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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 13:53:48 GMT
What I don't get is, that they don't do a NT Live to satisfy all those who missed out on tickets for one reason or other. I'm sure many Cumberbatch/Hiddleston/name your superstar fans were very happy that NT Live allowed them to get a look at their fave's performances of Hamlet and Coriolanus after all, so why not do the same here? Yes, that does seem a little silly. But then that's Rufus Norris for you. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 13:57:57 GMT
I thought I read somewhere that the director specifically wanted the Dorfman or am I imagining that? Perhaps the production fits the Dorfman more than the Lyttleton? Aren't we always complaining about shows that go into inappropriate theatres for particular productions? And are they really stunt casting here? Cate Blanchett has made a hugely successful film career from doing blockbusters and small independent arty projects which are never intended for large audiences. From looking at her stage career to date too, she's not exactly gone for the big blockbusting crowd pleasers there either so it's not altogether inconceivable that the idea of working with Martin Crimp, Katie Mitchell and Stephen Dillane ticked a lot of boxes for La Blanchett. And who are we to criticise an actor who wants to do a small scale piece of theatre that nourishes her creative instincts just because she has two Oscars and it means that there are people who might not get to see it? Should she just always be stuck doing long runners in bigger venues now? And I dislike the great unwashed as much as the next snob but seriously, the majority of my theatre going adventures are related to either (a) someone I like off the telly or (b) someone I think is hot hot HOT. We all do it. Apart from showgirl. A celebrity should be priced according to their success. We see this all the time when it comes to music acts. Springsteen just did a year on Broadway, because of the high demand for tickets. If Cate Blanchett thought she was being kind by performing a short run with cheap tickets, it did not satisfy the masses. |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 16, 2019 13:59:35 GMT
I don't think NT Live at the Dorfman has been done before (possibly mistaken but I think Mosquitoes for instance wasn't either?) so it might not be equipped The Hampstead Theatre recently streamed a performance of I and You online, for free, because of the global popularity of its Game of Thrones star. It was recorded without an audience. Mosquitoes was in the round so may have been more complicated but I think it was due to the play being co-funded or produced (or something) with a US theatre/organisation. Perhaps there was thought of a possible US transfer though given Colman's other commitments that doesn't seem likely, but who knows? They NTlived Angels even though that was going to the US. |
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Post by crowblack on Jan 16, 2019 14:01:36 GMT
I don’t understand why they didn’t put the play into the Lytterton Yes - the seatplan looked similar. The advantage of the Dorfman is it can do in the round, but this isn't, is it? |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:02:26 GMT
The bitterness which has arisen As the start date of this production Has come closer Is quite astonishing Let me remind you The NT allowed all members at higher levels To book 2 tickets on any date of their choice This was BEFORE any ballots had been carried out The reality is they don’t give a sh*t about empty sentiments or “I supported the theatre for years” (by always scrabbling for the cheapie tickets What speaks to them is cold hard cash They charge £160 per ticket for the annual supporters party which is in ADDITION to the membership costs They are concerned with making money Same as everyone else in this world If you really wanted to buy tickets to this show It really wasn’t hard If you were expecting the NT to prioritise you due to your own deluded immense levels of loyalty and pander and beg after you Then you are mistaken The membership fee is what keeps ticket prices down. Members should get first choice of tickets. But what NT should have done, is raised the price of non-members tickets. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 14:05:23 GMT
If Cate Blanchett thought she was being kind by performing a short run with cheap tickets, it did not satisfy the masses. One would guess that she wasn't "being kind" but probably a short run fitted in with her other filming commitments. And I'm guessing that it wasn't intended to satisfy the masses either. The rest of the creatives involved wouldn't suggest that this would be any kind of long runner in a larger theatre. |
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Post by kathryn on Jan 16, 2019 14:05:28 GMT
I agree about NT Live or a transfer (likely with a recast), but I don't think NT Live at the Dorfman has been done before (possibly mistaken but I think Mosquitoes for instance wasn't either?) so it might not be equipped, and we don't know yet that a transfer is off the cards. I'd be astonished if the Nash had managed to redevelop their 'most flexible' theatre 5 years after they started a flagship live broadcast scheme in such a way that doing a live broadcast from it isn't physically possible. That would be ludicrously short-sighted. The Donmar and the Almedia can do broadcasts, and they are both small spaces that were designed before such a thing existed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 14:06:21 GMT
Are Fleeshman's abs stunt casting?
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Post by vdcni on Jan 16, 2019 14:08:52 GMT
I'm missing something here. I really don't understand how the tickets being cheap is a problem.
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:09:33 GMT
If Cate Blanchett thought she was being kind by performing a short run with cheap tickets, it did not satisfy the masses. One would guess that she wasn't "being kind" but probably a short run fitted in with her other filming commitments. And I'm guessing that it wasn't intended to satisfy the masses either. The rest of the creatives involved wouldn't suggest that this would be any kind of long runner in a larger theatre. Her last play was a Broadway production, where cheapest tickets were $100 in upper mezzanine. I can't see her being paid top dollar to do this. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:12:15 GMT
I'm missing something here. I really don't understand how the tickets being cheap is a problem. It made tickets high demand, because more people can afford it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 14:12:42 GMT
A celebrity should be priced according to their success. Please please please please PLEASE talk me through how you're quantifying this. Will there be an international registry of celebrities (with some kind of validation system), or would it apply to all professional actors? Is the success based in finances, in which case is it their wages or is it their box office takings (good luck affording tickets to see Letitia Wright in The Convert if we're going for this one)? If it's their wages, would the ticket costs therefore have to vary wildly depending on their last job, so sometimes you can definitely afford to see Jade Anouka in a play but other times she's just done the Galaxy ads and now she's priced way out of your budget? If we're looking at a 90% unemployment rate for actors at any given time, then perhaps success should be quantified by how much the actor has worked recently, as a steady career in the arts is basically gold dust. So an international movie star who filmed five movies back-to-back to be released over the next few years so they could take some time off to spend with their family would therefore be an absolute BARGAIN to see in the theatre, and jobbing actors who the average audience member couldn't pick out of a line-up nonetheless command enormous ticket prices because they've only had two days out of work over the last couple of years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 14:13:04 GMT
One would guess that she wasn't "being kind" but probably a short run fitted in with her other filming commitments. And I'm guessing that it wasn't intended to satisfy the masses either. The rest of the creatives involved wouldn't suggest that this would be any kind of long runner in a larger theatre. Her last play was a Broadway production, where cheapest tickets were $100 in upper mezzanine. I can't see her being paid top dollar to do this. I'm confused. Aren't we always bemoaning the price of tickets in London's glitzy West End and wanting cheaper tickets? Did you want them to increase the prices for this show? |
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Post by vdcni on Jan 16, 2019 14:15:09 GMT
So what. People want to go to the theatre, how terrible.
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:20:41 GMT
A celebrity should be priced according to their success. Please please please please PLEASE talk me through how you're quantifying this. Will there be an international registry of celebrities (with some kind of validation system), or would it apply to all professional actors? Is the success based in finances, in which case is it their wages or is it their box office takings (good luck affording tickets to see Letitia Wright in The Convert if we're going for this one)? If it's their wages, would the ticket costs therefore have to vary wildly depending on their last job, so sometimes you can definitely afford to see Jade Anouka in a play but other times she's just done the Galaxy ads and now she's priced way out of your budget? If we're looking at a 90% unemployment rate for actors at any given time, then perhaps success should be quantified by how much the actor has worked recently, as a steady career in the arts is basically gold dust. So an international movie star who filmed five movies back-to-back to be released over the next few years so they could take a couple of years to spend time with their family would therefore be an absolute BARGAIN to see in the theatre, and jobbing actors who the average audience member couldn't pick out of a line-up nonetheless command enormous ticket prices because they've only had two days out of work over the last couple of years. You're comparing nobodies to Cate Blanchett. There's a big difference. She's a two time Oscar winner. If she did more than one play on Broadway she probably would be a Tony winner too. People would travel from around the world to see her. |
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Post by vdcni on Jan 16, 2019 14:25:01 GMT
But I still don't see why that matters.
If the prices were 5 times what they normally are at the National you'd still have people resentful about not going it would just be over price rather than being unlucky in a ballot.
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:26:44 GMT
Her last play was a Broadway production, where cheapest tickets were $100 in upper mezzanine. I can't see her being paid top dollar to do this. I'm confused. Aren't we always bemoaning the price of tickets in London's glitzy West End and wanting cheaper tickets? Did you want them to increase the prices for this show? It doesn't matter to me how they priced it. The point is Cate's not being paid what she's worth, which is why I said she's being kind for doing this play. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:28:18 GMT
But I still don't see why that matters. If the prices were 5 times what they normally are at the National you'd still have people resentful about not going it would just be over price rather than being unlucky in a ballot. And there probably wouldn't have had a ballot system that only allowed UK residents the opportunity to purchase tickets. |
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Post by vdcni on Jan 16, 2019 14:28:55 GMT
Oh my god! Sometimes actors want to do things top challenge them creatively.
Look how many big name actors still do theatre. She's hardly the only one!
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Post by vdcni on Jan 16, 2019 14:29:41 GMT
But I still don't see why that matters. If the prices were 5 times what they normally are at the National you'd still have people resentful about not going it would just be over price rather than being unlucky in a ballot. And there probably wouldn't have had a ballot system that only allowed UK residents the opportunity to purchase tickets. Oh how terrible that the British National Theatre favours people who live here! |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:30:10 GMT
Oh my god! Sometimes actors want to do things top challenge them creatively. Look how many big name actors still do theatre. She's hardly the only one! No one is arguing otherwise. |
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Post by vdcni on Jan 16, 2019 14:31:32 GMT
Then I have no idea what you are arguing or what your bloody point is. You just seem to want to complain.
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Post by Backdrifter on Jan 16, 2019 14:32:01 GMT
I can't remember another thread on either this or the previous board where I've veered so much between laughing and despairing.
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:32:46 GMT
And there probably wouldn't have had a ballot system that only allowed UK residents the opportunity to purchase tickets. Oh how terrible that the British National Theatre favours people who live here! That's why it shouldn't have been done there. |
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Post by shelbee on Jan 16, 2019 14:34:05 GMT
Then I have no idea what you are arguing or what your bloody point is. You just seem to want to complain. I'm not arguing about anything. I'm having a discussion and you're the one flying off the handle |
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