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Post by robertb213 on May 18, 2021 20:18:44 GMT
There will always be returns or the odd unsold seat for anything, but that’s not how I can plan my life. I’m sure some people have lives where they can just do things on the spur of the moment but I live 145 miles from the west end so require a touch more planning. That's completely fair and of course you can't, that makes total sense. I'm just saying that I don't see where these 10,000 people are who are buying up every week's worth of tickets, at the best part of £100 a ticket, with no cast announced and taking place in the first post-Covid winter with massively reduced tourism. Even on this board of die-hard MT fans, only a dozen or so people have said they've booked! |
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Post by danb on May 18, 2021 20:37:38 GMT
I am desperate to get back to theatre wherever, and have numerous rebookings over the next few months. I have no fear, I’m vaccinated, I’ll wear a mask. Just let me at it. I’m not bothered about MR though. That ship sailed about ten years ago and the cast recording does nothing for me.
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Post by mrbarnaby on May 18, 2021 20:45:58 GMT
Having been able to get returns for Bette Middler in Hello, Dolly, I’m pretty confident they’ll also be available for the West End Moulin Rouge. There are always last minute ticket releases. Oh yes returns always come up.. I’m saying that they won’t be selling tickets with discounts for this for a long time. When I logged on to book Monday, there were 12k+ people ahead of me in the queue. And that’s without general booking going on sale and no actual advertising in papers/billboards etc yet. Anyway it’s just nice to have a big new show to look forward to. |
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Post by Rory on May 18, 2021 21:20:28 GMT
I logged on at 10.40 am on Monday and nearly fell through the floor when I saw there were nearly 11,000 people ahead of me. Was kicking myself I wasn't raring to go at 10am. Got two good stalls seats but not for the night I really wanted. Looking forward to it immensely. Theatre Gods, don't let me down!
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Post by southstreet on May 19, 2021 9:29:28 GMT
There will always be returns or the odd unsold seat for anything, but that’s not how I can plan my life. I’m sure some people have lives where they can just do things on the spur of the moment but I live 145 miles from the west end so require a touch more planning. I totally get that, I would also buy tickets very differently if I didn't live in London. But as I do and don't have any kids that I need to arrange babysitting for, I regularly decide on the day or a few days before that I wanna see a show . So I tend to never book for anything much in advance. Often there are day seats or lotteries that get announced just before the show starts, so for shows that might be hot tickets but aren't high on my priority list, I just try them until I get in and for shows that don't do them or that I really wanna see, I use returns a lot. I mean, I saw Hamilton here four times in its first month, the last one of those was a ticket in the back of the stalls that I booked 10 months in advance and was then moved by 4 weeks because they started their previews late. The other three before then were front row for £37.50, because they were unsold lottery tickets that they put on sale just after 6pm the day before the show. Later on in the run those were hiked up to £75 but still meant I could pretty much see Hamilton more or less whenever I wanted to on a day's notice, I just needed to be quick on the refresh button the evening before I wanted to go. Not saying that I will definitely get cheapies for Moulin Rouge if they have no lottery or dayseats but I have no doubt whatsoever that I will get in in its first month without a huge amount of effort. |
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Post by christya on May 19, 2021 11:26:36 GMT
I live three hours outside of London and often get dirt cheap tickets simply by planning a theatre trip without booking anything specific. Of course this isn't so easy if you have your heart set on a particular show, but I find that with a combination of online lotteries, day seats, and grabbing the odd ticket on lastminute.com it often works out. Nice front row of the circle ticket for £25 for Lion King a while back - though in retrospect I was glad it hadn't cost more. Perfect view, beautiful music - and I was bored out of my mind.
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on May 20, 2021 10:52:19 GMT
I think I've been very lucky here. I was away Monday to Wednesday but just booked a row C stalls seat recommended by "TM" for £89.50 for the first Monday performance.
The next seat in from mine costs an eye-watering £184.50 for a Blue Elephant Package. I'll happily miss out on the SIX glasses of champagne. Why six I wonder; seems excessive ?
It has pre-booked incredibly well. The first two previews and both Saturday matinees in November are already sold out and only single seats remain for many early performances.
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Post by danb on May 20, 2021 16:11:40 GMT
Heard today that Jade Ewan was offered Satine but has since disappeared from the ‘business’.
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 20, 2021 18:16:38 GMT
Oh well good. She was fine in anything I saw her in but just fine, and we want to do a little better than that really don't we.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 20, 2021 18:25:17 GMT
Oh well good. She was fine in anything I saw her in but just fine, and we want to do a little better than that really don't we. I think that’s the very definition of “damned with faint praise” Andy! |
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Post by ruthieh on May 23, 2021 15:45:12 GMT
Sorted the diary out and booked next April, once the dust has settled! Still good a availability next year!
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 23, 2021 17:19:35 GMT
What are the prices like?
I'm trying to plan my diary but general sale is tomorrow, can't see prices as members only.
(You'd think ATG would include a breakdown...!)
Thank you :-)
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 23, 2021 21:10:51 GMT
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Post by danb on May 23, 2021 21:12:38 GMT
That’s some depressing pricing isn’t it?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2021 9:49:53 GMT
I remembered I had an ATG voucher left from Sunday in the Park so caved and used it to grab a ticket for the last week of previews.
Plenty of options for solo theatregoers at the minute - it is pretty much single seats only left for the whole of previews!
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 24, 2021 11:36:40 GMT
It's so frustrating as usually the stalls seats would be reflected in the dress.... £57.50 ones.
The ones at the back of the stalls have the overhang so should be classified as RV in my opinion, no warning.
The same priced seats are then in grand circle, I'm not bad with heights but it's just TOO HIGH after I saw Ghost!
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Post by ceebee on May 24, 2021 13:13:52 GMT
Other producers will rub their hands with glee looking at prices for this and how it is selling. Welcome to the £200 ticket in London. That's £1k for your average family to go and see before travel, drinks and food.
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Post by inthenose on May 24, 2021 13:28:04 GMT
Other producers will rub their hands with glee looking at prices for this and how it is selling. Welcome to the £200 ticket in London. That's £1k for your average family to go and see before travel, drinks and food. But what about the orchestra! 🤣 I posted about the ridiculous prices in the Phantom thread. Fact is, when people don't pay the prices, they drop. Dynamic pricing has allowed for both price gouging and bargain hunting. But the model only works on setting inflated prices, hoping people will pay, and lowering them to still profitable but more realistic prices if they don't. If I list a ticket at £200 and it sells 30%, I'll reduce it by half and everyone who pays £100 is getting a bargain - 50% discount! Of course, I might only need £40 to break even. If I started at £100 and dropped to £50, I'm literally halving my profits, but the pigeons and marks will pay whatever, because they think that's the "going rate". Like corporations, people can't get attached or deluded into thinking that producers are their "friends". They want your dime, because commercial theatre is for-profit. They aren't your friends and don't care about you. I simply don't pay if I rate the ticket price overvalued, which is why I've often had to wait years (Lion King, Hamilton) to see a show until affordable options (day seats, ticket offers) or contacts in the show become available. |
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Post by Mark on May 24, 2021 13:38:32 GMT
Other producers will rub their hands with glee looking at prices for this and how it is selling. Welcome to the £200 ticket in London. That's £1k for your average family to go and see before travel, drinks and food. Except most shows aren’t Moulin Rouge! If they tried charging that for Be More Chill/Heathers they’d not sell anything. |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on May 24, 2021 14:04:13 GMT
Other producers will rub their hands with glee looking at prices for this and how it is selling. Welcome to the £200 ticket in London. That's £1k for your average family to go and see before travel, drinks and food. Except most shows aren’t Moulin Rouge! If they tried charging that for Be More Chill/Heathers they’d not sell anything. I am just thinking the price divided into two for both acts. And I haven't seen theatre in person since the 6th March 2020... SOOOO. |
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Post by ceebee on May 24, 2021 19:06:04 GMT
My point was that Moulin Rouge is selling at the inflated prices, which will simply encourage others to inflate theirs as high as they can go.
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Post by robertb213 on May 24, 2021 19:14:39 GMT
My point was that Moulin Rouge is selling at the inflated prices, which will simply encourage others to inflate theirs as high as they can go. Exactly. And with no big names announced to justify the price. The Broadway reviews didn't exactly set the world on fire either. I'm sure it'll be amazing but it's setting a dangerous new precedent that could make theatre unaffordable for a lot of people. If people continue to pay it then prices will continue to rise. This isn't a case of 'if you want an iPhone you either pay through the nose or you go without', theatre should be accessible to everyone, not just the rich. Fair play to those who can do it. I'm just surprised there are so many people willing to part with so much money on this based solely on it 'being Moulin Rouge'. Maybe it'll make sense when they announce the cast. I only paid £85 for Sunday In The Park With George and that was to be three rows away from Jake Gyllenhaal! |
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Post by marob on May 24, 2021 19:16:02 GMT
The prices are ridiculous, but I think Sunday in the Park with George had tickets that were over £200, though obviously that had a movie star attached.
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Post by robertb213 on May 24, 2021 19:25:41 GMT
The prices are ridiculous, but I think Sunday in the Park with George had tickets that were over £200, though obviously that had a movie star attached. But there were a larger number of less expensive seats available, which Moulin Rouge isn't offering. They might have two blinding leads lined up, but if there are two West End performers up there (rather than 'names'), then someone needs to justify those prices. 'A nice-looking set' doesn't cut it I'm afraid. A giant elephant and two big names floating across a Parisian sky, then maybe I'll buy into it. |
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Post by marob on May 24, 2021 19:48:29 GMT
The prices are ridiculous, but I think Sunday in the Park with George had tickets that were over £200, though obviously that had a movie star attached. But there were a larger number of less expensive seats available, which Moulin Rouge isn't offering. They might have two blinding leads lined up, but if there are two West End performers up there (rather than 'names'), then someone needs to justify those prices. 'A nice-looking set' doesn't cut it I'm afraid. A giant elephant and two big names floating across a Parisian sky, then maybe I'll buy into it. FWIW I’m not trying to justify the prices, just pointing out that this isn’t the first time ATG have set ridiculous premiums. |
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