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Post by Latecomer on Mar 11, 2018 20:01:49 GMT
I see people are getting rather upset in some of the threads. Can I make a constructive suggestion? I like lots of different opinions but I get quite bored when it goes A: I think this, B:I think something else, C:I agree with A slightly, A: see, I was right to think this and will tell you all about it again and again and again.....etc etc
If you have stated an opinion I think we can take it as read that that is how you feel, we don't need you to come on again and again to reinforce your point. And before anyone mentions names I can think of at least 3 people who do this on a regular basis!!!!! I have had to block people....check threads....if you turn up again and again without really letting others breathe then it is you!
Make your point. Then let others make their's without always chipping in again (unless you have a further genuine point to add, of course, but it has to be something extra different!!!) We will take it as read that you feel the same way!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 11, 2018 20:17:14 GMT
Speaking as a member and not a mod I agree. Just because you hate something doesn’t mean you have to take personal responsibility for rebuking every positive post about the thing you hate (and I know it’s hard because I had to check myself with The Girls haha).
We want passionate opinions here but not vendettas.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 20:35:52 GMT
Rule of thumb: always always always assume a post begins with the words "in my opinion". It helps a lot. As Latecomer points out, your opinion when stated can be assumed to be reasonably fixed, and not inherently wrong. People can and do have diverse opinions; different opinions, for everyone's sanity, should be read simply as that, and not as disagreements for the sake of it that need to be fought. I mean, if you think of additional discussion points later, then it's perfectly reasonable to come back later and add them, but that's significantly more productive than stating your same opinion over and over and over again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 20:37:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 20:49:41 GMT
Does the system allow for people to be put on a daily post limit?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 21:05:16 GMT
Am I the only one who would rather people post too much than too little? Chatting is what keeps a board going, after all.
Also am I the only one now paranoid that this is aimed at me and everyone hates me?? I don't know what it's trying to achieve; making oblique references to people or behaviours is the worst way to address any probs - if you've got something to say, best to do it directly and preferably privately. Unless public shaming and bullying is what you're going for.
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Post by kathryn on Mar 11, 2018 21:30:55 GMT
I always suggest that people use the ignore function if someone is rubbing them up the wrong way - more often than not the Back and forth is actually just 2 people who can’t let it go, and the ignore feature can short-circuit that cycle. You don’t have to leave it on forever, it just removes the temptation to *keep* replying.
Although, If you’re the one who everyone is violently disagreeing with, that can also be an opportunity to think about whether - say it quietly - you might be wrong. We’re all wrong sometimes. We all have moments when it *is* just ourself who didn’t get it for whatever reason. It’s ok to say that it didn’t work for you and leave the thread to the people who did enjoy it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 22:18:11 GMT
Although, If you’re the one who everyone is violently disagreeing with, that can also be an opportunity to think about whether - say it quietly - you might be wrong. We’re all wrong sometimes. I have memories of reading someone, somewhere (this is a real "citation needed" situation) saying that the object of a discussion is not to defeat your opponent but to understand why they think you are wrong. Opinions that differ from yours don't come from nowhere and are probably based on real and valid experience that you know nothing about.
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Post by lynette on Mar 11, 2018 23:19:40 GMT
I love this. People pay good money for this level of therapy. I agree, better we don’t keep going on and on. A gracious back off and trot off to the bar...or the fridge in our cases I suspect.
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Post by robertb213 on Mar 12, 2018 20:27:36 GMT
Couldn't agree more on this. I have found it very sad that some members have chosen to leave something that celebrates something they love because of how some people speak to each other. Of course we all have different opinions, and that's fantastic, how bloomin' boring would it be if we all loved and hated the same stuff. Let everyone have their say, it's great. It just doesn't need to end up in 'you're wrong', 'no you're wrong', 'you smell' territory. I personally love coming here every day, learning about new shows, seeing varying perspectives, and I would hate to think I've rubbed anyone up the wrong way. I think if we can all just accept differing opinions, discuss things constructively and just share the widely diverse enjoyment of theatre, then we can all go to bed happy 😁
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Post by peggs on Mar 12, 2018 21:33:59 GMT
A gracious back off and trot off to the bar...or the fridge in our cases I suspect. You've got us sussed lynette!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 21:57:19 GMT
The lack of self-awareness on this board is rather common. There are posters who seem intent on shutting down others’ views with their own by flooding threads regularly in this way. Whilst they aren’t always directed at others, this can still feel uncomfortable.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 14, 2018 11:20:36 GMT
The ignore function I use against one member and it is bliss. I totally recommend
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 13:15:16 GMT
The ignore function is, alas, not 100% what I hoped it would be, but that doesn't mean I don't second the recommendation. I also greatly appreciate the recent extension of the feature so that when an ignored member is quoted by another member, I still have the text concealed unless I choose to click the button.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 16:03:04 GMT
I find it ironic that a thread about how to talk on the forum has very quickly become how to ignore each other.
Can't we all try to learn how to communicate without upsetting one another, learning from the mistakes we all make from time to time?
You know I once owned and ran my own coffee shop. It was bloody hard work, and we went into the venture ridiculously unprepared for a six-day-week spent on our feet, cooking, serving, washing up, ordering, trips to the cash and carry, making displays, dealing with reps, doing the accounts… and smiling at everyone when you really didn’t feel like smiling!
But the most difficult task of all was one we’d never anticipated- dealing with the regulars. Every place, however hard to find, we discovered, soon attracts its regulars. They came in all shapes and sizes (quite literally) and, behind their backs, we gave them all nicknames that seemed to suit them for some reason or another.
We learned to tell the day of the week or even the time of day from when they came in, and many would place the same order which we quickly committed to memory which seemed to go down well.
We used to enjoy their stories. We liked to hear what they’d been up to, where they’d been, and were often surprised by what made them tick. Many were great fun. And lots came in with nuggets of information and gossip about the town. It was like living inside a newspaper.
But... all our regulars demanded our attention. It wasn’t only the coffee they’d come in for. So it was a relief when some began overlapping with others, exchanging news and anecdotes amongst themselves. We saw many friendships made over a slice of coffee and walnut, feeling rather pleased that we were offering just a bit more than somewhere warm to gather, sip and natter.
But the regulars we came to dread were those who demanded all the attention. They’d often stay the longest, nursing a single cuppa for hours on end, while we were trying to prepare for the day, catch up after the lunchtime rush or when we were getting ready for afternoon tea-time. They saw themselves as part of the furniture now, perhaps as we’d encouraged their business in the early days. Seeing themselves as more important than some of the other customers, they’d speak at full volume, talking over the top of everyone else, often repeating themselves over and over again. Usually they'd be Stating Their Opinions. It was as if they had no awareness of how they were coming across to others. They didn’t take hints when some customers made their excuses to leave, or when we disappeared into the back ‘to load the dishwasher’. And they didn’t shut up after a few brave souls challenged this lack of discretion.
So the inevitable happened: the nice ones started to come in less and less. Some went elsewhere for a bit before returning. And some disappeared for ever.
And us? We decided to sell up after our little adventure. Being a sounding board was never part of our dream…
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Post by altamont on Mar 14, 2018 16:28:36 GMT
A really interesting post, Caiaphas. I am one of the admin team on a forum with 50,000 members, maybe 200 or so are very regular posters. We too have our irritants, those who think the forum owes them special attention for their contributions and really hate it when they fall foul of the rules (basically not respecting other's viewpoints). One recently left after disagreeing with the way some of their posts were moderated - many regretted that member's departure, but quite a few have privately expressed relief.
I know moderating a forum like this is not easy - we ordinary members have no idea what goes on behind the scenes and very probably would be horrified if we knew. Apart from anything else, spam hardly ever (if ever) appears here - and that is quite an accomplishment.
I don't often post here - and if I do, it is factual matters rather than reviews (whats been announced, dates, casts etc). But I am very glad that so many do take their time to share their opinions. I don't like the "ignore" function - apart from anything else, I can't resist the urge to see what my "bete noires" are saying. But also because every poster, in my opinion, has something useful to say, even if they often hide that by what looks to me like attention-seeking.
I think we should all consider what we post - try and gauge the tone we are putting across and maybe give a second's thought before hitting the "reply" button"
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 14, 2018 23:33:47 GMT
Apart from anything else, spam hardly ever (if ever) appears here - and that is quite an accomplishment. Thank you. We take the view that you probably don’t want to buy fake educational qualifications and so try to stop you being bothered by them and their ilk. I haven’t worked out whether it’s a compliment or an insult that we get so many of those. I mean, it could be drugs or firearms couldn’t it? Either way, if anyone ever sees spammy posts, hit that Report button which is in the drop down at the top right of every post.
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Post by Tibidabo on Mar 15, 2018 15:45:16 GMT
We saw many friendships made over a slice of coffee......and people still came back you say?🍘😝
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