022 23:44:33 GMT
Would you recommend this show to someone who hated the film? Is it very similar or different? I think it would depend on why one hated the film. It is very similar, from what I remember of the film... same story, same ending, same over-the-top, exaggerated-reality approach, a few different songs. I didn't love the movie, but the show delivered what I expected... a spectacle, with some good songs.
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 17, 2022 23:51:48 GMT
I'm booked for Monday night for the princely sum of £12.80..... thanks Theatre Tokens! 😁
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Post by Paulw on Mar 17, 2022 23:53:41 GMT
I'm booked for Monday night for the princely sum of £12.80..... thanks Theatre Tokens! 😁 And I thought I did well at £32.50 in row c in the circle for tonight (Thursday)
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 17, 2022 23:54:53 GMT
I'm booked for Monday night for the princely sum of £12.80..... thanks Theatre Tokens! 😁 And I thought I did well at £32.50 in row c in the circle for tonight (Thursday) That is a bargain. Mine should be £87.80! Hope you enjoyed it 👍
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Post by Paulw on Mar 18, 2022 0:08:43 GMT
And I thought I did well at £32.50 in row c in the circle for tonight (Thursday) That is a bargain. Mine should be £87.80! Hope you enjoyed it 👍 Mine popped up at £65 this morning but thanks to O2 half price tokens it reduced it! I did it was a great and a nice surprise that I enjoyed it so much. I can’t add much more to the review a few posts up apart from Bogo (can’t remember his first name) I just couldn’t buy into his character he was far too weak for me but… he is a tall guy and visually works with Satine but that’s about as far as it went for me. Music was as I thought it would be but some of the mash ups are way too overdone which loses the emotion of the song. Stand out Clive Carter and the set and lighting designers! Although I feel for the person who has to replace a blown lightbulb above the stalls!
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 20, 2022 20:29:40 GMT
Adam Gillian is on for Christian from Monday to Wednesday this week.
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Post by Paulw on Mar 21, 2022 9:16:39 GMT
Adam Gillian is on for Christian from Monday to Wednesday this week. At least you won't have to sit through Jamie when you go tonight then! Enjoy! It's too soon for me to revisit it even with a cover in unfortunately.
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 21, 2022 9:29:05 GMT
Adam Gillian is on for Christian from Monday to Wednesday this week. At least you won't have to sit through Jamie when you go tonight then! Enjoy! It's too soon for me to revisit it even with a cover in unfortunately. Yep I'm thrilled, I have to say! I just need Zoe Birkett to be on as Satine now. A boy can dream....
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