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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 7:25:17 GMT
I've said it before here but speaking of Laura Michelle Kelly - I have such fond memories of that first production in 2005 with Kelly, Lee, and the wonderful David Haig... That production was so magical and dark; it was perfection. The set alone was worth the ticket price. I have a feeling this production will be glossier, shinier, more cartoonish and the set will be based on the pop-up tour set (perhaps with a few tweaks) for financial reasons (surely they won't recreate the full original?)... I'd love to see it only if it will live up to the original. But with Strallen in the lead, I won't hold my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 7:42:50 GMT
I've always had mixed feelings on the show. First time I saw it with the original london cast I was a bit underwhelmed. But when Scarlett Strallen took over I went again and loved it. Also enjoyed it on Broadway and with Caroline Sheen on the first UK tour. however saw the last UK tour as was quite bored, it really dragged and Zizis voice was quite shrill and for me she just wasn't that strong.
Charlie as Bert is great casting though
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Post by Stephen on Sept 16, 2018 9:34:58 GMT
Can we talk about orchestrations/orchestra size for this? How reduced was it for the most recent tour? I really hope that it's a nice full sound for the Prince Edward again.
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Post by danb on Sept 16, 2018 11:11:42 GMT
I noticed no issues with the orchestrations when I saw the tour. It was a really quality production, and you would only grumble about maybe the set possibly if you were comparing it to the original Bristol/PE production with the ‘house sized’ house on stage.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 16, 2018 11:15:55 GMT
That's good to hear!
As I recall the original production didn't have a lot of strings in the orchestrations anyway. Mainly brass/wind and some electric guitar to flesh things out a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:17:20 GMT
I noticed no issues with the orchestrations when I saw the tour. It was a really quality production, and you would only grumble about maybe the set possibly if you were comparing it to the original Bristol/PE production with the ‘house sized’ house on stage. +1 I thought it sounded nicely full (orchestration wise) - although I have no reference point to compare it to having not seen the original production. Just a little bit quiet - but the average age of the audience was maybe 10 so I guess they have to be stricter on volume.
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Post by stagey on Sept 16, 2018 15:26:57 GMT
Is this planned to be an open-ended run? I’m glad it’s back but I’d prefer if they ran this until January 2020 so over Christmas then a new show in 2020. The theatre is lovely but huge so hard for some shows I guess
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Post by stevej678 on Sept 16, 2018 15:29:59 GMT
Is this planned to be an open-ended run? I’m glad it’s back but I’d prefer if they ran this until January 2020 so over Christmas then a new show in 2020. The theatre is lovely but huge so hard for some shows I guess There's no chance this will run for just four months.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:33:13 GMT
I think the Prince Edward could be an option for Wicked in future if they ever want to downsize a la Les Mis. The stage there looks like the only one really wide enough to support its huge set.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 15:34:28 GMT
I reckon they would advertise this as limited run if that was the case.
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Post by tmesis on Sept 16, 2018 16:54:19 GMT
I saw the original cast and was quite underwhelmed. I love the songs and the film and had high expectations, but the whole thing lacked life as a production and the added Styles and Drew songs were mediocre.
However, with The Stemp is in this forthcoming incarnation I'm at the front of the queue...
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Post by danb on Sept 16, 2018 17:05:43 GMT
I think the Prince Edward could be an option for Wicked in future if they ever want to downsize a la Les Mis. The stage there looks like the only one really wide enough to support its huge set. ‘Wicked’ takes up very little wing space...it would never fit in the Apollo Vic if it needed that. It could easily downsize to the touring size set which is no less impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 21:29:07 GMT
Charlie Stemp doing this is so predictable and expected. He should really look to do more diverse work.
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Post by musicalmarge on Sept 17, 2018 6:55:26 GMT
Charlie Stemp doing this is so predictable and expected. He should really look to do more diverse work. What? Playing a lead role in a huge West End musical, earning 5-10 grand a week, in a huge Mackintosh show in one of our best theatres in one of our most popular musicals from the 2000’s? How awful!!!!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 17, 2018 8:16:07 GMT
He’s only about 23. Let the lad get some money in the bank before we start sending him off down niche valley.
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Post by daniel on Sept 17, 2018 8:31:47 GMT
It's his second leading West End role...give the guy a break!
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Post by danb on Sept 17, 2018 8:37:53 GMT
He’s only about 23. Let the lad get some money in the bank before we start sending him off down niche valley. Is that the little alleyway off Leicester Square with the wine bar?
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Post by Stephen on Sept 17, 2018 12:58:56 GMT
I understand why people think he can only play one type of part but he is young and has had a great run since drama school. I thought that he was fantastic in Half a Sixpence and the Panto and everyone seemed to love him in Dolly.
He'll have a bit more of a chance to mature in this role and who knows what's next for him!
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Post by david on Sept 17, 2018 13:27:48 GMT
I understand why people think he can only play one type of part but he is young and has had a great run since drama school. I thought that he was fantastic in Half a Sixpence and the Panto and everyone seemed to love him in Dolly. He'll have a bit more of a chance to mature in this role and who knows what's next for him! Totally agree with you. He's played the lead in a west end show, gone over to Broadway and shared the stage with two threatrical greats in Elaine Paige and Bette Midler. At 23/24 that is some acting CV. I'm sure he has learned alot for his future career from just being around these people on a daily basis. Good luck to him, I'm sure he will be great.
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Post by firefingers on Sept 17, 2018 13:45:18 GMT
What? Playing a lead role in a huge West End musical, earning 5-10 grand a week, in a huge Mackintosh show in one of our best theatres in one of our most popular musicals from the 2000’s? How awful!!!! 5 to 10 grand a week?! Not a chance. Perhaps £1.5k if they believe him sort after, but I'd expect even less. Equity minimum for even the largest theatres isn't even up to £500 a week yet.
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Post by TallPaul on Sept 17, 2018 16:04:45 GMT
If the interweb is to be believed, Charlie Stamp was born on 30 November 1993, so he's 24 going on 25.
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Post by showtoones on Sept 17, 2018 17:18:57 GMT
A lead in a West End show makes a lot more than 1500 a week.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 17:40:05 GMT
I saw this tour. I don't see the need for a West End revival now. However, it's obviously to cash in on the publicity from the movie sequel but is a whole year later so I don't know how effective that will be.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 17:46:06 GMT
I saw a Mary Poppins poster with Lin Manuel on it and freaked out! Then I realized that was the new movie, not the West End revival lol.
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Post by bedsmuso on Sept 17, 2018 20:15:11 GMT
What? Playing a lead role in a huge West End musical, earning 5-10 grand a week, in a huge Mackintosh show in one of our best theatres in one of our most popular musicals from the 2000’s? How awful!!!! 5 to 10 grand a week?! Not a chance. Perhaps £1.5k if they believe him sort after, but I'd expect even less. Equity minimum for even the largest theatres isn't even up to £500 a week yet. Let's clear something up using actual facts........ Cat A (1100+seats) Minimum £694.67 Cat B (800-1099) £631.91 Cat C (Up to 799 seats) £568.60 They are all minimum weekly fees for west end theatres according to the current Equity agreement with SOLT. Anything over that is negotiated via agents and of course all depends on producers but even for the principals, it generally isn't as high as some people might think.
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