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Post by kathryn on Sept 26, 2018 18:43:51 GMT
Yes, perhaps we should park Corden (can you tell I’ve been in lots of meetings this week?!).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 18:50:24 GMT
Yes, perhaps we should park Corden (can you tell I’ve been in lots of meetings this week?!). excellent Carpool reference though
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Post by welsh_tenor on Sept 26, 2018 19:15:43 GMT
[There's still a difference between Beverley and Rachel, because Rachel isn't a celeb. And Ms Tucker is much more talented... IMHO
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 19:43:45 GMT
Isn't it all just about being a snob really? Everyone loves to look down on someone else. I do it with the great unwashed ALL the time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 19:50:48 GMT
Everyone loves to look down on someone else. Absolutely. That's why at the theatre I always make a point of sitting right at the back of the balcony. Occasionally I'll take a stepladder.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 19:59:11 GMT
Amanda Holden blurs the line because she is likely cast in things like Cinderella or Stepping Out because she puts bums on seats but at the same time, she is a capable actress. You obviously didn't see Thoroughly Modern Millie.
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Post by Tibidabo on Sept 26, 2018 21:34:58 GMT
and putting a celebrity into a panto "just because" isn't stunt casting - it's tradition Ah, but is it? When panto began back in the 16th century I think it might be true to suggest that there were no instantly recognisable celebs, so if it is tradition then it's a recent one. Which is a bit of an oxymoron.🤔🧐
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 21:49:09 GMT
Stunt casting is probably no longer stunt casting once the celebrity has proven themselves and their commitment to the craft. Look at Beverley Knight and Sarah Harding - one has made a career out of it whereas the other made headlines.
There is nothing wrong with having fame that allows bums to end up on seats, but it’s depends on why people come to see the production: did people really go to see Up For Grabs, or did they go to see Madonna?
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Post by kathryn on Sept 26, 2018 22:47:55 GMT
I think it might be true to suggest that there were no instantly recognisable celebs, so if it is tradition then it's a recent one. Which is a bit of an oxymoron.🤔🧐 As the saying goes: “Once is an incident; twice is a trend; thrice is a tradition”
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 8:08:14 GMT
Everyone loves to look down on someone else. Absolutely. That's why at the theatre I always make a point of sitting right at the back of the balcony. Occasionally I'll take a stepladder. Get a job as a follow spot op theres no higher position to look down on others from within the theatre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 10:42:12 GMT
As the saying goes: “Once is an incident; twice is a trend; thrice is a tradition” That's what I keep saying to Tom Bateman but he just keeps on calling the police.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 13:00:45 GMT
When panto began back in the 16th century I think it might be true to suggest that there were no instantly recognisable celebs Joey Grimaldi.
Yes, ever since panto began, there were well-known people in the cast, sometimes joining the company for the one production. Oh no they didn’t...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 13:48:56 GMT
Lots of pop stars have moved from recording artists and gone on and had a successful career in musicals like a lot of the names mentioned above. Teen Angel in Grease has been played by a number of "names" in recent years. Previously it was the same guy who played Vince Fontaine or maybe both roles were cast in bigger productions. Jimmy Osmond had done musicals and was well known so I'd call it name casting. Robin Cousins an Olympic skater who has done some stage work once played the role so that is possibly more stunt casting.
Peter Andre I don't think has done stage work but is a singer with a 25 odd year career so going on and doing one number is hardly a stretch.
Stunt casting in my mind would be taking someone who isn't a performer as such and putting them in a featured role. Andrew Flintoff in Fat Friends the musical is the most recent example I could think of this.
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Post by Tibidabo on Sept 27, 2018 15:04:57 GMT
When panto began back in the 16th century I think it might be true to suggest that there were no instantly recognisable celebs Joey Grimaldi.
Yes, ever since panto began, there were well-known people in the cast, sometimes joining the company for the one production. You throw Joey at me Monkey?🤡 Tch. I shall have to graciously concede checkmate to you, with the proviso that you force accompany BurlyBeaR to a panto of your choice, containing a stuntly cast member, this Christmas. (Palladium doesn't count.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 15:10:44 GMT
I’m looking forward to Katie Price’s Cleopatra and to Gemma Collins’ Falstaff in the cross casting version of Henry IV pt I.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 27, 2018 15:59:39 GMT
Joey Grimaldi.
Yes, ever since panto began, there were well-known people in the cast, sometimes joining the company for the one production. You throw Joey at me Monkey?🤡 Tch. I shall have to graciously concede checkmate to you, with the proviso that you force accompany BurlyBeaR to a panto of your choice, containing a stuntly cast member, this Christmas. (Palladium doesn't count.) No thanks 😑
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Post by sherriebythesea on Sept 27, 2018 16:08:41 GMT
Weirdly, I came on here during a 'break' from writing about...this very thing. So in my case 'debating' how much casting Andrew Garfield in Angels was, if not stunt casting then 'star casting' with a view to selling tickets (likewise Lane, who while not stunt casting is certainly a name you use to sell tickets) AND how this differs between actual 'stunt casting' I'm a theatre newbie and Andrew Garfield being in Angels was not a consideration in me getting tickets. In fact I rather felt "ugh" about it. But it was amazing. I never saw Andrew Garfield, Spidey or whoever on the stage. I only saw, heard, commiserated and cried for Prior.
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Post by Tibidabo on Sept 27, 2018 18:18:00 GMT
What if I came too and sat between you? Did I just say that out loud?🤐
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 27, 2018 18:20:47 GMT
It’s not the monkey, I’d go with him to the ends of the earth 🙂. It’s the Panto 😝
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Post by Tibidabo on Sept 27, 2018 18:23:12 GMT
It’s not the monkey, I’d go with him to the ends of the earth 🙂. It’s the Panto 😝 Now I'm really sobbing...😭
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 20:50:51 GMT
It’s not the monkey, I’d go with him to the ends of the earth 🙂. It’s the Panto 😝 Now I'm really sobbing...😭 Who knew Stunt casting and Panto could bring out such love 💖
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 27, 2018 21:41:46 GMT
Let’s not make it cheap and tawdry eh. The bananameister knows how I feel about things. I’ve used his website www.theatremonkey.com THREE times today ffs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 7:40:30 GMT
Weirdly, I came on here during a 'break' from writing about...this very thing. So in my case 'debating' how much casting Andrew Garfield in Angels was, if not stunt casting then 'star casting' with a view to selling tickets (likewise Lane, who while not stunt casting is certainly a name you use to sell tickets) AND how this differs between actual 'stunt casting' I'm a theatre newbie and Andrew Garfield being in Angels was not a consideration in me getting tickets. In fact I rather felt "ugh" about it. But it was amazing. I never saw Andrew Garfield, Spidey or whoever on the stage. I only saw, heard, commiserated and cried for Prior. Same in fact, (I didn't ugh I just went 'oh who is he now?') In fact until someone pointed out I'd taught Never Let me Go and therefore watched the film, I was convinced I'd never seen the man in anything. I did ugh at Nathan Lane but that's my issue...
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