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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:31:31 GMT
Mary Stuart, A Voyage Around My Father, Piaf, and Frost/Nixon West End wise and Red, Mary Stuart and Hamlet went to Broadway. Wasn't Guys and Dolls a Donmar to West End transfer? And then there was the Donmar West End season. But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! I guess it's just that the last couple of years at the Donmar have been comparatively underwhelming - they certainly haven't had a must-see sell-out for a while. Guys and Dolls doesn’t count because it originated at the Piccadilly and it wasn’t strictly a Donmar show, it used the same creative team like Grandage, Oram and Ashford but it was a commercial production backed by ATG, David Ian and a lot of other producers
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 13:33:29 GMT
Ah, thanks. I remember seeing it at the Picadilly but thought there was a Donmar connection - must have been the creative team.
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Post by Rory on Jan 11, 2018 13:35:39 GMT
I know you can't (and shouldn't necessarily) measure success by the number of West End transfers but am I right in saying there have only been two from the Donmar under Josie Rourke - The Weir (Wyndham's) and My Night with Reg (Apollo)? The female Shakespeare trilogy went to Kings Cross and then Brooklyn. Not everything has to transfer to be a hit. I know that Jon and acknowledged that in my post.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 13:35:53 GMT
But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! Indeed. How could you?
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Post by Jan on Jan 11, 2018 13:36:40 GMT
Would have thought Robert Icke is the obvious candidate for this job.
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Post by Jon on Jan 11, 2018 13:47:06 GMT
Would have thought Robert Icke is the obvious candidate for this job. He’d be better at the Almeida after Rupert Goold.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 11, 2018 14:13:27 GMT
Dromgoole has already stated he'll be following his Wilde season with a Shaw season. I don't know if he means *immediately* but I think it's safe to say he's committed to being a company leader rather than a building manager for the time being. I wouldn't be so quick to write off Marianne Elliott's company leadership either, one play being a tough sell isn't the same thing as instant failure. How long has Indhu Rubasingham been at the Tricycle? They're getting ready to reopen as a theatre, aren't they? She might feel like she's ready to move on once she's completed the project, the timeline could work very well for her. Just had an email from Tricycle saying they are reopening "Spring" and the new season announcement is soon. So doubt she will jump ship at duch a moment. Rachel Kavanagh?
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Post by kathryn on Jan 11, 2018 14:17:21 GMT
But gosh, how did I forget My Night With Reg? I loved that production! Indeed. How could you? Honestly, I don't know what happened. I may have to get myself to the doctor for a check-up!
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Post by dani on Jan 11, 2018 17:28:31 GMT
I wouldn't think Robert Icke would be a good choice to run a building and he probably isn't well suited to the politics and schmoozing involved. I'm sure there are a lot of interesting projects on his plate at the moment, so I don't think he needs this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 17:36:10 GMT
I have nothing to back it up but I can just feel it in my waters that they will want to go with someone of the lady persuasion again which seems right in these times we live in at present.
Perhaps Vicky Featherstone knows someone hanging around at the Royal Court that she can recommend?
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Post by QueerTheatre on Jan 11, 2018 17:56:30 GMT
I'd love if Purni Morell took the post, now her Unicorn successor has been announced. Unlikely, but would be great.
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Post by Xanderl on Jan 11, 2018 18:00:06 GMT
Yes, interesting news about Justin Audibert. Hope he continues to direct other stuff too as I've really enjoyed his stuff at the RSC and The Cardinal at Southwark.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 11, 2018 18:16:08 GMT
Yes, interesting news about Justin Audibert. Hope he continues to direct other stuff too as I've really enjoyed his stuff at the RSC and The Cardinal at Southwark. Yes me too, the Cardinal in particular was a real find. Hmmm wonder what he will programme at the Unicorn?
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Post by peggs on Jan 11, 2018 20:42:22 GMT
Disappointed when I read this, i'd have initially agreed that I hadn't enjoyed as much under her tenure as Grandage's but when I actually look through what I've seen I've had plenty of really enjoyable times there and like her she goes about her work and what she says, so good luck to them both. When it comes to who is next i'm pretty ignorant of everyone discussed so far so it'll be like when she took over, or Rufus Norris or Emma Rice will have to wait and see. Interesting times.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 22:09:17 GMT
Well I suppose I could give it a bash in the interim before I take over The Nash. Or I could probably do both at the same time really. Can't be that hard can it. Can’t wait for details of your first season
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Post by princeton on Jan 12, 2018 0:06:25 GMT
Interesting how little she's actually directed there recently - nothing since St Joan at this time last year and, given what's already been announced, nothing until June at the earliest - although she did have a co-author credit for the Kids Company musical. And in 2016 most of her directing was in New York on transfers. With this and the time spent making the Mary Queen of Scots film, one wonders whether she's had her eye on the door for quite some time.
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jan 12, 2018 2:50:03 GMT
I wonder if she's burned out from the non-creative responsibilities of the job. Some other director, I can't recall who, made a comment in an interview about Josie spending half her job at the Donmar in fundraising and corporate schmoozing. I know a couple of people who have worked in the offices there and it appears to have rather a more corporate culture than most theatres.
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Post by lonlad on Jan 13, 2018 15:41:27 GMT
Someone mentioned Rob Icke who is about the last person one would think would apply for this job -- for one thing, he's never directed a single thing there --he'd have been better off at the Young Vic (which he circled briefly), but that ship has, alas, sailed. I wonder if Jamie Lloyd (who was much in the frame last time) will re-enter the fray. A more likely bet is someone like Rob Hastie, though he may feel he hasn't been at Sheffield long enough. But he would be following the theatre trajectory of Grandage and also has a great track record at the Donmar - and more to come this season.
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Post by martin1965 on Jan 13, 2018 17:28:34 GMT
Jamie Lloyd is a good shout.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jan 13, 2018 17:32:25 GMT
Sarah Frankcom? Done great things at the Royal Exchange, been artistic director ten years this year (although joint with Greg Hersov until the last few years).
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 13, 2018 18:17:20 GMT
Harriet Walter
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Post by Jan on Jan 13, 2018 18:47:28 GMT
Someone mentioned Rob Icke who is about the last person one would think would apply for this job -- for one thing, he's never directed a single thing there --he'd have been better off at the Young Vic (which he circled briefly), but that ship has, alas, sailed. There's a long list of AD appointments in London of people who'd never previously directed anything at the venue (Rupert Goold at the Almeida for example) and if Icke circled the Young Vic (where he's never directed) then why not the Donmar ? Sometimes it is best to break out from the old boy's network on these appointments. The Young Vic would have been a better venue for him though, I agree.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 13, 2018 18:59:34 GMT
Would Robert Icke be able to do anything at the Donmar that he can't already do at the Almeida?
And the Donmar is smaller than the Almeida, so a move there would be a sideways step backwards from now.
And he's got lots of directing invitations from far and wide.
The Young Vic, with its three theatres and director training programmes, etc., is a much bigger job than the Donmar.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jan 13, 2018 19:49:59 GMT
Someone mentioned Rob Icke who is about the last person one would think would apply for this job -- for one thing, he's never directed a single thing there --he'd have been better off at the Young Vic (which he circled briefly), but that ship has, alas, sailed. There's a long list of AD appointments in London of people who'd never previously directed anything at the venue (Rupert Goold at the Almeida for example) and if Icke circled the Young Vic (where he's never directed) then why not the Donmar ? Sometimes it is best to break out from the old boy's network on these appointments. The Young Vic would have been a better venue for him though, I agree. I think Icke is more of a large stage director, the Donmar would probably be a bit poky for him to spread out design-wise.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 13, 2018 22:18:08 GMT
There's a long list of AD appointments in London of people who'd never previously directed anything at the venue (Rupert Goold at the Almeida for example) Actually, Rupert Goold had directed The Last Days of Judas Iscariot at the Almeida. And he also directed American Psycho there, which was programmed by Michael Attenborough as the last show of his AD-ship. And between those two, he'd also co-produced (but not directed) Chimerica at the Almeida.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on Jan 14, 2018 4:49:43 GMT
There's a long list of AD appointments in London of people who'd never previously directed anything at the venue (Rupert Goold at the Almeida for example) Actually, Rupert Goold had directed The Last Days of Judas Iscariot at the Almeida. And he also directed American Psycho there, which was programmed by Michael Attenborough as the last show of his AD-ship. And between those two, he'd also co-produced (but not directed) Chimerica at the Almeida. I didn’t say that! Somehow you’ve taken Jan’s words and given them to me!
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Post by Jan on Jan 14, 2018 9:39:34 GMT
There's a long list of AD appointments in London of people who'd never previously directed anything at the venue (Rupert Goold at the Almeida for example) Actually, Rupert Goold had directed The Last Days of Judas Iscariot at the Almeida. And he also directed American Psycho there, which was programmed by Michael Attenborough as the last show of his AD-ship. And between those two, he'd also co-produced (but not directed) Chimerica at the Almeida. Yes that is true. Let's try another, Paul Miller hadn't directed anything at the Orange Tree. Emma Rice hadn't directed anything at the Globe. I'm pretty sure the latter must be correct ?
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 14, 2018 12:12:28 GMT
Emma Rice hadn't directed anything at the Globe. I'm pretty sure the latter must be correct ? Nor had Dominic Dromgoole. In the case of both appointments, Shakespeare's Globe decided to explore their unique theatre in a different way from previous ADs. Yes that is true. Let's try another, Paul Miller hadn't directed anything at the Orange Tree. But he was a very experienced director who'd worked over a long time in many different theatres, and could be trusted to have a very sound vision of where he would take the Orange Tree. The Donmar is a funny one. The constraints are huge as it needs to satisfy and is fundamentally reliant on all of Arts Council England, corporate donors, individual supporters and audiences. Other theatres can survive failure in one quarter but the Donmar is too small and expensive to lose any of them.
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Post by Boob on Jan 16, 2018 18:33:13 GMT
Lyndsey Turner or Jamie Lloyd.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Jan 16, 2018 20:25:11 GMT
Carillion could do the job. The private sector is always the best option.
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