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Post by punxsutawney on Sept 11, 2023 17:29:16 GMT
I do wonder what the point is of surveys that ask if you'd be prepared to pay x pounds. Even if you would, who in their right mind is going to volunteer that information to give them the ammunition they need to raise prices? Quite, particularly as they have a huge database of past sales to analyse statistically to tell them what actually happens when they raise or lower prices for a whole range of different types of production. On another topic, how about this: "National Theatre director Rufus Norris has praised America for being "so much better" at musicals, claiming the form is taken “seriously” there." To me this seems not only untrue in general (the West End and subsidised sector is full of musicals) but the NT under Norris seems to have taken musicals far less "seriously" (whatever that means) than any of his predecessors on the South Bank - for example his conclusion that with no experience at all he could write the lyrics of one himself bears this out. Also rather disrespectful to the musical they staged which just won the Olivier and is transferring to the West End...
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on Sept 11, 2023 19:12:19 GMT
I do wonder what the point is of surveys that ask if you'd be prepared to pay x pounds. Even if you would, who in their right mind is going to volunteer that information to give them the ammunition they need to raise prices? Quite, particularly as they have a huge database of past sales to analyse statistically to tell them what actually happens when they raise or lower prices for a whole range of different types of production. On another topic, how about this: "National Theatre director Rufus Norris has praised America for being "so much better" at musicals, claiming the form is taken “seriously” there." To me this seems not only untrue in general (the West End and subsidised sector is full of musicals) but the NT under Norris seems to have taken musicals far less "seriously" (whatever that means) than any of his predecessors on the South Bank - for example his conclusion that with no experience at all he could write the lyrics of one himself bears this out. Given Hytner barely programmed musicals during his tenure this feels like a reach. The man cocked up on Hex though. Big time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2023 21:13:34 GMT
I do wonder what the point is of surveys that ask if you'd be prepared to pay x pounds. Even if you would, who in their right mind is going to volunteer that information to give them the ammunition they need to raise prices? I always give the answers that will steer them away from any changes I wouldn't like, regardless of whether it's an honest response. Commonly used marketing tactic among companies and organizations of all stripes to assess perceived value. They have their own internal filters for who they interpret the responses perceived. My employer, a US Fortune 100 company, uses them all the time.
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Post by nottobe on Sept 28, 2023 18:37:06 GMT
I was just thinking that it is odd the NT haven't got any NT lives coming up soon or had any that recently. The last they had was Best of Enemies in May and also a few encores of Fleabag recently. Have they stopped them now due to National Theatre at Home?
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Post by lynette on Sept 28, 2023 19:05:01 GMT
Quite, particularly as they have a huge database of past sales to analyse statistically to tell them what actually happens when they raise or lower prices for a whole range of different types of production. On another topic, how about this: "National Theatre director Rufus Norris has praised America for being "so much better" at musicals, claiming the form is taken “seriously” there." To me this seems not only untrue in general (the West End and subsidised sector is full of musicals) but the NT under Norris seems to have taken musicals far less "seriously" (whatever that means) than any of his predecessors on the South Bank - for example his conclusion that with no experience at all he could write the lyrics of one himself bears this out. Also rather disrespectful to the musical they staged which just won the Olivier and is transferring to the West End... Sounds like ‘they didn’t take my musical seriously’ kind of whinge
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Post by teamyali on Sept 29, 2023 13:00:27 GMT
I’m happy that NTLive just landed in the Philippines. For years I’ve been begging for this to happen! I really hope it is a long-term partnership. x.com/ccpfbnm/status/1702233262217957395?s=46&t=U_eg6H3hI7v9FHf5TFJ_jAMy main complaint is that a good number of those titles are also available at NT at Home (although monthly subscription is not cheap, it costs around ₱679 or roughly £9.79. It’s a hundred peso higher than the premium Netflix subscription), and some NTLive titles that are still not on NT at Home or used to be at the streaming service (like Prima Facie, which deserves to be seen by law students and the general public) should be their priority for cinema screening (Present Laughter lol).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2023 21:00:28 GMT
Michael Billington column in The Guardian on NT's 60th anniversary. www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/oct/05/national-theatre-nt-plays-drama"The future of the National depends on any number of factors: the state of the economy, who is in government and who the new director is. I would offer only one recommendation: that, without sacrificing its urgent contemporaneity, the National do more to retrieve plays from the world repertory."
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Post by andrew on Oct 7, 2023 17:26:29 GMT
Michael Billington column in The Guardian on NT's 60th anniversary. www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/oct/05/national-theatre-nt-plays-drama"The future of the National depends on any number of factors: the state of the economy, who is in government and who the new director is. I would offer only one recommendation: that, without sacrificing its urgent contemporaneity, the National do more to retrieve plays from the world repertory." Not sure I completely agree. Obviously every single year someone asks the question "what is a national theatre for?" and every director gets to move between the three piles of classics, revivals and new work. (Plus maybe a musical at Christmas, or the same musical twice if your wife wrote it) My personal opinion is that only subsidised theatre can really support new work, and only a few of them have the machinery to do it often and well. The NT has a New Work department, it has a studio workshop and it has the flexibility of different performance spaces to do this. Commercial theatre will never perform that role (or very rarely perform it) but certainly is in a position to revive existing material. I'm not saying the NT should only do new stuff and classics, but I don't see why it should focus more on modern revivals when any theatre can do that.
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Post by Rory on Oct 10, 2023 21:46:04 GMT
I'm guessing dates for The Motive and the Cue and Dear England. I wonder what else? Jamie LLoyd has form for NT Live with Cyrano and The Seagull. Wouldn't it be great to get Sunset Boulevard?!
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Post by Jon on Oct 10, 2023 22:46:00 GMT
I wouldn't expect Sunset Boulevard to be broadcast on NT Live, the rights issues with Paramount means it's unlikely in the same way that Network and The Normal Heart didn't get NT Live broadcasts because of rights.
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Post by Jan on Oct 11, 2023 8:27:57 GMT
Michael Billington column in The Guardian on NT's 60th anniversary. www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/oct/05/national-theatre-nt-plays-drama"The future of the National depends on any number of factors: the state of the economy, who is in government and who the new director is. I would offer only one recommendation: that, without sacrificing its urgent contemporaneity, the National do more to retrieve plays from the world repertory." Not sure I completely agree. Obviously every single year someone asks the question "what is a national theatre for?" and every director gets to move between the three piles of classics, revivals and new work. (Plus maybe a musical at Christmas, or the same musical twice if your wife wrote it) My personal opinion is that only subsidised theatre can really support new work, and only a few of them have the machinery to do it often and well. The NT has a New Work department, it has a studio workshop and it has the flexibility of different performance spaces to do this. Commercial theatre will never perform that role (or very rarely perform it) but certainly is in a position to revive existing material. I'm not saying the NT should only do new stuff and classics, but I don't see why it should focus more on modern revivals when any theatre can do that. There are loads of subsidised theatres that stage new work, and several who stage exclusively new work. In fact there are so many that the problem is getting enough new work of sufficient quality to successfully stage them with decent audience numbers. However only the NT and RSC can do revivals of classic drama with large casts that are not amongst the small number of popular classics that the commercial sector would take on.
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Post by Dave B on Oct 11, 2023 8:32:09 GMT
I'm guessing dates for The Motive and the Cue and Dear England. I wonder what else? Jamie LLoyd has form for NT Live with Cyrano and The Seagull. Wouldn't it be great to get Sunset Boulevard?! Dates/details for the following. Certainly about right for the Q1 shows to be announced.
Dear Octopus National Theatre (Lyttelton) February 2024
Nye National Theatre (Olivier) February 2024 Underdog: The Other Other Brontë National Theatre (Dorfman) March 2024 The Hot Wing King National Theatre (Dorfman) July 2024 London Tide National Theatre (Lyttelton) July 2024
Coriolanus National Theatre (Olivier) 2024
Oh nevermind me, I missed that it was NT Live, thought it was NT itself - oops.
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Post by zahidf on Oct 11, 2023 9:05:50 GMT
Vanya on NT Live 22nd Feb 2024 Dear England Jan 2024
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Post by Rory on Oct 11, 2023 9:07:01 GMT
No Motive and the Cue which is a shame, hopefully they will announce that for later next year, because I was there the day they were filming it. Glad to get a chance to see Vanya.
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Post by zahidf on Oct 11, 2023 9:22:34 GMT
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Post by MrBunbury on Oct 11, 2023 10:25:31 GMT
It went all silent about the new Artistic Director. Does anyone know anything, apart that it seemed that Indhu Rubasingham could have been offered the job?
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Post by lynette on Oct 12, 2023 19:13:24 GMT
‘Dazzling drama, Skylight’. Who are they trying to kid? It is interesting and well written but it ain’t dazzling. So many other plays but of course this a one set, and a two hander, isn’t it? (Maybe a third ch appears?) So cheap.
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Post by partytentdown on Oct 14, 2023 12:51:49 GMT
Carrie Cracknell is directing a play at the NT next year, according to an interview in The Stage. (Sorry if this is already known)
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Post by teamyali on Oct 14, 2023 14:16:53 GMT
‘Dazzling drama, Skylight’. Who are they trying to kid? It is interesting and well written but it ain’t dazzling. So many other plays but of course this a one set, and a two hander, isn’t it? (Maybe a third ch appears?) So cheap. I wish they bring Skylight to NT at Home. I’m quite underwhelmed with the slate of NT Live. Mostly reruns and only two are new ones (Vanya, Dear England) Are they running out of titles? The ones I could think of that deserve broadcasted proshots from recent shows: My Son’s A Queer Orlando Shirley Valentine Medea (though I think it’s not in Nica’s/Nimax’s best interests as they need to promote @sohoplace venue more) Dr Semmelweis (I don’t think Rylance is into it lol) Sunset Boulevard (we’ll never get the rights to this sadly) To Kill a Mockingbird (surprisingly no proshot of this?!) The Motive and the Cue (I think this is Broadway bound after its West End run, and/or a miniseries is likely)
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Post by Rory on Oct 14, 2023 14:20:32 GMT
Yes NT Live had a very good start to 2023 but has now gone totally quiet for the second half of the year. Latest announcement is underwhelming. Trotting out Skylight again 10 years later is not exciting.
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Post by jampot on Oct 15, 2023 16:13:13 GMT
‘Dazzling drama, Skylight’. Who are they trying to kid? It is interesting and well written but it ain’t dazzling. So many other plays but of course this a one set, and a two hander, isn’t it? (Maybe a third ch appears?) So cheap. I wish they bring Skylight to NT at Home. I’m quite underwhelmed with the slate of NT Live. Mostly reruns and only two are new ones (Vanya, Dear England) Are they running out of titles? The ones I could think of that deserve broadcasted proshots from recent shows: My Son’s A Queer Orlando Shirley Valentine Medea (though I think it’s not in Nica’s/Nimax’s best interests as they need to promote @sohoplace venue more) Dr Semmelweis (I don’t think Rylance is into it lol) Sunset Boulevard (we’ll never get the rights to this sadly) To Kill a Mockingbird (surprisingly no proshot of this?!) The Motive and the Cue (I think this is Broadway bound after its West End run, and/or a miniseries is likely) 99% certain motive and the cue was filmed..so will appear in some format at some point..
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Post by theoracle on Oct 15, 2023 23:26:09 GMT
Also would love to see The Normal Heart again - I’m guessing there’s a rights issue here?
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Post by Jon on Oct 15, 2023 23:37:30 GMT
Also would love to see The Normal Heart again - I’m guessing there’s a rights issue here? Ryan Murphy has screen rights so no theatre production can be filmed and broadcast, the same applies to Network which the screen rights are held by MGM.
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Post by jek on Oct 17, 2023 10:07:02 GMT
Just got the email stating that priority booking starts on November 2nd for Nye, Dear Octopus, London Tide, Til The Stars Come Down and Underdog:The Other Bronte. Also mentions that they are having some 6.30 pm performances.
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Post by zahidf on Oct 17, 2023 10:24:57 GMT
Just got the email stating that priority booking starts on November 2nd for Nye, Dear Octopus, London Tide, Til The Stars Come Down and Underdog:The Other Bronte. Also mentions that they are having some 6.30 pm performances. Tuesday and Thursdays have 6.30 performances
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Post by Dave B on Oct 17, 2023 11:07:56 GMT
New dates:
Till the Stars Come Down National Theatre (Dorfman) Wednesday, 24 January 2024 Saturday, 16 March 2024
Dear Octopus National Theatre (Lyttelton) Wednesday, 7 February 2024 to Tuesday, 27 March 2204
Nye National Theatre (Olivier) Saturday, 24 February 2024 to Saturday, 11 May 2024
Underdog: The Other Other Brontë National Theatre (Dorfman) Wednesday, 27 March 2024 to Saturday, 25 May 2024
London Tide National Theatre (Lyttelton) Wednesday, 10 April 2024 to Saturday, 22 June 2024
That leaves The Hot Wing King and Coriolanus with dates to be announced.
Public booking opens at midday, Thursday 9 November
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Post by n1david on Oct 17, 2023 11:09:40 GMT
Just got the email stating that priority booking starts on November 2nd for Nye, Dear Octopus, London Tide, Til The Stars Come Down and Underdog:The Other Bronte. Also mentions that they are having some 6.30 pm performances. Tuesday and Thursdays have 6.30 performances Not every Tuesday and Thursday, though. Dates here: www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/news/early-evening-performances/
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Post by Mark on Oct 17, 2023 11:33:03 GMT
Love the idea of a 6:30 show. A standard 10pm finish usually gets me home for just after 11. Getting home that little bit earlier helps a lot.
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Post by Latecomer on Oct 17, 2023 12:15:18 GMT
That have also, finally made dates searchable by matinee performance only! Hurrah!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2023 16:07:44 GMT
The earlier start especially for longer plays is an excellent idea provided people have time to get there.
Michael Sheen as Nye Bevan could be an outstanding performance given his ability with historic real life people. Nye's wife Jennie Lee was a long serving Arts Minister in Harold Wilson's 1960's Government who I assume Sharon Small will portray in the play.
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