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Post by lynette on Sept 29, 2018 22:55:38 GMT
What about The bloke who refuses to be executed? And Marianna? Sorry to be picky but I need to be prepared.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 29, 2018 22:59:03 GMT
Barnadine doesn't appear in the cast list - so I suspect that plot line has gone in order to get to 90 minutes
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Post by wannabedirector on Sept 29, 2018 23:01:19 GMT
What about The bloke who refuses to be executed? And Marianna? Sorry to be picky but I need to be prepared. The character that refuses to be executed is cut, as it that section of the storyline. As for Marianna she is in the first period dress half, and her role is replaced by that of Frederick in the second modern dress half. The idea that Marianna is bequeathed to Angelo and the trick him into sleeping with her rather than Isabella is all there, but she doesn’t have a great many lines. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 29, 2018 23:04:20 GMT
Marianna is a thankless part at the best of times.
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Post by wannabedirector on Sept 29, 2018 23:07:39 GMT
It’s probably just me, but in the second half when Marianna’s character and lines were passed on to Frederick it seems as if he had more lines, or maybe did a little more with them. Either way the character just seems to be a Shakespearean plot device.
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Post by lynette on Sept 30, 2018 13:44:52 GMT
The very best part cut, I mean one of the very best bits in all the canon when a guy refuses to bow to authority and they can do nothing about it. Shows up the hollowness of all totalitarian regimes in a farcical way and creates a wonderful moment. Oh well. I always say Shakespeare can take everything chucked at him.
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Post by Boob on Sept 30, 2018 14:19:55 GMT
wannabedirector - are you Josie Rourke?  |
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Post by Jan on Sept 30, 2018 14:22:47 GMT
Barnadine doesn't appear in the cast list - so I suspect that plot line has gone in order to get to 90 minutes Oh. That is one of my favourite characters. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 15:06:46 GMT
Wish I'd booked now. Comparing productions is always interesting and here you get to do it at the same performance.
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Post by theatrelover123 on Sept 30, 2018 16:00:10 GMT
They do the play twice? The whole play? Please clarify. Ta Yeah, in a revised, probably hugely cut, 90 minute version. Then the roles swap and the play is performed again but in modern dress. So is it each Act 90 minutes? Making the whole thing about 3 hours 15? |
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Post by wannabedirector on Sept 30, 2018 17:22:47 GMT
wannabedirector - are you Josie Rourke? Haha I wish! |
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Post by wannabedirector on Sept 30, 2018 17:24:05 GMT
Yeah, in a revised, probably hugely cut, 90 minute version. Then the roles swap and the play is performed again but in modern dress. So is it each Act 90 minutes? Making the whole thing about 3 hours 15? Yep exactly, came to a little bit less then that yesterday, was out by 10:35 ish so each act is a tiny bit less then 90 minutes. The signs in the foyer said 3 hours 10 minutes including interval but that seems a little generous. |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Sept 30, 2018 17:30:53 GMT
So is it each Act 90 minutes? Making the whole thing about 3 hours 15? Yep exactly, came to a little bit less then that yesterday, was out by 10:35 ish so each act is a tiny bit less then 90 minutes. The signs in the foyer said 3 hours 10 minutes including interval but that seems a little generous. Oh there's just no need for that |
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Post by argon on Sept 30, 2018 21:05:46 GMT
The entire play is retold again, which I didn’t find repetitive at all, although I can see that some might see it that way. I saw it that way, I had a thought I was in Punxsutawney minus Bill Murray. I would have preferred to have seen the second version ( H Atwell plays the Deputy) but as a full version of the play. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 23:33:06 GMT
I saw this on Monday
And left at the interval
Jack Lowden was horrific
The text is so truncated it’s ridiculous
Hayley Atwell is good
Everyone else in it is a no one in terms of both reputation and acting talent
The staging is dull
I much preferred
The M4M
At Young Vic
And the all time best
Complicite at the NT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 0:03:49 GMT
Had never seen Measure for Measure before, now I’ve seen it twice in one evening! The characters of Angelo and Isabella switch roles just before the interval, the names of their characters remain Angelo and Isabella, the characters just trade places with Isabella becoming the deputy and Angelo the novice. The entire play is retold again, which I didn’t find repetitive at all, although I can see that some might see it that way. Admittely, I sighed when I first saw period dress, but I really enjoyed the first retelling in its original genders, but I much more enjoyed the modern dress second half. I don’t know if this is because I now knew the play better, whether they were better suited to their characters in the second half or that I’m just more inclined to modern dress. Either way, both Atwell and Lowden brought different things to both their characters, something that I found interesting, in that the second half with Atwell as the deputy felt in ways more about sexual tension than the Lowden deputy, which for me felt more about exerting power rather than pure lust and desire. I found it also was a very thought provoking piece for me, especially in the wake of the Kavanaugh testimony in the US earlier this week. It seems to be a true Me Too play, despite the fact Shakespeare wrote it as a comedy more than four hundred years ago. I honestly thought the entire thing was great, and although the gender swap can be seen as a bit of a gimmick I think it worked really well and you learnt a lot about the characters by doing it this way. Atwell and Lowden give strong performances, as do the rest of the cast. I’d strongly recommend if you can get tickets, it’s a very good piece of theatre. Amazing how opinions can vary I thought it was one of the most poorly cast Shakespeare plays I have ever seen Not helped by being hacked apart And at under 80 mins There is nothing for anyone to develop character wise |
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Post by ATK on Oct 8, 2018 11:14:47 GMT
Can someone who’s seen it please say which side of the theatre the blocking favours? Donmar shows always seem to have actors facing one side of the stage far more than the other, so seating on the sides is a real gamble.
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Post by lynette on Oct 8, 2018 12:38:42 GMT
80 minutes? I thought it was 90. Can you confirm P, ta
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 12:42:47 GMT
The website says that the running time is 2 hours and 40 minutes including a 15-minute interval. I will be there tonight. I shall confirm later.
In honour of the switching gimmick, I shall have a glass of white wine before the show and change to a glass of red wine for the interval. Yes, I mix. That's just how I roll.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Oct 8, 2018 12:50:46 GMT
@ryan two glasses of wine at the Donmar!
Pushing the boat out for a Monday, still recovering from the price shock of ordering a large Red earlier in the year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 16:46:10 GMT
The website says that the running time is 2 hours and 40 minutes including a 15-minute interval. I will be there tonight. I shall confirm later. In honour of the switching gimmick, I shall have a glass of white wine before the show and change to a glass of red wine for the interval. Yes, I mix. That's just how I roll. So very method of you ... going all in! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 17:21:56 GMT
So very method of you ... going all in! Always. In fact, that reminds me of a summer I once spent at Lambeth Palace as an intern. Golden days . . . . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 18:12:15 GMT
80 minutes? I thought it was 90. Can you confirm P, ta Signs say 80 minutes then a 15 minute interval then 70 minutes. |
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Post by lynette on Oct 8, 2018 20:57:57 GMT
Thank you Ryan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 22:09:39 GMT
Yup. Out by about 10:10. Or 22:10 if you want to get all naval about it. Although to be fair you could quite easily skip the second half and be out by 20:50.
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