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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 1, 2018 11:21:04 GMT
I’m sure we can all think of a few people who would fall into this category... sportsmen, pop stars, writers of bad musical theatre etc. I know the tax tax system is flawed and we would all like these legal “loopholes” to be closed but for whatever reason they haven’t been. So while that’s the case I don’t think anyone using them to avoid paying tax should be honoured with a gong. And yes, anyone can shoot holes in that, not least by mentioning how The Queen’s tax affairs are managed, but it just feels right to me. Mind you I’d scrap the whole damned thing anyway, apart from honours for normal working people who’ve done extraordinary things. The very thought of giving rich successful people prizes for being rich and successful makes me sick and I’ll be making this law when I am King 🤴😬 www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/01/uk-tax-avoiders-face-being-blocked-from-honours-list |
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Post by lynette on Sept 1, 2018 12:59:02 GMT
I think it is the civil servants gongs that annoy me most. They really are just doing their jobs. Celebrities at least take on charity work which they don’t have to I suppose. The system is largely based on recommendations.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 1, 2018 13:35:32 GMT
This is a slight irony to this being splashed by The Guardian given that their tax arrangements are very, very, very carefully managed via offshore trusts and the like.
They love to take the moral high ground whilst also pursuing a very aggressive tax management strategy of their own.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 1, 2018 17:31:53 GMT
They’re not being given prizes by the Queen though...
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 1, 2018 18:29:56 GMT
They’re not being given prizes by the Queen though... No - but they are pretending to be better than the people who are now being put on a blacklist |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 1, 2018 18:31:27 GMT
Good point. The whole thing is effed up. Just ban it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 19:28:53 GMT
I can't wait to get my damehood. I just hope HMRC don't notice how many times I've visited Panama in the last couple of years.
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Post by learfan on Sept 1, 2018 20:19:02 GMT
Anything that stops that prize eejit Beckham getting a knighthood is fine by me.
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 1, 2018 23:15:58 GMT
Why shouldn’t David Beckham get a gong and Ken Dodd did?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 2, 2018 8:33:39 GMT
There’s an amnesty after three years. If the person can show that they’ve been paying up after three years they becoming eligible for the gong. Ken Dodd’s tax shenanigans were decades ago.
I think people who live in other countries shouldn’t be eligible either. Ringo Star for example. If you want the gong, get over here and contribute to the eceonomy.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Sept 3, 2018 17:08:53 GMT
Why shouldn’t David Beckham get a gong and Ken Dodd did? Didn't do anything do deserve one? |
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Post by learfan on Sept 3, 2018 19:55:41 GMT
Why shouldn’t David Beckham get a gong and Ken Dodd did? Because he doesn't deserve one, obvious really. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Sept 3, 2018 20:21:14 GMT
Why does Ken Dodd get a knighthood who has a criminal record for tax evasion (which ultimately is theft from society) and should last for life, not three years and on top of that convicted for stalking, which is an heinous crime and you don’t get much lower than that. Than David Beckham who has no criminal record and in Singapore helped to win the Great Britians bid for the 2012 Olympics, which was amazingly successful, but also often vilified in the Daily Mail because he is precieved no to be intelligent?
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Post by kathryn on Sept 3, 2018 20:32:55 GMT
I think you misread some headlines. Ken Dodd was never convicted of stalking anyone - a woman was convicted of stalking him!
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Post by learfan on Sept 3, 2018 20:33:09 GMT
Why does Ken Dodd get a knighthood who has a criminal record for tax evasion (which ultimately is theft from society) and should last for life, not three years and on top of that convicted for stalking, which is an heinous crime and you don’t get much lower than that. Than David Beckham who has no criminal record and in Singapore helped to win the Great Britians bid for the 2012 Olympics, which was amazingly successful, but also often vilified in the Daily Mail because he is precieved no to be intelligent? Asked and answered |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:32:20 GMT
Why shouldn’t David Beckham get a gong and Ken Dodd did? Doddy was a legend, Beckham isn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 19:35:51 GMT
Doddy was also found "Not Guilty" of tax evasion as well. He always said there were no hard feelings, and whenever he was in town, the tax office used to send a car for him. He always managed to jump out of the way in time. Anyway, he also pointed out that when it started, income tax was one penny in the pound - he thought it still was. Anyway, it's called the "Inland Revenue" and he lived near the sea. Oh I miss you, Ken. Sir Ken is sadly missed. Why they had to even mention him in that report I don't know. He was an OBE several years before his Tax trial and was found not guilty so no honour was removed from him. He had to wait 35 years since getting his OBE before he got his Knighthood. |
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Post by joem on Sept 8, 2018 8:08:05 GMT
Why shouldn’t David Beckham get a gong and Ken Dodd did? I've never heard Beckham say anything remotely funny. |
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