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Post by foxa on Mar 16, 2019 22:07:29 GMT
Oh no, Daniel! Hope you feel better - falls like that can be nasty.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 0:00:01 GMT
Oh no, Daniel! Hope you feel better - falls like that can be nasty. thank you! I'm okii, a bit of a sore head, but I'm at home in bed now so hopefully a bit of sleep will clear it up a bit!
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Post by learfan on Mar 17, 2019 0:57:39 GMT
Oh no, Daniel! Hope you feel better - falls like that can be nasty. thank you! I'm okii, a bit of a sore head, but I'm at home in bed now so hopefully a bit of sleep will clear it up a bit! Oh flip! Sleep well, feel better in the morning.
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Post by gmoneyoutlaw on Mar 17, 2019 2:22:51 GMT
So sorry to hear about your accident this evening at the Old Vic. Cold compress and keeping the lights low will help.
American Clock is a long boring evening. Why be bored at the theatre, when you can nap at home for free. Save up your strength for All My Sons and avoid that concrete that done you in this time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 10:42:31 GMT
So update, I've just got done getting checked over because I slipped on the curb outside and smacked my head on the concrete! So as you can imagine, I'm gonna have to give this one a miss, head to the train station and go home. Never a dull moment people, never a dull moment. i am sorry this happened, but honestly, I sort of wish it had happened to me before I saw this play.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 10:49:30 GMT
Thank you for the lovely messages. From what friends of mine have told me on here and on other social media, I had a lucky escape anyway. 😂
Maybe this isn't the best Miller play to start on anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 10:57:49 GMT
Thank you for the lovely messages. From what friends of mine have told me on here and on other social media, I had a lucky escape anyway. 😂 Maybe this isn't the best Miller play to start on anyway. I am looking forward to Death of a Saleman and the gender flipped Crucible. Maybe start there? How’s the head today? Do you have a comedy bump and bandage??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 11:04:30 GMT
Thank you for the lovely messages. From what friends of mine have told me on here and on other social media, I had a lucky escape anyway. 😂 Maybe this isn't the best Miller play to start on anyway. I am looking forward to Death of a Saleman and the gender flipped Crucible. Maybe start there? How’s the head today? Do you have a comedy bump and bandage?? I like The Crucible, I've seen the film, so that may be the one for me, and I know Death of a Salesman is an iconic piece so definitely that sounds like a good one too. It's interesting reading the Wikipedia for The American Clock that it appears alot of critics and audiences agree this is one of Miller's weakest, if bits the weakest. I'm better today thank you, I have a lump but it's on the side of the top of my head under hair so luckily it's not visable too much. I'm just glad it wasn't more serious.
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Post by learfan on Mar 17, 2019 14:23:05 GMT
Crucible or Salesman probably best plays to start. I would def recommend The Price at Wyndhams. Sounds like you were a bit lucky both with the bump and production!
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Post by Snciole on Mar 17, 2019 17:31:10 GMT
So update, I've just got done getting checked over because I slipped on the curb outside and smacked my head on the concrete! So as you can imagine, I'm gonna have to give this one a miss, head to the train station and go home. Never a dull moment people, never a dull moment. I am glad you aren't too broken. I hope you are back out on the town soon
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Post by Dr Tom on Mar 18, 2019 23:13:41 GMT
Well this was horrible. Long and tedious. Don’t think I ever fully got the plot but eventually decided different actors were playing the same characters at different points in the play, exactly the same thing as happened at whatever the last Old Vic production I saw was and I didn’t take to it then either.
I was in the front row of the Lilian Baylis Circle. Watchable in the gap between the rails and the stage is further forward than normal. Also made the big gaps in the lower levels obvious, particularly in the Circle.
The highlights? The breaks for music and dancing. Can see why Giles Terera pulled out.
There’s probably a decent play in there somewhere if the director didn’t have to feel the need to find new different depths that just weren’t really there.
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Post by mallardo on Mar 21, 2019 14:13:18 GMT
Finally caught up with this and I'm glad I did. I thought the music and dancing integrated well into the piece, the first act, which had most of it, played better because of it. Where I thought director Rachel Chavkin overthought things and let us down was in the three way casting of the members of the Baum family, the centrepiece characters of the story.
I get what she was after - the play is, in part, a mosaic of America in the Depression so why not have that fact underlined and reflected in the family itself? But that point doesn't need to be made. And using multiple actors for the same roles diffuses our involvement with the people they're playing. The Baums are archetypal Arthur Miller creations, versions of his own family, under economic stress and splintering as a result. In a Big Picture play like this - something new for Miller - they are the heart and soul of the thing, the foundation upon which the whole epic is grounded. Ms Chavkin's concept severely undercuts that.
Still, there is much to enjoy and the cast are first rate. There is a great deal of passion, raw seething anger, in this play - Miller doesn't pull any punches - and that comes through loud and clear. And I suppose, ultimately, that is the real message of The American Clock.
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Post by sf on Mar 21, 2019 17:36:21 GMT
Finally saw it yesterday afternoon.
The three-way casting just about worked for me, but it didn't make the storytelling any clearer and I suspect there might have been more effective ways to make the same point. I think it's fascinating but flawed production of a messy, sprawling, flawed play; there are some wonderful individual performances in it, and some very moving moments, and a lot of things that didn't quite hang together - but that's more or less what I was expecting from what I knew about the play. I enjoyed it, and I'm very glad I saw it, and I can certainly understand why some people have really hated it.
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Post by learfan on Mar 22, 2019 21:10:22 GMT
At the interval, christ what a mess! Prime example of director's ego taking over. Oh well im not walking. Coz god alone knows when this will be revived again. Poor Arthur!
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 23, 2019 23:55:00 GMT
I think I enjoyed this more than The Price (which I saw earlier today) which feels weird to say considering the reactions to both. Perhaps the level of hatred that a lot of people had to this set my expectations low enough to be exceeded massively but I just think I found it and what it had to say and also the direction (which is obviously hit or miss for most) a lot more interesting than what The Price had to offer which was a straight play without much new going on just with really strong performances.
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