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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 4, 2021 23:03:57 GMT
What was the really rude bit? I couldn't work it out. I was expecting Ellie to go this week. What I didn't get was the excessive anger towards Ellie. She made a choice. Awhora would have bombed with that act no matter where she went. Similarly Lawrence was always going to be safe on this challenge. The lipsync was clearly won by Awhora. Tayce fell back on rolling around rather than living the lyrics. Hey ho. Totally disagree about A'Whora winning the lip sync. She went too emotional and messy with it, the song isn't really about baring it all to me, the vocals are much more controlled than that and I thought Tayce embodied that more throughout though I also didn't like the rolling around on the floor. But yes the anger over the order was totally blown out of proportion. If you bomb, you bomb no matter where you're placed in the line-up so who cares when you're on, just be funny. Oh and the really rude bit wasn't all that rude compared to most jokes on Drag Race, just about certain gaping orifices... Not sure why it was bleeped but honestly it worked in her favour because it lost some of the humour without the bleeps.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 5, 2021 0:51:25 GMT
The fact Bimini was in the first lip sync challenge and she’s been constantly evolving and just being really damn nice - genuine. She’s now my favourite out of the drag queens for S2!!!
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Post by BoOverall on Mar 5, 2021 7:05:22 GMT
Have gone from really not warming to Bimini to totally loving her and excited to see what she turns out each week. My favourite now, with Lawrence. Quite liked A'Whora in terms of looks but for me a “look queen” alone - and I don’t think she is much more than that - is just not good enough. And the whining, petulance and perpetual vacancy had worn very thin for me.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 6, 2021 7:50:48 GMT
I’m really tired of Lawrence inserting himself into every situation. He had no axe to grind about where he was put in the stand up running order so back off, bitch! He was even doing it in the lipsync, stood at the back trying to pull focus. Can’t stand him.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 12, 2021 8:31:09 GMT
It's Biminis to lose at this point, she's winning all the challenges, getting the best comments and has been on the biggest journey..........which really rather makes me think it's too obvious and not going to happen. But it really should.
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Mar 12, 2021 20:49:05 GMT
SECONDED. But then again a plus size drag queen would be brilliant too. I think Bimini is very subtle in what she does. WHO KNOWS? All worthy in very different ways.
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Post by cherokee on Mar 12, 2021 22:16:35 GMT
I thought the lip sync was close but I didn't see the point of the double save. Ellie clearly isn't going to win. And I do hope Lawrence doesn't. He's such a moaner.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 18, 2021 20:16:29 GMT
I really think this could have been a perfect season of Drag Race but they stumbled with this finale for me. I wanted Bimini to win (and I think with the edit everyone got it makes the most sense and is the most satisfying conclusion to everyone's storylines) but even if she had there were issues with this episode.
The mixing on the performance track was really awful. The vocals were thin and flat against a really loud backing track and the dead air between verses just felt really awkward. The choreo was also not very impressive or interesting for the most part outside of Bimini and Tayce and the audio was out of sync with the video at first. I also kind of wish the final lip sync had just been Bimini and Lawrence. Neither Tayce or Ellie really had a chance at that point so sending just 1 off felt a little unfair to Ellie (and makes the double save last week entirely pointless) and having 3 lip sync on that stage always gets crowded so any opportunity you have to avoid that should be taken.
Overall still an above average season of Drag Race by far but a disappointing finale prevents it from reaching the upper echelon with the likes of AS2 and season 5.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 18, 2021 20:39:50 GMT
I am happy with the outcome. Of the final 4, she is the one I would pay to see live.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Mar 19, 2021 10:32:25 GMT
That was my top two, so I was happy with either winning bit I do think it should have probably been Bimini. I suppose you could say that she only really turned up after the break and that Lawrence was quite consistent through the whole thing, but still it for me would have been a better journey for the show for Bimini to win. But as I say, either is a good result.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 19, 2021 13:42:28 GMT
Bimini was just not right in the final lipsync. She took the song in a very angry direction whereas tonally it has been about being upbeat in the face of adversity.
The cossack dance was also out of place.
I would have put her third in that particular performance.
Lawrence winning felt right on the night. A more complete package.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 19, 2021 16:27:07 GMT
I think we’ve all seen massive favouritism towards Lawrence from the start. Ru obviously loves her and as we see every time, its Ru’s show and she gets to choose. Bimini will do just fine, they all will.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 19, 2021 17:17:49 GMT
Bimini was just not right in the final lipsync. She took the song in a very angry direction whereas tonally it has been about being upbeat in the face of adversity. The cossack dance was also out of place. I would have put her third in that particular performance. Lawrence winning felt right on the night. A more complete package. As much as I wanted Bimini to win I actually mostly agree with you here (though I don't know if Lawrence was any better for me, he felt one note). To me Tayce won the episode hands down between the lip sync and the main stage performance which was electric, but there was no way she would win, this was definitely a two horse race.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 19, 2021 17:28:28 GMT
I wish Tayce would connect her lipsync performances to the content of the lyrics more consistently. She falls back on throwing herself around and a gym routine. I know that is a very US approach and we see it a lot on the US show.
But I want to see a queen living the song, showing that she gets the tone and meaning. Sometimes Tayce does that. But too often we get generic drag dance.
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Post by drowseychap on Mar 20, 2021 2:21:45 GMT
I agree with so many of the comments to the lypsync battles they are very much the same each week ..... and often the performance doesn’t convey them tone of the song etc ... it’s all kicks drops rolling around on the floor etc etc yawn yawn .... many of them think because they watch makeup tutorial on you tube and watched every season of drag race .... they know everything and invented drag It’s drag race U.K. and should show more of the talented performers we have in this country I remember way back in the mid 90s seeing my first drag show in USA in a vey famous drag bar it was rammed. Full to the rafters lasted 3 hours one by one they would come on yep they looked good expensive wigs etc etc but each one just came out and mimed to a song ... never been so bored in my life ... no comedy ? No real talent no act ... the local crowd went mad for them ? I sat there and thought give me David dale , titti la camp . Dockyard Doris , and the likes anyday 👍
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 1:12:59 GMT
I thought Bimini had it but that lipsync was terrible.
Tayce didn’t deserve top three. He’s long and lanky and reminds them of a catwalk model: that’s it, that’s his gig.
For 21 Ellie did amazing and should have got top 3 out of those four.
I loved Laurence, he had a journey and really struggled. Like a lot of the comedy queens the pressure to be funny was an obstacle.
I loved Bimini, the comedy, the fashion and the grotesque.
I’m happy her and Laurence were top two and I don’t mind after that.
Laurence and Ellie really represented Scotland well though, they were very polished for Queens that don’t really have a drag scene where they are from. I think that’s what they said something about £15 for performing.
The bug of the season was Ahora and Laurence meltdowns over Ellie’s placing of the comedy.
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Post by frosty on Mar 23, 2021 18:22:28 GMT
I remember way back in the mid 90s seeing my first drag show in USA in a vey famous drag bar it was rammed. Full to the rafters lasted 3 hours one by one they would come on yep they looked good expensive wigs etc etc but each one just came out and mimed to a song ... never been so bored in my life ... no comedy ? No real talent no act ... the local crowd went mad for them ? I sat there and thought give me David dale , titti la camp . Dockyard Doris , and the likes anyday 👍 This! The first drag show I saw was in Vegas in the 90s and I was so shocked that all they did was lip sync. Very unimpressed, but that’s the difference between UK and US drag. As Lola Lasagne said, it’s all very well coming out and looking fabulous, but what are you going to do for the other 59 minutes? You’ve got to have an act.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 23, 2021 19:00:39 GMT
I think if there's impressive dancing to go along with it then lip-syncing is good enough. Just look at some of the old clips of Tamisha Iman that were circulating while she was on the show, or her drag daughter who did the stunt dropping down from the ceiling (and the rest of that performance is strong enough on its own)! Sounds like you just saw some poor quality routines unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 12:14:48 GMT
I think if there's impressive dancing to go along with it then lip-syncing is good enough. Just look at some of the old clips of Tamisha Iman that were circulating while she was on the show, or her drag daughter who did the stunt dropping down from the ceiling (and the rest of that performance is strong enough on its own)! Sounds like you just saw some poor quality routines unfortunately. I grew up with Liliy Savage, Lypsinka and the likes. Lypsinka used lip synching but in such a unique way, that was intelligent and political. Nowadays anyone can throw on a wig and lip synch. While these acts can be fun, I find the scene saturated by Queen's who look great and can lip sync. Give them a mic and they would put you to sleep. The problem I have is they literally just take the song at face value and imitate the artist. There is no creativity akin to Fanny Brice and the baby bump in Funny Girl. I want more like Bianca Del Rio, Sherry Vine and Lady Bunny and the likes.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 25, 2021 13:16:04 GMT
I see the U.K. cast are on tour at ATG venues later this year, including the Palace MCR. Which is fine, good luck to them. I won’t be going because I don’t think drag translates that well to big theatres.. These queens are used to playing to a couple of hundred people in a club, I don’t think you can automatically assume that being able to do that means you can command the stage of a thousand seat theatre. .
When I saw Bianca she was in a show with Lady Bunny, Sherry Vine and Jackie Beat. Four consummate professionals and legends of drag, and even so they and their show looked very very small.
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 25, 2021 15:40:14 GMT
I think if there's impressive dancing to go along with it then lip-syncing is good enough. Just look at some of the old clips of Tamisha Iman that were circulating while she was on the show, or her drag daughter who did the stunt dropping down from the ceiling (and the rest of that performance is strong enough on its own)! Sounds like you just saw some poor quality routines unfortunately. I grew up with Liliy Savage, Lypsinka and the likes. Lypsinka used lip synching but in such a unique way, that was intelligent and political. Nowadays anyone can throw on a wig and lip synch. While these acts can be fun, I find the scene saturated by Queen's who look great and can lip sync. Give them a mic and they would put you to sleep. The problem I have is they literally just take the song at face value and imitate the artist. There is no creativity akin to Fanny Brice and the baby bump in Funny Girl. I want more like Bianca Del Rio, Sherry Vine and Lady Bunny and the likes. Oh no totally I just read the comments as dismissing lip-syncing entirely or I guess maybe I should say misread, rereading them I see that wasn't really what you were getting at.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 17:43:41 GMT
I see the U.K. cast are on tour at ATG venues later this year, including the Palace MCR. Which is fine, good luck to them. I won’t be going because I don’t think drag translates that well to big theatres.. These queens are used to playing to a couple of hundred people in a club, I don’t think you can automatically assume that being able to do that means you can command the stage of a thousand seat theatre. . When I saw Bianca she was in a show with Lady Bunny, Sherry Vine and Jackie Beat. Four consummate professionals and legends of drag, and even so they and their show looked very very small. I saw Bianca in Manchester in a theatre (can't remember the name) and thought it worked. Sherry Vine was on the tour but we saw Moyra Dubois who also was very funny. Surrounded by straight girls. Edit: It's a dream of mine to get to San Francisco to see the Peaches Christ shows at the Castro Theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 17:45:22 GMT
I grew up with Liliy Savage, Lypsinka and the likes. Lypsinka used lip synching but in such a unique way, that was intelligent and political. Nowadays anyone can throw on a wig and lip synch. While these acts can be fun, I find the scene saturated by Queen's who look great and can lip sync. Give them a mic and they would put you to sleep. The problem I have is they literally just take the song at face value and imitate the artist. There is no creativity akin to Fanny Brice and the baby bump in Funny Girl. I want more like Bianca Del Rio, Sherry Vine and Lady Bunny and the likes. Oh no totally I just read the comments as dismissing lip-syncing entirely or I guess maybe I should say misread, rereading them I see that wasn't really what you were getting at. No, I genuinely love lip synching but I see it as a vehicle to something deeper. Like Britney mimes as Britney I don't need to see a Drag pretending to be Britney unless it's an impersonator. I hope that makes sense. I don't know if it does to me haha
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 23, 2022 11:35:49 GMT
Very sad to hear of the passing of Cherry Valentine.
A talented queen and taken far too young.
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