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Post by Michael on Jul 22, 2016 11:42:56 GMT
Definitely! People are saying Avenue Q only won the award because they needed it to stay open. I'm sorry, but I thought the whole point of giving out awards was to honor the best. Maybe Avenue Q simply had the better score and the Tony Voters simply preferred it over Wicked? I don't think there's a conspiracy theory hidden somewhere.
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Post by Michael on Jul 22, 2016 11:44:22 GMT
I like both, but if I had to choose one, I'd vote for Avenue Q. The score or the show Michael? I was referring to the scores, but now that you ask: both actually. I really like Wicked, but I like Avenue Q even more.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 22, 2016 11:46:02 GMT
The score or the show Michael? I was referring to the scores, but now that you ask: both actually. I really like Wicked, but I like Avenue Q even more. I haven't listened to avenue q in a while, and Wicked very recently, so I dont feel very qulified to say, but as a whole score I can't remmeber much of Q.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 12:02:48 GMT
People hate the big guy- the machine musical to get the award Then why did Hamilton win so many awards
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 22, 2016 12:34:40 GMT
People hate the big guy- the machine musical to get the award Then why did Hamilton win so many awards Not the same bog guy (in Wicked's case it seemed like a Disney robo-show) Why Ham won so many is a different question though, not for me to answer cause I don't think it deserved all the awards it got.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 12:37:29 GMT
Then why did Hamilton win so many awards Not the same bog guy (in Wicked's case it seemed like a Disney robo-show) Why Ham won so many is a different question though, not for me to answer cause I don't think it deserved all the awards it got. It's still a big guy show. It doesn't matter which big guy. And Wicked isn't Disney.
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 22, 2016 12:42:37 GMT
Not the same bog guy (in Wicked's case it seemed like a Disney robo-show) Why Ham won so many is a different question though, not for me to answer cause I don't think it deserved all the awards it got. It's still a big guy show. It doesn't matter which big guy. And Wicked isn't Disney. It really isn't though...? Literally no one behind the scenes is a big guy. Lin wasn't well known, Seller isnt that big a deal, no star in the production, the subject wasnt popular, the musical style isnt popular on Bway. Its the very definition of the little guy making it big (and Ill be the last to toot Hamiltons horn) And Wicked WAS Disney prorperty- Schwartz started ot as a film project for disney. And it does have that feel (and I love Wicked) of a disney mega show. You seem invested in this arguement pointoine but you are wrong on this count.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 12:45:43 GMT
It's still a big guy show. It doesn't matter which big guy. And Wicked isn't Disney. It really isn't though...? Literally no one behind the scenes is a big guy. Lin wasn't well known, Seller isnt that big a deal, no star in the production, the subject wasnt popular, the musical style isnt popular on Bway. Its the very definition of the little guy making it big (and Ill be the last to toot Hamiltons horn) And Wicked WAS Disney prorperty- Schwartz started ot as a film project for disney. And it does have that feel (and I love Wicked) of a disney mega show. You seem invested in this arguement pointoine but you are wrong on this count. LMM was already a Tony and Grammy winner. So was Alex Lacamoire. And Wicked WAS NOT Disney property. It was a film project for Universal. You are wrong on this count
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 22, 2016 12:47:41 GMT
It really isn't though...? Literally no one behind the scenes is a big guy. Lin wasn't well known, Seller isnt that big a deal, no star in the production, the subject wasnt popular, the musical style isnt popular on Bway. Its the very definition of the little guy making it big (and Ill be the last to toot Hamiltons horn) And Wicked WAS Disney prorperty- Schwartz started ot as a film project for disney. And it does have that feel (and I love Wicked) of a disney mega show. You seem invested in this arguement pointoine but you are wrong on this count. LMM was already a Tony and Grammy winner. So was Alex Lacamoire. And Wicked WAS NOT Disney property. It was a film project for Universal. You are wrong on this count Being a Tony winner does not make someone a big guy You're right re: universal. Im sure though it passed as property through Disney at some point... Almost sure.. lol EDIT maybe Im mixing it up with that artist that imagined up Wicked as an animation... Im confused lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 12:49:17 GMT
LMM was already a Tony and Grammy winner. So was Alex Lacamoire. And Wicked WAS NOT Disney property. It was a film project for Universal. You are wrong on this count Being a Tony winner does not make someone a big guy You're right re: universal. Im sure though it passed as property through Disney at some point... Almost sure.. lol Still, by the time it was Tony night LMM had become one of the most well-known composers of the last decade
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Post by ShoesForRent on Jul 22, 2016 12:58:16 GMT
Being a Tony winner does not make someone a big guy You're right re: universal. Im sure though it passed as property through Disney at some point... Almost sure.. lol Still, by the time it was Tony night LMM had become one of the most well-known composers of the last decade This is the last Ill add to this comversation because we're way o.t. but some were predicting Hamilton backlash because of its popularity- this did not happen. Why? Because Broadway was celebrating creators invention? Perhaps? Because the rest of the season was dramaticly weak? Probably (that choreo award was Savion's though, still angry) Wicked on the other hand was not well recieved with the critics or the industry (many actors were vocal about how they thought the cocept would tank) and yet it was succesful, much like Disney mega musicals- this is where the comparison draws I think. While Avenue Q was the little guy. And I do think still Wicked deservex best score- but I am going to give Q a listen soon, maybe Ill change my mind.
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Post by Michael on Jul 22, 2016 14:54:08 GMT
I haven't listened to avenue q in a while, and Wicked very recently, so I dont feel very qulified to say, but as a whole score I can't remmeber much of Q. Fine fine line, Schadenfreude, Purpose, I wish I could go back to college, Mix Tape, For Now, Fantasies come true?
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Post by tommy123 on Jul 22, 2016 21:34:06 GMT
Jodie Steele (Standby for Elphaba on the tour) has tweeted that she's going to London. Seems unusual that she would have time off from the tour this early on...could she be on emergency cover?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 21:38:08 GMT
Jodie Steele (Standby for Elphaba on the tour) has tweeted that she's going to London. Seems unusual that she would have time off from the tour this early on...could she be on emergency cover? As far as I know, Michelle is fine and she's supposed to be emergency cover until 30 July
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Post by shady23 on Jul 23, 2016 4:10:25 GMT
Jodie Steele (Standby for Elphaba on the tour) has tweeted that she's going to London. Seems unusual that she would have time off from the tour this early on...could she be on emergency cover? Especially since the tour also has a Sunday matinee...
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 23, 2016 11:50:59 GMT
Jodie Steele retweeted someone which confirms she is in London today to standby and then back to Bradford tonight!
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 23, 2016 11:54:10 GMT
And surely with the current Elphie crisis is it wise them adding an extra 2 matinees in August?! They're struggling to manage 8 shows let alone do two extra 9 show weeks!
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Post by greeny11 on Jul 23, 2016 16:31:18 GMT
It's the school holidays - probably the peak season for Wicked, so they're bound to have extra shows during this part of the year. I hardly think the health of their Elphabas came into consideration when they chose to do the extra shows, as they still had 3 healthy Elphabas at that point!
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 29, 2016 21:58:47 GMT
Is it Rachel Tucker's last Broadway show tomorrow?!
Cast change feeling real now.... Eeeeek!
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Post by shady23 on Jul 30, 2016 5:46:35 GMT
Not sure. Don't they do a Sunday matinee there?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 9:53:10 GMT
I think they normally do a Sunday matinee but not this week - looks like Rachel leaves today and Jenny starts on Monday (I thought they didn't usually do Mondays, but that's the information I've found!)
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Post by noonebutyou on Jul 30, 2016 12:37:48 GMT
Rachel's last show is today (tonight)! Through the summer Wicked Bway has a show on Monday instead of their usual Sunday.
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Post by hitmewithurbethshot on Jul 30, 2016 20:57:15 GMT
According to twitter Savannah Stevenson has overtaken Dianne Pilkington as London's longest-running Glinda, and the 5th longest-running worldwide!
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Post by tr252 on Jul 31, 2016 8:54:45 GMT
She smashed it... Such incredible control of her voice! Roll on September!!
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Post by crunchemhall on Jul 31, 2016 9:27:00 GMT
This is stunning
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