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Post by Being Alive on Dec 13, 2023 0:22:32 GMT
Bit of a baffling choice to me - to go from Kiln to Nash is a bit too much of a leap I think.
Hope I'm wrong and she's great, but something about it just feels a bit off.
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Post by Jon on Dec 13, 2023 0:30:51 GMT
Bit of a baffling choice to me - to go from Kiln to Nash is a bit too much of a leap I think. Hope I'm wrong and she's great, but something about it just feels a bit off. TBF none of her predecessors had run buildings like the NT before either. |
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Post by zahidf on Dec 13, 2023 6:14:53 GMT
Bit of a baffling choice to me - to go from Kiln to Nash is a bit too much of a leap I think. Hope I'm wrong and she's great, but something about it just feels a bit off. Quite a few of us predicted it would be her! She has similar experience to other people who have run the place, and has done a few plays there before. Most people jump from a small theatre to a much bigger one anyway... |
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Post by Jan on Dec 13, 2023 7:18:17 GMT
Bit of a baffling choice to me - to go from Kiln to Nash is a bit too much of a leap I think. Hope I'm wrong and she's great, but something about it just feels a bit off. TBF none of her predecessors had run buildings like the NT before either. Trevor Nunn had. And Peter Hall. |
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Post by Jan on Dec 13, 2023 7:33:21 GMT
I think it's an uninspiring appointment, but I don't know who else (if anyone) was either considered or wanted the job. As most of the press coverage prioritises who she is rather than the work she's done I will say I'm concerned by her inept handling of two controversies while running the Kiln (the renaming of the theatre, and their refusal to host the UK Jewish film festival) - the NT job is very high-profile and diplomacy is one of the talents needed. On the programming side I expect she'll continue the Norris trend of tending to programme stuff of interest to Guardian readers, narrowing the audience appeal from Hytner's day.
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Here's Arifa Akbar in the Guardian:
"In 2017, he {Norris} was criticised for his focus on new, forward-facing work at the expense at established classics. But that approach was vindicated when the work he chose – Tony Kushner’s Angels in America (1991) and Stephen Sondheim’s Follies (1971) – went on to commercial success with Tony award wins and Broadway transfers".
So in her view two established classics from almost 50 and 30 years ago count as "new, forward-facing" work and the measure of success for NT productions is commercial success in USA.
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Post by partytentdown on Dec 13, 2023 8:19:36 GMT
Part of the application process was proposing one, perhaps, two seasons of work - so whatever she intends to do, the board of the theatre obviously agree. It's not like she's going to turn up on Day 1 and surprise everyone with some radical programming that nobody agrees with.
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Post by Jan on Dec 13, 2023 9:03:14 GMT
Part of the application process was proposing one, perhaps, two seasons of work - so whatever she intends to do, the board of the theatre obviously agree. It's not like she's going to turn up on Day 1 and surprise everyone with some radical programming that nobody agrees with. That is not inconsistent with my view that she'll tend to programme to appeal to Guardian readers (using that as a group noun for the metropolitan left-leaning chattering classes who are keen on identity politics and so on), 13 of them in the case of the board. |
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Post by zahidf on Dec 13, 2023 9:04:30 GMT
I think it's an uninspiring appointment, but I don't know who else (if anyone) was either considered or wanted the job. As most of the press coverage prioritises who she is rather than the work she's done I will say I'm concerned by her inept handling of two controversies while running the Kiln (the renaming of the theatre, and their refusal to host the UK Jewish film festival) - the NT job is very high-profile and diplomacy is one of the talents needed. On the programming side I expect she'll continue the Norris trend of tending to programme stuff of interest to Guardian readers, narrowing the audience appeal from Hytner's day. ... Here's Arifa Akbar in the Guardian: "In 2017, he {Norris} was criticised for his focus on new, forward-facing work at the expense at established classics. But that approach was vindicated when the work he chose – Tony Kushner’s Angels in America (1991) and Stephen Sondheim’s Follies (1971) – went on to commercial success with Tony award wins and Broadway transfers". So in her view two established classics from almost 50 and 30 years ago count as "new, forward-facing" work and the measure of success for NT productions is commercial success in USA. Last year, national has had a whole load of successes which have transferred to the west end or about to transfer. Dear england, motive and the Cue, crucible, e.t.c. I assume alba and the witches will be the same 50/50 (approx) new work. He's regime is clearly ending very strongly in commercial terms On indu, the kiln thing was a storm in a teacup really, no one really cared after a few months. The Jewish film stuff was more of an issue but that's all in the past now as well Commercially and artistically, she's done well at the Kilm, I'm sure she'll do well at the NT |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 13, 2023 9:50:26 GMT
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 13, 2023 9:51:52 GMT
I saw Gandhi's Assassin and thought it was quite unremarkable, i hope she is capable of much better
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Post by zahidf on Dec 13, 2023 11:04:28 GMT
All sounds very reasonable (and a board decision, not hers alone) |
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Post by lynette on Dec 13, 2023 11:19:10 GMT
I think it's an uninspiring appointment, but I don't know who else (if anyone) was either considered or wanted the job. As most of the press coverage prioritises who she is rather than the work she's done I will say I'm concerned by her inept handling of two controversies while running the Kiln (the renaming of the theatre, and their refusal to host the UK Jewish film festival) - the NT job is very high-profile and diplomacy is one of the talents needed. On the programming side I expect she'll continue the Norris trend of tending to programme stuff of interest to Guardian readers, narrowing the audience appeal from Hytner's day. ... Here's Arifa Akbar in the Guardian: "In 2017, he {Norris} was criticised for his focus on new, forward-facing work at the expense at established classics. But that approach was vindicated when the work he chose – Tony Kushner’s Angels in America (1991) and Stephen Sondheim’s Follies (1971) – went on to commercial success with Tony award wins and Broadway transfers". So in her view two established classics from almost 50 and 30 years ago count as "new, forward-facing" work and the measure of success for NT productions is commercial success in USA. Last year, national has had a whole load of successes which have transferred to the west end or about to transfer. Dear england, motive and the Cue, crucible, e.t.c. I assume alba and the witches will be the same 50/50 (approx) new work. He's regime is clearly ending very strongly in commercial terms On indu, the kiln thing was a storm in a teacup really, no one really cared after a few months. The Jewish film stuff was more of an issue but that's all in the past now as well Commercially and artistically, she's done well at the Kilm, I'm sure she'll do well at the NT Not ‘in the past’ for everyone. Looking back from where we are now, the Tricycle refusal to host the Israeli film festival was somewhat of a canary in the mine, wasn’t it? Institutions are under pressure to cut ties with all kinds of people, things, issues and the NT will come under pressure in just the same way. Maybe being in the middle of extensive dental treatment is dampening my spirits but I am not optimistic, not at all. |
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Post by zahidf on Dec 13, 2023 12:25:02 GMT
Last year, national has had a whole load of successes which have transferred to the west end or about to transfer. Dear england, motive and the Cue, crucible, e.t.c. I assume alba and the witches will be the same 50/50 (approx) new work. He's regime is clearly ending very strongly in commercial terms On indu, the kiln thing was a storm in a teacup really, no one really cared after a few months. The Jewish film stuff was more of an issue but that's all in the past now as well Commercially and artistically, she's done well at the Kilm, I'm sure she'll do well at the NT Not ‘in the past’ for everyone. Looking back from where we are now, the Tricycle refusal to host the Israeli film festival was somewhat of a canary in the mine, wasn’t it? Institutions are under pressure to cut ties with all kinds of people, things, issues and the NT will come under pressure in just the same way. Maybe being in the middle of extensive dental treatment is dampening my spirits but I am not optimistic, not at all. From the article, it seems they wanted the festival there but without Israeli govt involvement. They even offered to replace the funding. It was a board decision, not hers alone anyway. And the NT already has that pressure. |
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Post by punxsutawney on Dec 13, 2023 13:52:12 GMT
Not ‘in the past’ for everyone. Looking back from where we are now, the Tricycle refusal to host the Israeli film festival was somewhat of a canary in the mine, wasn’t it? Institutions are under pressure to cut ties with all kinds of people, things, issues and the NT will come under pressure in just the same way. Maybe being in the middle of extensive dental treatment is dampening my spirits but I am not optimistic, not at all. From the article, it seems they wanted the festival there but without Israeli govt involvement. They even offered to replace the funding. It was a board decision, not hers alone anyway. And the NT already has that pressure. Agreed - if they declined it because of some perceived link with Israel, it would be unacceptable. Choosing not to host it when it is funded by the Israeli embassy is a justifiable decision and shouldn't be classed as disqualifying. |
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Post by cartoonman on Dec 13, 2023 21:02:33 GMT
I agree.
also...I saw Gandhi's assassin and thought it was one of the best shows I have seen. I also saw Kerry Jackson and enjoyed that very much so I have high hopes. I would love to see West Side Story at the NT.
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Post by nicolaa on Dec 14, 2023 12:58:49 GMT
Snowflakes.
No one is forcing them to go, if they don't like the show, writer, funder etc then just don't go rather than forcing your views down the throats of others and trying to cancel entertainment.
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Post by parsley1 on Dec 14, 2023 22:14:34 GMT
Oh dear
What a poor appointment
She ain’t no Nick or Trevor
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Post by Stephen on Dec 14, 2023 23:37:57 GMT
Having worked in several theatre which recently re-appointed artistic directors I can honestly say that Indhu is a committed, passionate and generous person. She knew everyone at the Kiln by name, would always chat and buy you a drink at the bar. Not something I can say about other artistic directors I've had the 'pleasure' to work alongside.
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Post by theatresellers on Dec 31, 2023 17:52:51 GMT
The press release for the Nationals new artistic director said she was slated to start in Spring 2025. However, looking at the website for the Kiln, Indhu Rubasingham is no loner listed as an artistic director. Maybe she will start earlier at the National.
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Post by Jon on Dec 31, 2023 18:52:32 GMT
The press release for the Nationals new artistic director said she was slated to start in Spring 2025. However, looking at the website for the Kiln, Indhu Rubasingham is no loner listed as an artistic director. Maybe she will start earlier at the National. I would imagine she has to plan her first season first, the NT press release mentioned that she's joining as Director Designate in Spring 2024. |
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Post by Dave B on Jan 23, 2024 10:24:36 GMT
Interesting, no Coriolanus in today's announcement.
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Post by bordeaux on Jan 23, 2024 10:53:23 GMT
Interesting, no Coriolanus in today's announcement. It's a somewhat underwhelming one too: one adaptation of a TV programme, one adaptation of a novel, one interesting and surprising revival, and a new play that sounds a bit soapy (genial...likeable but lumpy according to the NYT). |
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Post by Rory on Jan 23, 2024 11:07:40 GMT
A very short run for Boys from the Blackstuff, maybe around 21 performances only. I see it's a co-pro with Royal Court Liverpool and Bill Kenwright Ltd. I could imagine an immediate transfer to the Haymarket between June and September.
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Post by Jan on Jan 23, 2024 11:38:55 GMT
2 American plays out of 4 announced. Their obsession with USA is baffling. "Things are heating up in Memphis as the annual Hot Wing Festival rolls into town." Who cares ?
Coriolanus notable by its absence as has been noted.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 23, 2024 13:00:24 GMT
A very short run for Boys from the Blackstuff, maybe around 21 performances only. I see it's a co-pro with Royal Court Liverpool and Bill Kenwright Ltd. I could imagine an immediate transfer to the Haymarket between June and September. It's brilliantly done with all the main scenes from the programme. James Graham is a brilliant writer. I'll see if I can catch this again |
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