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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 3:02:23 GMT
Four Seasons Downtown is near great dining and shopping. But Mandarin Oriental is near the theatres and some great shopping and dining . Which one should I stay at? Four Seasons Downtown is cheaper
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 6:01:05 GMT
If these are the only two hotels you want to compare I would say it comes down to your comfort navigating the subways unless you plan on using Uber and Lyft all the time.
For Seasons is in a less touristy area with more local shops and things but you will need to take the subway to/fro the theatre district.
And of course other higher end (and/or simply very nice) hotels exist in other neighborhoods as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 6:49:38 GMT
If these are the only two hotels you want to compare I would say it comes down to your comfort navigating the subways unless you plan on using Uber and Lyft all the time. For Seasons is in a less touristy area with more local shops and things but you will need to take the subway to/fro the theatre district. And of course other higher end (and/or simply very nice) hotels exist in other neighborhoods as well. I know but they are the ones I love the most. Greenwhich looks also fine
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Post by Fleance on Oct 23, 2018 10:59:45 GMT
I live in New York, not too far from the Mandarin Oriental, which is right near Columbus Circle and Central Park. I like the Four Seasons Downtown neighborhood as well. An advantage of the Mandarin is that you can walk down to the theater district easily; and up to Lincoln Center, which is very near. The hotel is sort of between both of them.
When I go to the theater district and see all the tourists -- more than ever it seems -- I can't understand why they would stay in that overcrowded neighborhood. But the Mandarin is actually a bit north of the actual theater district, which makes it convenient, but not quite as hectic as Times Square. You can also walk up to the Upper West Side or across to the East Side which are nice residential neighborhoods with good restaurants that are not too touristy.
The downtown hotel is in an interesting neighborhood to walk around in, and easily accessible by subway (and bus and cab and Uber, though beware traffic!). Our subways are not as nice as London's Tube, but they're still a very fast way to get around. You can get up to the theater district really quickly. Tribeca is a nice neighborhood -- easy to walk to interesting sites, like the court houses and Chinatown; Greenwich Village (with the Public Theater and other off-Broadway/Fringe theaters); Wall Street/Financial District; etc. Lots of history. Park Row is actually where New York's theater district began (Park Theater) in the 1790s, although there are no remnants of it left today.
So you have two good, relatively posh, choices.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 11:37:37 GMT
Fleance can I please take advantage of your NY expertise and ask for eating recommendations for my trip next month (with apologies for hijacking the thread)? I'm staying at Pod 51 (E 51st between 2nd and 3rd) but will be travelling all over Manhattan and Brooklyn on different days so not tied to specific locations, though a recommendation near Lincoln Center would be useful as I'm seeing My Fair Lady one evening. I'm more concerned about finding fairly cheap and healthy food, as I'm on a diet and don't want to ruin it too much! Thanks so much!
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Post by Fleance on Oct 23, 2018 13:05:32 GMT
Fleance can I please take advantage of your NY expertise and ask for eating recommendations for my trip next month (with apologies for hijacking the thread)? I'm staying at Pod 51 (E 51st between 2nd and 3rd) but will be travelling all over Manhattan and Brooklyn on different days so not tied to specific locations, though a recommendation near Lincoln Center would be useful as I'm seeing My Fair Lady one evening. I'm more concerned about finding fairly cheap and healthy food, as I'm on a diet and don't want to ruin it too much! Thanks so much! I'll give it some thought and perhaps try to send you a message (if I can figure out how to do it, I'm new here). There are some decent and reasonable places slightly north of LC. But: The Lincoln Center neighborhood, where I live, doesn't really have affordable dine-in restaurants. It's all for captive audiences who are going to the shows in the various LC constituent theaters. If you were visiting in warmer weather, there are some nice take-aways; then you could sit and eat on Lincoln Center Plaza. There is an Atrium with indoor seating. I'm always looking for healthy options as well. This take-away has some good food. I think you can stand at a counter and eat; or take your food to the Rubenstein Atrium: info.diginn.com/upper-west-side-openingatrium.lincolncenter.orgI find that, for all the complaining I hear about food services on the South Bank in London, there are more affordable options there, than in the immediate Lincoln Center neighborhood. I often just get a sandwich at M&S/Waterloo Station, and eat at a table in the National lobby; or get something quick in The Kitchen, which is generally ok.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 13:53:40 GMT
If you're on the South Bank on the weekend, go to the food market behind Royal Festival Hall. I love it, I go pretty much every weekend, and have been known to plan which shows I'm going to book based on how quickly I can get to the market.
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Post by harrietcraig on Oct 23, 2018 15:24:19 GMT
Fleance can I please take advantage of your NY expertise and ask for eating recommendations for my trip next month (with apologies for hijacking the thread)? I'm staying at Pod 51 (E 51st between 2nd and 3rd) but will be travelling all over Manhattan and Brooklyn on different days so not tied to specific locations, though a recommendation near Lincoln Center would be useful as I'm seeing My Fair Lady one evening. I'm more concerned about finding fairly cheap and healthy food, as I'm on a diet and don't want to ruin it too much! Thanks so much! There's an Amy's Bread stand on the ground floor of the Performing Arts branch of the New York Public Library at Lincoln Center (the building wedged between the Metropolitan Opera house and the Vivian Beaumont Theater, behind the Calder stabile) that offers reasonably priced sandwiches (also delicious pastries, but we'll pretend I didn't mention them since you're on a diet). There are tables where you can sit and eat your sandwich, many of which are often occupied by people who are sitting there with their laptops, presumably taking advantage of the library's free WiFi. Since it's in the library, it's open only during library hours (10:30 to 6 on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday; 10:30 to 8 on Monday and Thursday), so it wouldn't do for dinner before My Fair Lady unless your performance is on a Thursday, but it's a good place for lunch if you find yourself in the Lincoln Center neighborhood during the week. There are also numerous Prets all over Manhattan where you can get a variety of healthy salads.
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Post by lucyhoneychurch on Oct 23, 2018 15:59:33 GMT
FYI, the Amy's Bread Cafe closes at 6pm, even when the library is open late. Two similar options are Orwashers (Amsterdam and 80th) or Bouchon Bakery (Time Warner Center at Columbus Circle). There's also a Whole Foods at the Time Warner Center, with cafe seating. But, you might want to look for restaurants on 9th Ave in the West 40s and 50s. There's some more reasonable priced food options (waiter service and counter service), and it's a 15 minute walk/5 min subway to Lincoln Center.
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Post by Fleance on Oct 23, 2018 16:59:38 GMT
There's a Le Pain Quotidien across Broadway from LC; and Indie Food and Wine on 65th Street (it's sort of part of LC Film Society); sandwiches and stuff like that, but so-so and crowded. Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by "fairly cheap"?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 9:25:07 GMT
I have stayed at Mandarin Oriental. I am just looking for alternatives. To get a larger room upgrade its like 3 times the price of base room. All the other upgrades a literally views. I have eaten at per se and jean Georges , Masa in TWC. Its a nice shopping mall with whole foods. But Some of the dining near the souther end like momofuku ko , eleven Madison park, jungsik intrigues me.
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Post by Fleance on Oct 24, 2018 12:58:52 GMT
I have stayed at Mandarin Oriental. I am just looking for alternatives. To get a larger room upgrade its like 3 times the price of base room. All the other upgrades a literally views. I have eaten at per se and jean Georges , Masa in TWC. Its a nice shopping mall with whole foods. But Some of the dining near the souther end like momofuku ko , eleven Madison park, jungsik intrigues me. Another nice restaurant in lower Manhattan is Le Coucou. One of my favorites at the moment. lecoucou.com
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 15:00:39 GMT
Perhaps you could clarify what you mean by "fairly cheap"? [/font][/quote] It's been a while since I've been to NY so I don't know the going rate for meals really, but in London I don't go to high end restaurants often (especially not on my own, and this is a solo trip), and I wouldn't usually spend more than £20-25 total for a main and drink, which probably works out at about $30. I appreciate I'll probably end up spending more in NY though due to the insane amount of taxes, but I don't want to be wasting time and money on expensive dinners when I could be grabbing something cheap and wholesome in a local place and spending time wandering the city instead of sitting in a fancy restaurant... I am willing to pay more on Thanksgiving though, given most places seem to do set menus.
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Post by Fleance on Oct 24, 2018 18:53:53 GMT
It's been a while since I've been to NY so I don't know the going rate for meals really, but in London I don't go to high end restaurants often (especially not on my own, and this is a solo trip), and I wouldn't usually spend more than £20-25 total for a main and drink, which probably works out at about $30. I appreciate I'll probably end up spending more in NY though due to the insane amount of taxes, but I don't want to be wasting time and money on expensive dinners when I could be grabbing something cheap and wholesome in a local place and spending time wandering the city instead of sitting in a fancy restaurant... I am willing to pay more on Thanksgiving though, given most places seem to do set menus.[/quote]
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Post by Fleance on Oct 24, 2018 18:56:30 GMT
It's been a while since I've been to NY so I don't know the going rate for meals really, but in London I don't go to high end restaurants often (especially not on my own, and this is a solo trip), and I wouldn't usually spend more than £20-25 total for a main and drink, which probably works out at about $30. I appreciate I'll probably end up spending more in NY though due to the insane amount of taxes, but I don't want to be wasting time and money on expensive dinners when I could be grabbing something cheap and wholesome in a local place and spending time wandering the city instead of sitting in a fancy restaurant... I am willing to pay more on Thanksgiving though, given most places seem to do set menus. That gives you many more possibilities, you won't be limited to Pret in NY. There are nice places you can go to in your price range, more to come.
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Post by 49thand8th on Oct 25, 2018 16:23:23 GMT
It's been a while since I've been to NY so I don't know the going rate for meals really, but in London I don't go to high end restaurants often (especially not on my own, and this is a solo trip), and I wouldn't usually spend more than £20-25 total for a main and drink, which probably works out at about $30. I appreciate I'll probably end up spending more in NY though due to the insane amount of taxes, but I don't want to be wasting time and money on expensive dinners when I could be grabbing something cheap and wholesome in a local place and spending time wandering the city instead of sitting in a fancy restaurant... I am willing to pay more on Thanksgiving though, given most places seem to do set menus. If you want something quick and inexpensive along the lines of Pret, but not Pret, you have: Otto's Tacos Xi'an Famous Foods Curry-Ya Dig Inn Sophie's Cuban Indikitch The entire selection at Turnstyle underground at Columbus Circle Toasties Num Pang Kati Roll Company Maoz All of these are in (or within walking distance of) the theatre district.
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