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Post by theatremad on Dec 29, 2017 16:23:45 GMT
End of 2017 and I'm going to stop posting and visiting here for the foreseeable future. No great loss to the forum as I don't post all the time.
However a loss to me as I used to love this site. And I wanted to say why and in a tiny way hopefully make a small ripple which may stir others to action.
The site in the last few months has become at times nothing more than a place for people to be viscious and downright rude about theatres/theatre personnel and even occasionally people on the thread at the time. Posts to discuss plays just become slagging matches.
This has happened to theatres I love and to one's I've never been too or even hate. To actors I love/indifferent about/hate. Though never directed to myself specific I have found peoples comments about others appalling to read and felt for those on the other end.
I wish all on the site all the best and who knows we may cross paths in a theatre somewhere. And apologies for any offence I may have caused.
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Post by peelee on Jan 1, 2018 13:02:48 GMT
I suspect that quite a few readers hate and avoid the kind of posts or threads that you dislike, so scroll past what often read like grudges and vendettas being obsessed about. Some may just be agents for others who wanted the job, the playhouse, or the funds that were going. As they say, "Whatevah". There are surely enough posts and threads for you to continue to read, theatremad, as no board should lose your sort of participant.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 1, 2018 13:12:31 GMT
End of 2017 and I'm going to stop posting and visiting here for the foreseeable future. No great loss to the forum as I don't post all the time. However a loss to me as I used to love this site. And I wanted to say why and in a tiny way hopefully make a small ripple which may stir others to action. The site in the last few months has become at times nothing more than a place for people to be viscious and downright rude about theatres/theatre personnel and even occasionally people on the thread at the time. Posts to discuss plays just become slagging matches. This has happened to theatres I love and to one's I've never been too or even hate. To actors I love/indifferent about/hate. Though never directed to myself specific I have found peoples comments about others appalling to read and felt for those on the other end. I wish all on the site all the best and who knows we may cross paths in a theatre somewhere. And apologies for any offence I may have caused. Love a good flounce me, even more poignant at Christmas/New Year...
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 1, 2018 13:16:09 GMT
I suspect that quite a few readers hate and avoid the kind of posts or threads that you dislike, so scroll past what often read like grudges and vendettas being obsessed about. Some may just be agents for others who wanted the job, the playhouse, or the funds that were going. As they say, "Whatevah". There are surely enough posts and threads for you to continue to read, theatremad, as no board should lose your sort of participant. What did I miss? Who has been offering straighteners? I'm going to be honest. This is the loveliest board on the whole internet, with some great posters who are really passionate and intelligent. I come here for www sanctity
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Post by bimse on Jan 1, 2018 14:06:30 GMT
End of 2017 and I'm going to stop posting and visiting here for the foreseeable future. No great loss to the forum as I don't post all the time. However a loss to me as I used to love this site. And I wanted to say why and in a tiny way hopefully make a small ripple which may stir others to action. The site in the last few months has become at times nothing more than a place for people to be viscious and downright rude about theatres/theatre personnel and even occasionally people on the thread at the time. Posts to discuss plays just become slagging matches. This has happened to theatres I love and to one's I've never been too or even hate. To actors I love/indifferent about/hate. Though never directed to myself specific I have found peoples comments about others appalling to read and felt for those on the other end. I wish all on the site all the best and who knows we may cross paths in a theatre somewhere. And apologies for any offence I may have caused. Love a good flounce me, even more poignant at Christmas/New Year... Maybe this is the sort of unkind and unnecessary comment that has upset theatremad. It’s hardly “lovely” , Someone’s so upset that they feel moved to write about it, they get referred to as “flouncing”, and this is encouraged by people actually “liking” this?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 16:26:25 GMT
I suspect that quite a few readers hate and avoid the kind of posts or threads that you dislike, so scroll past what often read like grudges and vendettas being obsessed about. Some may just be agents for others who wanted the job, the playhouse, or the funds that were going. As they say, "Whatevah". There are surely enough posts and threads for you to continue to read, theatremad, as no board should lose your sort of participant. I sometimes wonder if the opposite also happens with the agents etc using this forum to post positive reviews in order to create interest in their projects....but that's another topic...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 16:39:42 GMT
Fight back - they are vastly outnumbered.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 1, 2018 16:47:53 GMT
The ignore function is a truly wonderful thing. You only have to use it a few times to make the board a much more pleasant experience.
(Of course, everyone’s ignore list will be different.)
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Post by bimse on Jan 1, 2018 17:10:08 GMT
End of 2017 and I'm going to stop posting and visiting here for the foreseeable future. No great loss to the forum as I don't post all the time. However a loss to me as I used to love this site. And I wanted to say why and in a tiny way hopefully make a small ripple which may stir others to action. The site in the last few months has become at times nothing more than a place for people to be viscious and downright rude about theatres/theatre personnel and even occasionally people on the thread at the time. Posts to discuss plays just become slagging matches. This has happened to theatres I love and to one's I've never been too or even hate. To actors I love/indifferent about/hate. Though never directed to myself specific I have found peoples comments about others appalling to read and felt for those on the other end. I wish all on the site all the best and who knows we may cross paths in a theatre somewhere. And apologies for any offence I may have caused. The ignore function is a truly wonderful thing. You only have to use it a few times to make the board a much more pleasant experience. (Of course, everyone’s ignore list will be different.) Must admit I wasn’t aware there’s an ignore function kathryn. I’ve looked but can’t locate it, would you mind advising me please?
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Post by Michael on Jan 1, 2018 17:27:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 18:00:42 GMT
I sometimes wonder if the opposite also happens with the agents etc using this forum to post positive reviews in order to create interest in their projects....but that's another topic... We do get a small number of people who try to promote their own projects with posts along the lines of "Does anyone know anything about [ name of their own production]? It sounds really good." Those get deleted as soon as we catch them because they're (a) illegal and (b) stupid. The childish attempt at subterfuge is particularly annoying because we'd be perfectly fine about it if people wanted to hang around and chat about the work they're doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 18:24:29 GMT
I sometimes wonder if the opposite also happens with the agents etc using this forum to post positive reviews in order to create interest in their projects....but that's another topic... We do get a small number of people who try to promote their own projects with posts along the lines of "Does anyone know anything about [ name of their own production]? It sounds really good." Those get deleted as soon as we catch them because they're (a) illegal and (b) stupid. The childish attempt at subterfuge is particularly annoying because we'd be perfectly fine about it if people wanted to hang around and chat about the work they're doing. Is it really illegal to do that? I did not know that. Goodness, you really do never stop learning until you're dead do you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 19:59:45 GMT
We do get a small number of people who try to promote their own projects with posts along the lines of "Does anyone know anything about [ name of their own production]? It sounds really good." Those get deleted as soon as we catch them because they're (a) illegal and (b) stupid. The childish attempt at subterfuge is particularly annoying because we'd be perfectly fine about it if people wanted to hang around and chat about the work they're doing. Is it really illegal to do that? I did not know that. Goodness, you really do never stop learning until you're dead do you. The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. I only know about it because I came across it by accident while checking something else. There are a number of things that are prohibited and one of them is "Falsely claiming or creating the impression that the trader is not acting for purposes relating to his trade, business, craft or profession, or falsely representing oneself as a consumer". In other words, when you pretend to be excited about your own show you haven't thought up a clever type of promotion. You're just being so much of an idiot that the government passed a law against it.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 1, 2018 21:50:44 GMT
Love a good flounce me, even more poignant at Christmas/New Year... Maybe this is the sort of unkind and unnecessary comment that has upset theatremad . It’s hardly “lovely” , Someone’s so upset that they feel moved to write about it, they get referred to as “flouncing”, and this is encouraged by people actually “liking” this? I didn't say it was lovely though, I said I like a good flounce. I've not seen the evidence of the opening post, I wanted more details than a coded message that I am reading the wrong threads
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Post by ellie1981 on Jan 1, 2018 22:31:25 GMT
Is it really illegal to do that? I did not know that. Goodness, you really do never stop learning until you're dead do you. The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. I only know about it because I came across it by accident while checking something else. There are a number of things that are prohibited and one of them is "Falsely claiming or creating the impression that the trader is not acting for purposes relating to his trade, business, craft or profession, or falsely representing oneself as a consumer". In other words, when you pretend to be excited about your own show you haven't thought up a clever type of promotion. You're just being so much of an idiot that the government passed a law against it. Wow. I used to know someone that was actually paid by record companies to trawl internet message boards like this to promote their upcoming artists exactly how you mentioned. This was however a lot earlier than 2008 and before the emergence of social media. The fact that a law was passed against that kind of thing is crazy. I would have thought that kind of thing still happened.
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Post by bimse on Jan 1, 2018 22:33:57 GMT
Maybe this is the sort of unkind and unnecessary comment that has upset theatremad . It’s hardly “lovely” , Someone’s so upset that they feel moved to write about it, they get referred to as “flouncing”, and this is encouraged by people actually “liking” this? I didn't say it was lovely though, I said I like a good flounce. I've not seen the evidence of the opening post, I wanted more details than a coded message that I am reading the wrong threads I didn’t make myself clear, my “lovely” reference related to your statement that you consider this to be the “loveliest” site in the internet , with intelligent and passionate posters . My opinion is that it’s unkind and unnecessary to suggest that the original poster is “flouncing” because he’s upset about something. In which case It’s hardly a “lovely” site is what I Intended to say . You seem to be mocking the original poster, suggesting he’s flouncing .
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Post by robertb213 on Jan 1, 2018 23:42:25 GMT
Sadly by a forum's very nature it will inevitably cause differences of opinion (which can be a good thing and bring about constructive discussions), and while it's not always nice to read some of the more aggressive posts (intended so or not), leaving the forum completely seems a bit radical. Smile at the posts you agree with, roll your eyes at the ones you don't, and just enjoy this business we call Show 😁
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Post by grannyjx6 on Jan 1, 2018 23:46:33 GMT
End of 2017 and I'm going to stop posting and visiting here for the foreseeable future. No great loss to the forum as I don't post all the time. However a loss to me as I used to love this site. And I wanted to say why and in a tiny way hopefully make a small ripple which may stir others to action. The site in the last few months has become at times nothing more than a place for people to be viscious and downright rude about theatres/theatre personnel and even occasionally people on the thread at the time. Posts to discuss plays just become slagging matches. This has happened to theatres I love and to one's I've never been too or even hate. To actors I love/indifferent about/hate. Though never directed to myself specific I have found peoples comments about others appalling to read and felt for those on the other end. I wish all on the site all the best and who knows we may cross paths in a theatre somewhere. And apologies for any offence I may have caused. Love a good flounce me, even more poignant at Christmas/New Year... Isn't that exactly the kind of remark that theatremad was meaning?
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Post by bimse on Jan 2, 2018 7:08:04 GMT
Love a good flounce me, even more poignant at Christmas/New Year... Isn't that exactly the kind of remark that theatremad was meaning?
That’s my point exactly. I agree grannyjx6.
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