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Post by eatbigsea on Mar 21, 2019 9:42:43 GMT
All right, since at least someone agreed with me (thanks Shady23) that (Ryan’s) view is the same as a lot of (white male) critics, from Jesse Green (NYMag, now NYT) to Peter Crawley to Michael Billington. Heaven forbid fat working class women get to celebrate their accomplishments and see themselves reflected on stage. Huh? Have I said anything about fat working class women celebrating their accomplishments and seeing themselves reflected on stage? Ummmmm, let me check for a moment. No, I don't think I have. So don't lump me in with other criticisms you might have with others thank you very much. Deleted. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 9:45:09 GMT
Huh? Have I said anything about fat working class women celebrating their accomplishments and seeing themselves reflected on stage? Ummmmm, let me check for a moment. No, I don't think I have. So don't lump me in with other criticisms you might have with others thank you very much. All right fine. Fat working class women are merely a subset of the great unwashed, who don’t get out much. I didn't say that either. You might have done but I haven't and if you don't retract your post, then that is libel. Moderators, you need to deal with this post as a matter urgency. |
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Post by eatbigsea on Mar 21, 2019 9:47:35 GMT
All right fine. Fat working class women are merely a subset of the great unwashed, who don’t get out much. I didn't say that either. You might have done but I haven't and if you don't retract your message, then that is libel. At no point did I say that you did. What you said, precisely, was “The great unwashed loved it though and couldn't wait to get to their feet at the curtain call and all the way out you could hear people saying that it was the best thing they'd ever seen and how amazing they thought it was. I don't think they get out much.” |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 9:50:06 GMT
I didn't say that either. You might have done but I haven't and if you don't retract your message, then that is libel. At no point did I say that you did. What you said, precisely, was “The great unwashed loved it though and couldn't wait to get to their feet at the curtain call and all the way out you could hear people saying that it was the best thing they'd ever seen and how amazing they thought it was. I don't think they get out much.” And I at no point mentioned any "subset" of people either. Whatever agenda you have, don't include me in it. That's unacceptable and I doubt that the administrators of this board want to be drawn into something more formal and serious either. I will take it further if I have to. Moderators, I appreciate that you are not on the board all the time so you have 12 hours in which to make your decision regarding these disgraceful posts or I shall be forced to take it further. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 9:52:36 GMT
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Post by eatbigsea on Mar 21, 2019 9:53:07 GMT
I’ll delete the posts in a minute, I don’t want any trouble. But for the record, none of this in any way approaches libel.
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Post by danb on Mar 21, 2019 9:53:17 GMT
I didn't say that either. You might have done but I haven't and if you don't retract your message, then that is libel. At no point did I say that you did. What you said, precisely, was “The great unwashed loved it though and couldn't wait to get to their feet at the curtain call and all the way out you could hear people saying that it was the best thing they'd ever seen and how amazing they thought it was. I don't think they get out much.” I think the conversation needs viewing in context of Ryans whole schtick on here, because it is rarely targeted or serious. If you had only recently joined/rarely visited the site and didn’t get thatt, you could be forgiven for thinking both interpretations. Just have a sit down with a jug of margaritas you two and embrace your linguistic and comedic differences. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 9:55:10 GMT
I’ll delete the posts in a minute, I don’t want any trouble. But for the record, none of this in any way approaches libel. If you're so confident about that then leave it where it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:09:32 GMT
Ryan uses the phrase 'great unwashed' in jest all the damn time on this board. We all know it's meant in good humour. And regardless saying 'the great unwashed' in no way relates to anyone's gender or size and nowhere did Ryan say anywhere else anything relating to those two things.
Either way there are actual bigots in the world, some of whom seem to be starring in shows...so maybe we can leave our kind and funny members be?
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Post by eatbigsea on Mar 21, 2019 10:16:19 GMT
Ryan uses the phrase 'great unwashed' in jest all the damn time on this board. We all know it's meant in good humour. And regardless saying 'the great unwashed' in no way relates to anyone's gender or size and nowhere did Ryan say anywhere else anything relating to those two things. Either way there are actual bigots in the world, some of whom seem to be starring in shows...so maybe we can leave our kind and funny members be? I’ve deleted the posts and acknowledge that the phrase ‘the great unwashed’ doesn’t refer to anyone’s gender or size. But that particular statement wasn’t very kind, even in jest. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:23:26 GMT
Ryan uses the phrase 'great unwashed' in jest all the damn time on this board. We all know it's meant in good humour. And regardless saying 'the great unwashed' in no way relates to anyone's gender or size and nowhere did Ryan say anywhere else anything relating to those two things. Either way there are actual bigots in the world, some of whom seem to be starring in shows...so maybe we can leave our kind and funny members be? I’ve deleted the posts and acknowledge that the phrase ‘the great unwashed’ doesn’t refer to anyone’s gender or size. But that particular statement wasn’t very kind, even in jest. Thank you for the deletion. I believe you owe Ryan an apology for your unfounded accusations. I'm not wasting my day arguing, but that phrase is a joke, and one frequently used by Ryan (and copied by others including myself) it is a JOKE and neither he, nor any of us actually thinks we're anything other than the 'great unwashed' ourselves. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:24:57 GMT
A "Newfie" accent is difficult and unique, nothing like the accents in the other maritime provinces of Canada. When I was a kid in Toronto we used to try to do it - not for the best of motives, alas - because it seemed so extreme to us. yes it's a bit like the way us South Waleians attempt a North or West Wales accent but fail, because it's SO distinct. Except even more so for Newfoundland, because it's such a hybrid accent too. |
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Post by alece10 on Mar 21, 2019 10:29:17 GMT
I sat next to an unwashed 2 nights ago and it definately wasn't great.
Deodorant definately wasn't in his shopping list.
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Post by eatbigsea on Mar 21, 2019 10:29:36 GMT
I’ve deleted the posts and acknowledge that the phrase ‘the great unwashed’ doesn’t refer to anyone’s gender or size. But that particular statement wasn’t very kind, even in jest. Thank you for the deletion. I believe you owe Ryan an apology for your unfounded accusations. I'm not wasting my day arguing, but that phrase is a joke, and one frequently used by Ryan (and copied by others including myself) it is a JOKE and neither he, nor any of us actually thinks we're anything other than the 'great unwashed' ourselves. I didn’t intend to accuse Ryan of anything other than criticising the musical. Any interpretation beyond that is mine alone, and clearly incorrect. I apologise, Ryan. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:30:23 GMT
I sat next to an unwashed 2 nights ago and it definately wasn't great. Deodorant definately wasn't in his shopping list. It's so wrong but the obvious joke in this thread is 'did they smell of fish?' |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:37:18 GMT
Thank you for the deletion. I believe you owe Ryan an apology for your unfounded accusations. I'm not wasting my day arguing, but that phrase is a joke, and one frequently used by Ryan (and copied by others including myself) it is a JOKE and neither he, nor any of us actually thinks we're anything other than the 'great unwashed' ourselves. I didn’t intend to accuse Ryan of anything other than criticising the musical. Any interpretation beyond that is mine alone, and clearly incorrect. I apologise, Ryan. Apology accepted. By all means, disagree with something I actually say but don't put words into my mouth. Or post. Case dismissed.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 10:40:22 GMT
At no point did I say that you did. What you said, precisely, was “The great unwashed loved it though and couldn't wait to get to their feet at the curtain call and all the way out you could hear people saying that it was the best thing they'd ever seen and how amazing they thought it was. I don't think they get out much.” And I at no point mentioned any "subset" of people either. Whatever agenda you have, don't include me in it. That's unacceptable and I doubt that the administrators of this board want to be drawn into something more formal and serious either. I will take it further if I have to. Moderators, I appreciate that you are not on the board all the time so you have 12 hours in which to make your decision regarding these disgraceful posts or I shall be forced to take it further. , you no longer have 12 hours because it's all sorted. You can get back to your mid-morning nap or muffin or whatever else you get up to instead. eatbigsea and I are acquaintances again so no action required. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 11:02:41 GMT
Moderators, you no longer have 12 hours because it's all sorted. You can get back to your mid-morning nap or muffin or whatever else you get up to instead. Mostly, we're working at this time of day.
But, sincerely, thank you to all involved for settling this amicably. It's appreciated more than you know.
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Post by Jonnyboy on Mar 21, 2019 11:03:24 GMT
Yay, well done for sorting. Ryan, I was at CFA Monday night. I’d have loved to have said hi!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 11:10:46 GMT
Yay, well done for sorting. Ryan, I was at CFA Monday night. I’d have loved to have said hi! You should have done. I can always be found in the bar either before the show or during the interval. Or often both. And if the show is rotten, sometimes during. And I'm usually looking scrumptious too. Make sure you do next time. I can't be held responsible for my actions if you don't. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 12:33:47 GMT
Yay, well done for sorting. Ryan, I was at CFA Monday night. I’d have loved to have said hi! You should have done. I can always be found in the bar either before the show or during the interval. Or often both. And if the show is rotten, sometimes during. And I'm usually looking scrumptious too. Make sure you do next time. I can't be held responsible for my actions if you don't. I can vouch for that. Both the general residence in the bar, and the looking scrumptious. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 12:37:47 GMT
You should have done. I can always be found in the bar either before the show or during the interval. Or often both. And if the show is rotten, sometimes during. And I'm usually looking scrumptious too. Make sure you do next time. I can't be held responsible for my actions if you don't. I can vouch for that. Both the general residence in the bar, and the looking scrumptious.  |
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Post by beatrice on Mar 21, 2019 15:33:32 GMT
I can vouch for that. Both the general residence in the bar, and the looking scrumptious. I feel like I need to have lunch with both of you guys. Or cocktails. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 15:39:23 GMT
I feel like I need to have lunch with both of you guys. Or cocktails. Oh you do. We're fabulous together. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 16:11:16 GMT
I feel like I need to have lunch with both of you guys. Or cocktails. Me too. But are cocktails enough - should we not be drinking Moet? |
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