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Post by liverpool54321 on Dec 28, 2018 10:51:41 GMT
We chatted to the glasses caption people after the show. Been very popular since launch with lot of people using where English is a second language.
I got to try the National Theatre's smart caption glasses for the first time and while they were a bit heavy, they were overall terrific. Much better than regular captioning where your eyes keep darting between the captions on the side of the stage and the performers on stage. Such a wonderful service!
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Post by pianowithsam on Dec 28, 2018 12:06:20 GMT
Went to see the evening performance of it last night. Was honestly my favourite show I've ever seen. Just fantastic.
There was also a superfan in the centre of the front row. New every word and cried on multiple occasions. Made me smile :3
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Post by tmesis on Jan 5, 2019 17:04:19 GMT
I finally caught up with this today and on the whole wished I hadn't bothered. It started promisingly, and I found the music attractive, but I thought it got terribly samey; nearly every number was in a minor key (or blues/modal version of the minor) with predictable ostinatos and descending bass lines. She could have lifted the music by the odd key change, but it never seemed to happen, so the effect, by the end, was quite monotonous.
I actually liked the performers and the production; the handling of the Orpheus story was quite clever also - it was just the dreary music.
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Post by Being Alive on Jan 5, 2019 17:42:32 GMT
Yeah this wasn’t for me. I hate the first 25-30 minutes. Diabolically slow to get going and actually do anything.
Cast fine, apart from Hades who was singing in a different key to the musicians constantly. Triple revolve wins it some points back from me though.
I just didn’t get it, I think is the problem. End of Act 1 was good, but it just had moments, it didn’t do anything strongly enough for long enough. 2 stars from me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 19:24:20 GMT
Will this run ever end?
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Post by pianowithsam on Jan 5, 2019 19:28:08 GMT
I finally caught up with this today and on the whole wished I hadn't bothered. It started promisingly, and I found the music attractive, but I thought it got terribly samey; nearly every number was in a minor key (or blues/modal version of the minor) with predictable ostinatos and descending bass lines. She could have lifted the music by the odd key change, but it never seemed to happen, so the effect, by the end, was quite monotonous. I actually liked the performers and the production; the handling of the Orpheus story was quite clever also - it was just the dreary music. Where were you sat? I was there again today. Just as stunning as the first time, for me anyways.
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Post by Stasia on Jan 6, 2019 10:02:06 GMT
I was stunned and loved the show with all my heart. Oh, and I “cried numerous times”, in case anyone wants to “smile” again and think of how funny emotional people are.
For me the magic worked. In the interval for the matinee show I went online to check tickets for the evening one. It was soldout, otherwise I’d seen it twice.
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Post by sf on Jan 6, 2019 16:27:31 GMT
I was also there yesterday afternoon.
I loved the music and the staging, and Andre de Shields, Patrick Page, and Amber Gray. Reeve Carney has a nice voice and can't act, Eva Noblezada has a very nice voice and can act a bit, but only a bit, and it's a problem if you're telling the story of Orpheus and Eurydice and your Orpheus and Eurydice are (much) less interesting than your Hades, Persephone and Hermes. Overall it was a thrilling musical experience rather than a moving piece of theatre.
I still have big reservations, too, about the National's publicly-funded resources being used to give commercial producers what amounts to a cut-price out-of-town tryout, and while I'm totally in favour of the Equity exchange arrangement that allows performers from the UK and US to cross the Atlantic with shows like this, it leaves a slightly sour taste to see a production at the National where all five leads are Americans parachuted in under the exchange programme, with British performers relegated to the ensemble. It would leave less of a sour taste if some members of the ensemble were going to be making the transfer to Broadway, but since the only casting announced for Broadway so far is those five leads there's a good chance they won't be.
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Post by viserys on Jan 6, 2019 16:47:21 GMT
I still have big reservations, too, about the National's publicly-funded resources being used to give commercial producers what amounts to a cut-price out-of-town tryout, and while I'm totally in favour of the Equity exchange arrangement that allows performers from the UK and US to cross the Atlantic with shows like this, it leaves a slightly sour taste to see a production at the National where all five leads are Americans parachuted in under the exchange programme, with British performers relegated to the ensemble. It would leave less of a sour taste if some members of the ensemble were going to be making the transfer to Broadway, but since the only casting announced for Broadway so far is those five leads there's a good chance they won't be. Hm, I can do some extent understand this feeling, but this is not one of those bland commercial Broadway enterprises like Tootsie or Mean Girls, that milks some existing movie. This is a very creative, offbeat strange thing that has divided opinions on here strongly and I don't think any producer would be taking the risk to bring Hadestown into the West End AFTER the Broadway premiere as a second commercial production with an entirely British cast (just like Chavkin's other completely off-the-wall production Comet doesn't seem to be happening). I'd rather see it done at the National like this than not getting it at all (or in five years' time in a very scaled-down production at Southwark). Who knows, seeing how well it's been selling at the National now and has had some time to build up steam, they MIGHT be willing to risk a West End transfer now with a new British cast.
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Post by sf on Jan 6, 2019 16:59:20 GMT
Hm, I can do some extent understand this feeling, but this is not one of those bland commercial Broadway enterprises like Tootsie or Mean Girls, that milks some existing movie. This is a very creative, offbeat strange thing that has divided opinions on here strongly and I don't think any producer would be taking the risk to bring Hadestown into the West End AFTER the Broadway premiere as a second commercial production with an entirely British cast (just like Chavkin's other completely off-the-wall production Comet doesn't seem to be happening). I'd rather see it done at the National like this than not getting it at all (or in five years' time in a very scaled-down production at Southwark). Who knows, seeing how well it's been selling at the National now and has had some time to build up steam, they MIGHT be willing to risk a West End transfer now with a new British cast.
I would have no problem at all with the show being at the National if the National had developed it themselves, or developed it from the ground up in collaboration with NYTW and/or the Citadel. I would also have no problem with the National developing the show themselves and casting André de Shields and Amber Gray and bringing them over under the Equity exchange scheme.
Whether it's "one of those bland commercial Broadway enterprises" is beside the point. Yes, it's creative and offbeat and strange, and I did like it very much, although I didn't think it was perfect (I already liked the recording), but this is still, in the end, a questionable use of the National's resources, particularly given that the front page of the Broadway production's website makes no mention of the National Theatre at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 17:05:25 GMT
I would go back and see this again if it had two different leads.
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Post by Being Alive on Jan 6, 2019 17:39:34 GMT
Am I the only person who thought Hades couldn't sing a note in tune?!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 17:43:08 GMT
Am I the only person who thought Hades couldn't sing a note in tune?! He sings perfectly in tune. Good Leonard Cohen style delivery and very impressive miking too, making every word clear.
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Post by Stasia on Jan 6, 2019 22:51:07 GMT
Am I the only person who thought Hades couldn't sing a note in tune?! I’m afraid, you are. From what I heard, there was no problems with him being in tune, and we were at the same show. I was seated in the row C of Stalls and I guess you were somewhere upstairs? Maybe sound design there had some flaws? But Hades had none.
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Post by sf on Jan 6, 2019 22:56:12 GMT
Am I the only person who thought Hades couldn't sing a note in tune?! I’m afraid, you are. From what I heard, there was no problems with him being in tune, and we were at the same show. I was seated in the row C of Stalls and I guess you were somewhere upstairs? Maybe sound design there had some flaws? But Hades had none.
...and I was also in row C of the stalls yesterday afternoon, and Patrick Page was flawless. Absolutely in tune, on-key, note-perfect.
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Post by Being Alive on Jan 7, 2019 0:59:30 GMT
Crikey. Second to back row upstairs, and I genuinely didn’t think he sang a note in tune the entire two and a half hours. That needs fixing on the sound!
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Post by happytobehere on Jan 9, 2019 15:50:42 GMT
Got to see this last night & as a whole, I really enjoyed it. I knew the story before so I knew how it would end, but that didn’t stop me from desperately hoping they changed the ending.
I don’t agree with complaints about Reeve, I thought he was actually quite a strong performer. If anything, I thought Eva was worse casting. She’s sensational and her voice is beautiful but it also completely lacks character or grit, which would’ve been perfect for Eurydice imo. But beyond that she was great.
The true star of the show for me personally was the staging. I really love what they did here; it made all the moments in Hadestown so atmospheric, especially during the final moments.
My only real issue was, unfortunately, the songs. So many of them just blended into one for me. I saw the show less than 24 hours ago, yet only a few of the songs are still rattling around my head. I really loved ‘Wait For Me’, that’s been stuck in my head all day.
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Post by JJShaw on Jan 21, 2019 21:51:11 GMT
I just managed to get a return ticket for this, having had to return my Entry Pass tickets since I ended up not being able to make that date.
I must say I'm mainly posting this because I wanted to commend the NT for how often and frequent they put their return tickets back up for sale, the past couple days there have been £55 and £68 tickets, but at 9:30pm a £20 friday rush ticket was returned so I snapped it up! (Did something similar with Angels in America where I managed to hold out for a cheap return)
I'm looking forward to seeing it and I'm glad the NT has decided to do a musical, a new one (i know it had had runs in USA previously) and something a little different and risky.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jan 22, 2019 23:44:28 GMT
Saw this tonight. Creative, super staging, nice performances - I hated it! Haha....
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Post by danb on Jan 23, 2019 6:42:53 GMT
Saw this tonight. Creative, super staging, nice performances - I hated it! Haha.... No megamix at the end? 😂
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Post by firstwetakemanhattan on Jan 24, 2019 15:15:30 GMT
I saw this a while back when it was in its early days of the run, Really enjoyed it and vastly different to most other things I have seen. Did take a while to get going but after that it was fine. I liked the character of Hades and the story, the songs, for the most part and the use of the revolve and set. Audience seemed to lap it up as well. I was considering day seating this on Saturday for the matinee as part of my day in town as I wouldnt mind seeing it once more, but given that When We... also has a double show day as well, I think I will give the day seat queue a miss as it will surely be quite vast... Hadestown x 2 and Tortured x 2 (Wonder how many in line will be there for tickets to I'm Not Running though?!).
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Post by steven22 on Jan 25, 2019 12:31:18 GMT
I saw the original production in NY a few years ago at New York Theatre workshop and I liked it. Didn’t love it. Then the recording was released and fell in love with the music. Fast forward and I saw the production at the National last night. The space was simply too big and swallowed up the production. The cast was great but I really miss the intimacy of a smaller house and I prefer this show in the round.
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Post by AddisonMizner on Jan 26, 2019 19:45:35 GMT
I saw the final matinee performance of HADESTOWN this afternoon - my first theatre visit of 2019. I have to say I enjoyed it quite a lot, knowing very little about it beforehand.
Firstly, the staging is stunning, with some excellent choreography and physical theatre, particularly from the chorus, performed with such attack and energy. The “Wait For Me” sequence near the end of the first act was particularly breathtaking. I also liked the recurring motif of the red flower.
The score also has much to enjoy. I have to say it is not usually my sort of thing, but in context it really works and is at times thrilling. It does what the score for a musical should do by telling a story, and the band and orchestrations are tremendous. I loved the opening number, and felt that it really set the tone for the rest of the piece. There are also some beautiful love ballads in there too. I will certainly be giving the recording repeated listenings.
Dramatically I found it a bit hit and miss. There were moments that were really moving and profound. For example, the toast in the first act where they toast for what the world can be, what the world is now, and there is a silence and stillness. I also loved the contemporary relevance of the piece, and I thought it served as something of a political allegory for our times now. Not only because of all the talk of building walls etc, but also by how leaders can be brought to change by people raising their voices.
With all that being said, there were moments for me that dragged. The middle of the first act where they were establishing the central relationship seemed to go on too long for me, and nothing seemed to happen. I also felt that the first act should have ended with the “Wait for Me” sequence, and then Act Two have opened with “How We Build A Wall”. Similarly Acy Two should have ended after the walk back from Hell, although the last song was moving.
I liked the entire cast (though have to admit that I found Patrick Paige’s low growl cloying after a while. Why he couldn’t have been written him something a little higher I don’t know, as the man can definitely sing).
Overall, it was nice to see something so refreshingly different, and I look forward to following the news from it's Broadway run.
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Post by ctas on Jan 26, 2019 23:09:45 GMT
It was an emotional final performance tonight. I’m going to miss this show a lot.
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Post by pianowithsam on Jan 27, 2019 10:45:27 GMT
Going to miss this a lot too.
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