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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 16:33:14 GMT
It's that attitude "Why would they turn down work" Come on though @parsley it's not for actors to be quality controlling what ends up on the stage is it by refusing to appear in sh*t though is it. This is interesting Point BB An experienced actor Should be able to see the scope of the material from a wider perspective And not just think of it as all the same work |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 16:34:28 GMT
It's that attitude "Why would they turn down work" That has lead to a parade of awful shows in the first place Mainly musicals Which have failed to run 12 months Which we knew would never be a success from before they even opened Have had to paper and discount Despite positive press reviews Practically sycophantic in some cases And marketing/ appearing on TV shows to plug themselves Half empty at best Because NO ONE wants to see the show to start with If they are happy limping from one flop to the next Amazing for them But when people fail to turn up and the show makes a loss It can't be that rewarding from them Depends how desperate they are for work and how low they are prepared to drop their standards to appear in these awful shows As I said Not all actors grab the first thing they are offered Regardless of its quality If you want me to lie or pretend somehow in order to further massage the egos and fuel the greed of producers who are already deluded and out of touch I won't do it! Same situation with Bend it though wasn't it.... The cast completed their 12 months contract for that show From rehearsals in March 2015 To when it closed in March 2016 |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 16:35:06 GMT
Come on though @parsley it's not for actors to be quality controlling what ends up on the stage is it by refusing to appear in sh*t though is it. This is interesting Point BB An experienced actor Should be able to see the scope of the material from a wider perspective And not just think of it as all the same work Tell that to their bank account! |
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Post by zak97 on May 27, 2017 17:10:41 GMT
Announcement by Claire Moore after the matinee that I read of collecting for Bloodeidr today, they are collecting for Manchester. Very nice move.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 27, 2017 19:07:19 GMT
Come on though @parsley it's not for actors to be quality controlling what ends up on the stage is it by refusing to appear in sh*t though is it. This is interesting Point BB An experienced actor Should be able to see the scope of the material from a wider perspective And not just think of it as all the same work It's for investors and producers to decide what ends up on stage. Actors might choose to be selective (although given the lack of work I suspect 90% are willing to do anything offered) but if it was a choice between being in The Girls or being unemployed I would be in the show and so would you if you weren't in a very highly paid and privileged position in the NHS. Ivory towers... etc |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 20:33:33 GMT
Come on though @parsley it's not for actors to be quality controlling what ends up on the stage is it by refusing to appear in sh*t though is it. This is interesting Point BB An experienced actor Should be able to see the scope of the material from a wider perspective And not just think of it as all the same work An actor needs to pay the bills like anyone else regardless of their level of experience. Unless you're going to offer to pay all their bills so they can have artistic freedom? Your attitude is ridiculously insensitive and ignores the real world situation many performers are in. It's not clever and it's not funny, grow up. |
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Post by zak97 on May 28, 2017 8:27:54 GMT
Debbie Chazen is suggesting, on Twitter, that she hopes to play Ruth on the tour.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:41:21 GMT
I've booked again for the final performance, with a view to go again between now and then.
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Post by Steve on May 28, 2017 11:27:01 GMT
I think this was a decent show that was marketed terribly. Constantly using Gary Barlow and large choirs rather than showcasing the humour and heart that this has. It completely took away from what made this show great which was that core group of women. What was marketed to me just didn't appeal to me at all and it wasn't until some friends came back with some good feedback that I decided to go. I went in with very low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. I'm not surprised that it's closing but I do think it is a shame. The title was naff and wrong from the start. Why the hell didn't they just call it Calendar Girls - The Musical? Was it a rights issue or did they really think marketing the same story with a different title was going to work? Agree about the marketing. Personally, I really liked the show, and if the tour comes anywhere near me, I might even see it again. But Gary Barlow wasn't in this show. Constant Gary Barlow marketing made the whole thing feel like an extended Gary Barlow concert, which not even the majority of "Take That" fans would bother to attend, since the appeal of Barlow is mostly as part of that band, not as a solo act. And wasting the brand recognition of "Calendar Girls" was utterly misconceived. It made something my mum would want to see sound like a burlesque show. |
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Post by zak97 on May 28, 2017 11:36:08 GMT
I'm guessing it wasn't 'Calendar Girls The Musical' because they wanted to try and produce something creatively that wasn't an absolute carbon copy of Calendar Girls, but a variation. A big mistake with hindsight it would seem.
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Post by Seriously on May 28, 2017 16:15:35 GMT
Same situation with Bend it though wasn't it.... The cast completed their 12 months contract for that show From rehearsals in March 2015 To when it closed in March 2016 But you said "Which have failed to run 12 months". The run of a show doesn't include rehearsals does it? That recent production of "Shout" only did 2 performances. With rehearsals it didn't "run" for a month! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 16:18:47 GMT
The cast completed their 12 months contract for that show From rehearsals in March 2015 To when it closed in March 2016 But you said "Which have failed to run 12 months". The run of a show doesn't include rehearsals does it? That recent production of "Shout" only did 2 performances. With rehearsals it didn't "run" for a month! Nope, the run of a show generally includes the run from opening night, and then the preview period is just "from previews".
So, Bend It Like Beckham ran: June 24, 2015 - March 05, 2016, with previews from May 15, 2015.
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Post by Seriously on May 28, 2017 16:23:10 GMT
So Parsley, did Bland It Like Beckham have a 1 month run at the Jerwood Rehearsal rooms?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 16:46:01 GMT
The cast completed their 12 months contract for that show From rehearsals in March 2015 To when it closed in March 2016 But you said "Which have failed to run 12 months". The run of a show doesn't include rehearsals does it? That recent production of "Shout" only did 2 performances. With rehearsals it didn't "run" for a month! It ran a lot longer than The Girls That I do know |
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Post by Seriously on May 28, 2017 16:49:35 GMT
That's because "The Girls" didn't
smash a coconut in the street for good luck.
And they didn't have half a million Sikhs
to get behind it because it was
culturally significant to them.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 18:55:03 GMT
So pleasing when rubbish gets cleared out of the WE
Like getting really stubborn skids out
In the laundry
Takes time
But worth the wait
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:04:34 GMT
Saw this, this afternoon. Overall very disappointing, although it did get better and definitely funnier in the second half. Songs verged on the bland side and the musical being really about the emotive subject of cancer, couldn't find an emotional pull you in. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:14:06 GMT
Saw this, this afternoon. Overall very disappointing, although it did get better and definitely funnier in the second half. Songs verged on the bland side and the musical being really about the emotive subject of cancer, couldn't find an emotional pull you in. This post was made well ahead of it coming to London To bring a show into the WE Despite misgivings In the current economic climate Blindly and out of self obsessed greed Ignoring the fact no one wants to actually see it Will never have favourable outcome for anyone It will be a nice blow to Gary Barlow Added to Finding Neverland And now The Girls I wonder which producer will be stupid enough to work with him again You never know Could be third time lucky And The Band may be eyeing up Drury Lane for a 5 year tenure When we have reached a situation where people are proffering the purpose of particularly (musical) theatre Is to keep people in employment It explains why so many shows fail Would an author be pleased if they wrote a book and no one bought it? The measure of success in theatre is linked very closely to people seeing the end product and wanting to see it Perhaps if producers and actors thought more of their audiences And less of themselves Then who knows what? |
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Post by zak97 on May 28, 2017 19:17:06 GMT
I for one love The Girls and will be so sad to see it for the last time this week. It's not perfect, but the characters and stories are inspiring and uplifting, even if creatively it isn't ground breaking.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:17:25 GMT
I would rather see an empty theatre
Than have it filled with a show
No one wants to see
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:17:57 GMT
I for one love The Girls and will be so sad to see it for the last time this week. It's not perfect, but the characters and stories are inspiring and uplifting, even if creatively it isn't ground breaking. Perhaps they will film it? |
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Post by zak97 on May 28, 2017 19:18:21 GMT
I would rather see an empty theatre Than have it filled with a show No one wants to see I'd rather see actors get paid, rather than struggle for employment or be doing a job they are not passionate about. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:22:05 GMT
I would rather see an empty theatre Than have it filled with a show No one wants to see I'd rather see actors get paid, rather than struggle for employment or be doing a job they are not passionate about. It's a fine line But a famous actress once told me There is nothing worse than doing a bad show No one wants to see Just for the money And she also blessed my early departures Indicating an actor would never want an audience member to suffer in silence for fear of being impolite |
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Post by zak97 on May 28, 2017 19:25:22 GMT
I'd rather see actors get paid, rather than struggle for employment or be doing a job they are not passionate about. It's a fine line But a famous actress once told me There is nothing worse than doing a bad show No one wants to see Just for the money And she also blessed my early departures Indicating an actor would never want an audience member to suffer in silence Yet it is evident that the cast genuinely love the show that they are in, that being 'The Girls'. Seen this video: ? When I went on Thursday Josh Benson (Tommo) was in the audience, despite being on holiday. The support he offered the cast showed what a caring unit it is. They clearly don't think it is a bad show, doing it just for the money. The cast clearly care about their characters, and the charity, Bloodwise, that they are supporting. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 0:01:09 GMT
I for one love The Girls and will be so sad to see it for the last time this week. It's not perfect, but the characters and stories are inspiring and uplifting, even if creatively it isn't ground breaking. I also really enjoyed it. Charming story and whilst the music for me isn't life changing, I enjoyed it. Actually think Barlow's musical stuff is much better than his latter day Take That stuff. |
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