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Post by carriesparkle on Mar 25, 2019 13:06:55 GMT
It is ten years this year since Too Close To The Sun graced the West End.
RIP Ernie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 13:22:35 GMT
I saw Always. IIRC it seemed to drag a little but wasn't that bad a show. With a title like that they were asking for trouble, though.
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Post by horton on Mar 25, 2019 16:29:38 GMT
Now you mention David Easter- what about 'Girlfriends' at the Playhouse?
I quite liked it but boy was it a lonely experience going to see that show!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 21:26:29 GMT
In my attic,I have found a series of Orbis part-work publications called ‘The Musicals Collections’ from I am guessing the 90’s which included a CD.Some rather rare shows including BABY which I have never come across in the Uk.Was it a flop? Also PICKWICK.Was this considered a WE flop?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 23:38:05 GMT
I also have the complete Musical's Collection. It was an odd selection of shows and the recordings were a mix of Original Cast recordings, guest singers and choral societies.
Baby only only had a UK tour in the late 80's. It starred Tim Flavin, Susie Blake and Caroline O'Connor. I saw it at the Alex in Birmingham. I have grown to love the show and score over the years, but the tour didn't do a huge amount for me back then. I have a friend who was in the tour and it wasn't a happy one, because of someones diva behaviour and demands! It was destined for the West End, but the tour fizzled out before it could come in.
I think it could definitely be updated and revived and would be great for a venue like The Southwark Playhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 8:57:08 GMT
Thank you,Much appreciated information
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Post by barrowside on Mar 27, 2019 9:50:21 GMT
I'm not sure Pickwick was a flop in the West End unless it didn't recoup. It ran 694 performances at the Saville. It flopped on Broadway after only 56 performances.
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Post by No. on Mar 27, 2019 9:55:51 GMT
Too soon to say Waitress??
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 27, 2019 10:49:42 GMT
I'm not sure Pickwick was a flop in the West End unless it didn't recoup. It ran 694 performances at the Saville. It flopped on Broadway after only 56 performances. I caught the tour in the 90's and found it to be quite poor |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 11:04:39 GMT
In my attic,I have found a series of Orbis part-work publications called ‘The Musicals Collections’ from I am guessing the 90’s which included a CD.Some rather rare shows including BABY which I have never come across in the Uk.Was it a flop? Also PICKWICK.Was this considered a WE flop? Baby ran about six months on Broadway in the mid eighties. I love the score and, as a show it works really well; moving and heartwarming. I think it was first done here at the long gone Wythenshawe Forum in Manchester in 1990-ish. Pickwick is less successful, suffering from having to yoke together disparate source material from different stories into a full evening, There was a TV production of it with the original star, Harry Secombe (also in the nineties revival), and it passes the time pleasantly enough. The recordings came from John Yap’s TER label, using cut down versions of existing CDs or using excerpts from new full score recordings. There were seventy five in all. Some twenty plus years later, there may still be some of the studio recordings not yet fully released. Ivor Novello’s Dancing Years was one of the set and only just released in its entirety this year. I think there may well be a full Gigi, Seven Brides, Fantasticks, Music Man, 42nd Street and Fiddler on the Roof recorded but that’s speculation based on full recordings of others appearing well after. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 27, 2019 11:56:14 GMT
In my attic,I have found a series of Orbis part-work publications called ‘The Musicals Collections’ from I am guessing the 90’s which included a CD.Some rather rare shows including BABY which I have never come across in the Uk.Was it a flop? Also PICKWICK.Was this considered a WE flop? Baby ran about six months on Broadway in the mid eighties. I love the score and, as a show it works really well; moving and heartwarming. I think it was first done here at the long gone Wythenshawe Forum in Manchester in 1990-ish. Pickwick is less successful, suffering from having to yoke together disparate source material from different stories into a full evening, There was a TV production of it with the original star, Harry Secombe (also in the nineties revival), and it passes the time pleasantly enough. The recordings came from John Yap’s TER label, using cut down versions of existing CDs or using excerpts from new full score recordings. There were seventy five in all. Some twenty plus years later, there may still be some of the studio recordings not yet fully released. Ivor Novello’s Dancing Years was one of the set and only just released in its entirety this year. I think there may well be a full Gigi, Seven Brides, Fantasticks, Music Man, 42nd Street and Fiddler on the Roof recorded but that’s speculation based on full recordings of others appearing well after. TER also recorded Anyone can whistle with Freidman. Barrowman and Dame Julia! I'd love for it released. The Don't ballet section is on the Soundcloud and is well worth a listen |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 12:03:17 GMT
Baby ran about six months on Broadway in the mid eighties. I love the score and, as a show it works really well; moving and heartwarming. I think it was first done here at the long gone Wythenshawe Forum in Manchester in 1990-ish. Pickwick is less successful, suffering from having to yoke together disparate source material from different stories into a full evening, There was a TV production of it with the original star, Harry Secombe (also in the nineties revival), and it passes the time pleasantly enough. The recordings came from John Yap’s TER label, using cut down versions of existing CDs or using excerpts from new full score recordings. There were seventy five in all. Some twenty plus years later, there may still be some of the studio recordings not yet fully released. Ivor Novello’s Dancing Years was one of the set and only just released in its entirety this year. I think there may well be a full Gigi, Seven Brides, Fantasticks, Music Man, 42nd Street and Fiddler on the Roof recorded but that’s speculation based on full recordings of others appearing well after. TER also recorded Anyone can whistle with Freidman. Barrowman and Dame Julia! I'd love for it released. The Don't ballet section is on the Soundcloud and is well worth a listen He keeps saying it will be released, so maybe next? There’s a fair bit of music which has never been heard in an official recording It took years for their One Touch of Venus to get released but it was well worth it in the end. |
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 27, 2019 12:36:56 GMT
TER also recorded Anyone can whistle with Freidman. Barrowman and Dame Julia! I'd love for it released. The Don't ballet section is on the Soundcloud and is well worth a listen He keeps saying it will be released, so maybe next? There’s a fair bit of music which has never been heard in an official recording It took years for their One Touch of Venus to get released but it was well worth it in the end. Yes Venus is fab. Doesn't it use a few different orchestras and conductors? I'm sure i read Whistle is similar as it the producers found some additional music |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 13:44:42 GMT
Sincere thanks for all this insight.There is a wealth of great knowledge on this sight. Fascinating stuff.World class! Really appreciate it.
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Post by distantcousin on Mar 27, 2019 18:59:30 GMT
It ran for a couple of years in London (off West End). Best forgotten, but I saw it in Manchester when the tour starred Gary Glitter.
The London run starred Sonia, I believe!
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Post by carriesparkle on Mar 27, 2019 20:19:23 GMT
Baby was on the fringe a few months ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 23:29:26 GMT
Chatting with an old friend of mine about this thread and he swears that there was a musical that he saw circa 2006 called Daddy Cool with the music of Frank Farian’s Boney M.My memory must be evaporating with age cos I can’t remember a thing about it.Wiki tells that it wasn’t a big hit in the WE which is a shame because some of their songs were true disco classics.
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Post by carriesparkle on Mar 27, 2019 23:45:10 GMT
Chatting with an old friend of mine about this thread and he swears that there was a musical that he saw circa 2006 called Daddy Cool with the music of Frank Farian’s Boney M.My memory must be evaporating with age cos I can’t remember a thing about it.Wiki tells that it wasn’t a big hit in the WE which is a shame because some of their songs were true disco classics. Yes! It was at the Shaftesbury, and starred MC Harvey and Javine (of MC Harvey and Javine notoriety). |
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Post by horton on Mar 27, 2019 23:47:56 GMT
I have the CD- and the memory of the giant multicolour parrot!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:31:23 GMT
Javine. Her that didn't make it into Girls Aloud, despite being one of the better singers.... I missed Daddy Cool when it was on mainly because I'm not a big jukebox musical fan. I see that it was based around Romeo and Juliet, like another jukebox show going into the same theatre this year...  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 9:57:53 GMT
Sounds ace.
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Post by n1david on Mar 28, 2019 10:28:44 GMT
Not shoe-horning any song titles in there.
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 28, 2019 13:25:39 GMT
What I remember was that "Daddy Cool" was supposed to open in May, ended up opening in September and was gone a few weeks later. Vague memory of Michelle Collins being in it? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 15:52:10 GMT
Yep she was Ma Baker!
Disappointed they didn’t work in my favourite Boney M song “Belfast” in which they offer a solution to the Troubles through the medium of disco
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 16:04:59 GMT
Oh my God, YES, this show was BRILLIANT. Gayest thing ever, I saw it 4 times. Michelle - Cindy - Collins, Javine - Touch My Fire - Hylton. Harvey and his body. The giant parrot. The set that was cheaper than chips for some scenes and inexplicably extravagant in others. The 20 minutes megamix and carnival at the end.
All it really needed was popular drag artist Sandra to pop up and do her versions of Brown Girl and Rivers and it really would have been the perfect evening.
And, unlike most flops, it got recorded - yay! Proud owner of the CD.
I think it may have gone to Berlin after London and was then never heard of again.
1st equal "flop" with Moby Dick and possibly Closer To Heaven (though think perhaps the latter was only intended to be a limited run).
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