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Post by hulmeman on Jul 7, 2018 9:26:42 GMT
For all of you attending pride in London today, have a fab time and be safe. I think Oxfordsimon is working as part of the parade, I hope he and all the other workers have a good time too!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 9:38:44 GMT
Happy Pride all! I was supposed to be there, but had to cancel my London trip unfortunately.
Remember Pride started as a protest, and we still need that protest for many things (not least helping people in countries such as the one football is happening in). And that Pride is about supporting the community, and each other.
It's also a party, so enjoy it. But stay safe. And if parties and parades aren't your thing, you're still as much a part of the community.
I'm doing spectacularly well at missing Prides this year- a day too late for New York, missing London and in London for Cardiff Pride. Still I'll watch the film Pride and drink some gin to you all partying tonight.
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Post by hulmeman on Jul 7, 2018 9:43:17 GMT
Happy Pride all! I was supposed to be there, but had to cancel my London trip unfortunately. Remember Pride started as a protest, and we still need that protest for many things (not least helping people in countries such as the one football is happening in). And that Pride is about supporting the community, and each other. It's also a party, so enjoy it. But stay safe. And if parties and parades aren't your thing, you're still as much a part of the community. I'm doing spectacularly well at missing Prides this year- a day too late for New York, missing London and in London for Cardiff Pride. Still I'll watch the film Pride and drink some gin to you all partying tonight. If there is a chance you make Manchester Pride, let me know. There is a glass of your fave tipple waiting for you! x
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 9:46:58 GMT
Wear sunscreen, carry water, love each other, and have a wonderful day!
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 7, 2018 9:54:08 GMT
Remember Pride started as a protest, and we still need that protest for many things (not least helping people in countries such as the one football is happening in). And that Pride is about supporting the community, and each other. I'd just like to double/triple like this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 9:59:00 GMT
Remember Pride started as a protest, and we still need that protest for many things (not least helping people in countries such as the one football is happening in). And that Pride is about supporting the community, and each other. I'd just like to double/triple like this. Thanks! I've been thinking about it a LOT this year. I'm a loud-mouthed-activist Queer (or whatever label I'm choosing each day) and I want to shout, make changes and generally embody the spirit of Pride in that respect. But I'm also an introvert, who hates crowds, doesn't drink that much (cough most days cough) and doesn't like clubbing and whatnot. But Pride still belongs to me as well. And everyone who stays at home. And as I get older, I also find myself wanting to look after members of our community, younger ones, but also anyone else who doesn't feel they fit in. So on that note, standing invitation if anyone always wanted to go to Pride but was reluctant, I'll go and stand with them. If anyone DOESN'T want to go to Pride, I'll go for a drink/coffee/cake/sit in a park with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 10:02:03 GMT
I'm just finishing up bejeweling my jockstrap and I'm good to go!!
Have a great day everyone!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 10:03:28 GMT
Happy Pride all! I was supposed to be there, but had to cancel my London trip unfortunately. Remember Pride started as a protest, and we still need that protest for many things (not least helping people in countries such as the one football is happening in). And that Pride is about supporting the community, and each other. It's also a party, so enjoy it. But stay safe. And if parties and parades aren't your thing, you're still as much a part of the community. I'm doing spectacularly well at missing Prides this year- a day too late for New York, missing London and in London for Cardiff Pride. Still I'll watch the film Pride and drink some gin to you all partying tonight. If there is a chance you make Manchester Pride, let me know. There is a glass of your fave tipple waiting for you! x ooh Manchester Pride is a 'Bucket List' Pride for me (I was raised by Russell T Davies and Queer as Folk after all)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 12:10:56 GMT
And from someone who undoubtedly would have been proud to be part of London Pride...
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Post by hulmeman on Jul 7, 2018 13:25:46 GMT
I'm just finishing up bejeweling my jockstrap and I'm good to go!! Have a great day everyone! Pictures or it didn't happen!!
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Post by hulmeman on Jul 7, 2018 13:30:22 GMT
If there is a chance you make Manchester Pride, let me know. There is a glass of your fave tipple waiting for you! x ooh Manchester Pride is a 'Bucket List' Pride for me (I was raised by Russell T Davies and Queer as Folk after all) £49 day return on the train strikes it off yer bucket list!!!
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Post by richey on Jul 7, 2018 13:55:11 GMT
If there is a chance you make Manchester Pride, let me know. There is a glass of your fave tipple waiting for you! x ooh Manchester Pride is a 'Bucket List' Pride for me (I was raised by Russell T Davies and Queer as Folk after all) It's always great fun. I'll be there in the parade
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Post by bimse on Jul 7, 2018 14:02:36 GMT
I'd just like to double/triple like this. Thanks! I've been thinking about it a LOT this year. I'm a loud-mouthed-activist Queer (or whatever label I'm choosing each day) and I want to shout, make changes and generally embody the spirit of Pride in that respect. But I'm also an introvert, who hates crowds, doesn't drink that much (cough most days cough) and doesn't like clubbing and whatnot. But Pride still belongs to me as well. And everyone who stays at home. And as I get older, I also find myself wanting to look after members of our community, younger ones, but also anyone else who doesn't feel they fit in. So on that note, standing invitation if anyone always wanted to go to Pride but was reluctant, I'll go and stand with them. If anyone DOESN'T want to go to Pride, I'll go for a drink/coffee/cake/sit in a park with them. So well said @emicardiff, and that’s such a very kind gesture of friendship and support to make. In fact it’s quite moving to hear, and I’m sure there are many who would like to take up such a kind offer. We can all be out and proud, and supportive of each other, in our own way .
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 7, 2018 14:53:13 GMT
Sadly health issues have prevented me from being in London today - but from everything I hear, it is going brilliantly.
Biggest parade ever. Greatest number of participating groups representing EVERY sector of the various LGBT communities. Largest number of volunteers ever. Most diverse team of volunteers.
I love emicardiff's idea. One of the things that I am hoping to take forward is the idea of a quiet space within Pride for exactly those people who want to be part of the day but who don't want to be in huge crowds. It can be such an overwhelming experience that having the opportunity to still be involved but in a quieter, more manageable way would help Pride reach out even further.
I am very sad that I am not there this year - but I had to be realistic as to what I can manage right now. Thankfully Team Pride have been very supportive and I will be back in the future.
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 7, 2018 17:14:41 GMT
Firstly, Happy Pride to all.
I was there today as as a spectator and it was crazy busy, but lots of fun. Of course, extremely hot- the sun was really blaring- but lots of fun!
The one thing that I noticed form all- this actually in the parade and watching like me- is that (above all( everyone was smiling!
As a spectator I usually last about three hours before feeling the move to move on.
Despite having water and cutting sunscreen on after this time on my feel I jut simply needed more water so, on the hunt for some, over an hour later and this parades still going strong.
Apparently my work- Haringey Council (HarinGAY) has a float this year, but it must have come through after I left. They were however handing out rainbow lanyards at work.
I actually saw three people that I know, two in the parade and and one just walking by with his daughter.
One of the two in the parade was our very own WestEndCub and the second was a local resident who's partner (shockingly) committed suicide but jumping from the balcony over his sexuality and is still fighting the case for Muslims acceptance of homosexuality.
The one just walking by with his daughter was an ex-colleauage who has now also moved across to Haringey like me, but who works in a different department
As I said, I did put suncream on so (hopefully) will not wake up tomorrow too red!
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Post by peggs on Jul 7, 2018 17:32:41 GMT
Was in London for theatre and so got a bit of spectator first experience of pride. I'm guessing the football and the sun helped but I've never seen London heaving with so many smiling joyful people, it made me unexpectedly emotional
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 19:49:05 GMT
I haven't been to Pride for a few Years. Dont get me wrong, I had a great day and met lots of fun people to watch the parade with, but when did it all become so corporate?
What happened to important charities like Stonewall and Terence Higgins at the front. Why wasn't the Mayor and other prominent figures leading the way. Just because Barclays paid the most, should they lead the parade? Not in my opinion.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 7, 2018 21:10:31 GMT
Pride in London costs just short of 1 million quid to stage. The aim is also to keep it a free event so that anyone can attend without being charged an entry fee.
If everyone who attended donated just £1, there would be no need for corporate sponsors. But they don't.
The compromise is that major sponsors are needed.
However this year, sponsors gave up part of their allocation of places in the parade to give room to every single community group who wanted to participate.
Which is why there were 500 groups marching with over 30000 participants. A huge march of protest and celebration.
I think it is important to preserve it as a free event and to keep it as a big presence. It is a huge statement to take over the centre of London for a day.
Unless other funding sources can be found, there will have to be corporate involvement.
As for Stonewall, they withdrew earlier this year because they believed that Pride in London was not diverse enough for them. It was a political decision on their part and not based on the reality of the organisation in 2018. 37 percent of volunteers are from BAME communities. That is pretty representative to me. Can more be done? Absolutely. Are Stonewall as diverse? No.
They would be welcomed back at any time. But they are pursuing a different agenda at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 21:29:02 GMT
Re Stonewall's stance which I don't understand at all.Surely it would have been better to bring their concerns re diversity by taking part in the parade rather than not.As the saying goes "Its better to be standing in the tent pissing out rather than standing out of the tent pissing in"
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Post by anthony40 on Jul 8, 2018 6:42:33 GMT
Bet you there'yl be a lot of very sore heads and discarded glitter right across London this morning.
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Post by hulmeman on Jul 8, 2018 8:31:05 GMT
Sadly health issues have prevented me from being in London today - but from everything I hear, it is going brilliantly. Get better v.soon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 8:48:06 GMT
Re Stonewall's stance which I don't understand at all.Surely it would have been better to bring their concerns re diversity by taking part in the parade rather than not.As the saying goes "Its better to be standing in the tent pissing out rather than standing out of the tent pissing in" I agree- Stonewall could have shown up, with a large 'quota' (for want of a better word) of BAME marchers, and used that to make a political statement within the march. Stonewall's agenda as an organisation has frequently baffled me in recent years however. There's many excellent well meaning people working there, but they have some very odd agendas at times. Meanwhile I posted on FB that I was watching 'Pride' the film instead of Pride, and told, none to politely by a Welsh Playwright that it is an abhorrent film because the Welsh accents aren't good enough (oh but that he hasn't watched it to know). I could be annoyed, but instead I just pity a man who can't find joy in that film.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 8, 2018 8:58:13 GMT
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Post by n1david on Jul 8, 2018 9:04:33 GMT
In a way I'm sorry that Pride has become quite so organised, but I do understand that times change and I'm old enough to remember the years when Pride went bust every year, and even the year it was cancelled the week before it was due to happen because the organisers couldn't pay the security bill (in the event a reduced event went ahead because the authorities recognised that huge numbers of people were going to turn up anyway).
So I do understand why the organisers need more corporate money, and I appreciate that there were more community groups this year, but there seems to be no space any more for the "unaffiliated". I used to meet a bunch of friends and we'd walk the march just as that - a group of gay people, representing nobody but ourselves. I am glad that society has moved on so far that we are now the centre of attention in London on this day, and there is such goodwill towards us (on the whole) that people turn out to celebrate, compared to the bad old days when we marched to Brockwell or Kennington, regarded with bemusement if not outright hostility from those people whose life we were disrupting.
But something still rankles that my sister, who is a "straight ally" for one of Pride's sponsors, was allocated two wristbands, one for her and one for her husband, which she had no intention of using as she's up North, while I'm stuck on the sidelines, watching rather than participating.
As costs go, in the great scheme of the progress of human rights, it's a small one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 9:10:00 GMT
I do agree about being able to march- I don't belong to any groups/am clearly not famous so it's hard to get involved in marching, but I'd also (in London or Cardiff) be able to just march and show solidarity. (Clearly it's my Welsh mining blood, see above, love a march love a banner) but it's becoming much like the London Marathon to 'get in'
I do appreciate it costs a lot of money, and I'd rather it be organised and safe but maybe we should have an organised- not-affiliated group of marchers for us rag-tag lot who don't have a group.
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