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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 14:03:19 GMT
Well even if it were to close, it has had a very healthy run in London! A fantastic run in fact, to manage two years (assuming it runs past February 2017) in London is brilliant in this day and age! The Broadway Production is already on the cusp of three years after over 1000 performances and that is still one of the biggest shows over there!
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Post by westendwendy on Sept 15, 2016 15:10:17 GMT
Why the hell is everyone going on about this closing and not Book of Mormon or Matilda.
I saw this a week last Thursday and its was full, had standing ovation and everyone adored it.
STOP IT PEOPLE!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 15:12:56 GMT
Why the hell is everyone going on about this closing and not Book of Mormon or Matilda. I saw this a week last Thursday and its was full, had standing ovation and everyone adored it. STOP IT PEOPLE!!! I don't want it to close, but it has had a fair few offers about a lot recently so it wouldn't surprise me if by the end of 2017, but it has had an amazing response and run and I love the show!
The reason people don't go on about Book of Mormon or Matilda is you never see offers for them so they must be doing amazing business still, even after however long they have been doing.
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Post by Oleanna on Sept 15, 2016 16:56:27 GMT
Why the hell is everyone going on about this closing and not Book of Mormon or Matilda. I saw this a week last Thursday and its was full, had standing ovation and everyone adored it. STOP IT PEOPLE!!! I wouldn't mind those two theatres becoming free either. SaveSave
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Post by Jon on Sept 15, 2016 17:01:21 GMT
Why the hell is everyone going on about this closing and not Book of Mormon or Matilda. I saw this a week last Thursday and its was full, had standing ovation and everyone adored it. STOP IT PEOPLE!!! I don't want it to close, but it has had a fair few offers about a lot recently so it wouldn't surprise me if by the end of 2017, but it has had an amazing response and run and I love the show!
The reason people don't go on about Book of Mormon or Matilda is you never see offers for them so they must be doing amazing business still, even after however long they have been doing.
Offers don't mean a show is doing badly, most shows chug along even with discounted tickets like Jersey Boys for example
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Post by Seriously on Sept 15, 2016 19:15:24 GMT
Any sign of this slowing down? Would be good to have the Aldwych available for a new show. I too hope that everyone on "Beautiful" is unemployed soon, so that Oleanna can see a new show.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2016 0:33:25 GMT
Decided spur of the moment to see the show on Monday for the second time! Really enjoyed it the last time and managed to bag a fourth row centre Dress Circle seat for the very cheap price of £20.00 when it is usually priced at £69.50 so happy bunny here.
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Post by Oleanna on Sept 16, 2016 6:41:22 GMT
Any sign of this slowing down? Would be good to have the Aldwych available for a new show. I too hope that everyone on "Beautiful" is unemployed soon, so that Oleanna can see a new show. Oh come off it, you know that that's not how this works. SaveSave
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 17:13:17 GMT
I am such an idiot -_-
Didn't think when booking the ticket and ended up booking to see the show when I've got an important audition in Cardiff that same day with no way of rescheduling. Ticket is set to collect at box office so there's no way I can try and pass it on to someone else.
I don't really care about the money (£15 isn't much at the end of the day), just hate having a ticket/seat going to waste.
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Post by justafan on Sept 18, 2016 17:57:25 GMT
Does anyone know if Matt Nalton has any up & coming shows as 'Gerry'? He's a great righteous brother but I'd love to catch him as Gerry
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 18:19:13 GMT
I'm actually really excited for tomorrow night! Haven't seen it since October and really enjoyed it then, so am looking forward to returning!
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Post by lou on Sept 18, 2016 19:28:48 GMT
I am such an idiot -_- Didn't think when booking the ticket and ended up booking to see the show when I've got an important audition in Cardiff that same day with no way of rescheduling. Ticket is set to collect at box office so there's no way I can try and pass it on to someone else. I don't really care about the money (£15 isn't much at the end of the day), just hate having a ticket/seat going to waste. When I collected at the box office I didn't get asked for ID. Can't recall the last time I did get asked for it at any box office.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 11:54:35 GMT
I am such an idiot -_- Didn't think when booking the ticket and ended up booking to see the show when I've got an important audition in Cardiff that same day with no way of rescheduling. Ticket is set to collect at box office so there's no way I can try and pass it on to someone else. I don't really care about the money (£15 isn't much at the end of the day), just hate having a ticket/seat going to waste. When I collected at the box office I didn't get asked for ID. Can't recall the last time I did get asked for it at any box office. Don't they ask for the debit card used to book the ticket? When I collected my ticket at Guys and Dolls, I wasn't asked for ID either but was asked for the card used to book the ticket. I read online somewhere that you can write a letter or note agreeing for another person to collect the ticket on your behalf, but not sure if that applies to all theatres or just ones under certain ownership (Delfont Mackintosh, Really Useful etc).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 18:06:23 GMT
God I love going to a show like Beautiful... generally the audience members are alot older, I feel like thebyouth for once! ... I may be having my midlife crisis a tad early. I'm 22.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 19:58:01 GMT
Great show so far, Cassidy is amazing as is the whole cast! I really do enjoy this show! Also, there was a disturbance in the Stalls near the beginning of the show. Don't know what it was but there seemed to be a loud yelp in the front corner, alot of peering over the Dress to see what happened, myself included. Clearly the cast hears, as Cassidy glanced over to see if all was well when she got the chance. The show didn't stop but alot of murmuring and confusion to what happened.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 20:05:09 GMT
Thinking of taking advantage of the offers on TodayTix and coming down sometime in the next few weeks. Would love to catch Cassidy as Carole and hey, I get to see the show earlier than I'd planned.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 21:34:10 GMT
Show was briliant, Cassidy is a superstar! The full Dress Circle gave a standing ovation at the end when she bowed, she was just phenomenal. This is onw of my fsvourite jukebox musicals, I just love it!
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Post by raiseitup on Nov 1, 2016 11:51:23 GMT
"On 28 November, Matthew Seadon-Young and Barbara Drennan will join the West End cast of Beautiful - The Carole King Musical to play Gerry Goffin (Carole King’s husband and song-writing partner) and Genie Klein (King’s mother) respectively. Cassidy Janson continues in the title role as well as Lorna Want as song-writer Cynthia Weil, a role for which she won the 2015 Olivier for Best Actress in a Supporting Role in a Musical and Ian McIntosh as song-writer Barry Mann. Joseph Prouse, who recently joined the company, plays Donnie Kirshner (music publisher and producer)." www.officiallondontheatre.co.uk/news/latest-news/article/item379344/new-cast-members-announced-for-beautiful/
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Post by westendwendy on Nov 1, 2016 12:06:25 GMT
In my opinion this is a good thing. I saw the show a few weeks ago and you could tell the guy who played Gerry had been in it a long time (unlike Lorna). He had also put on some weight.
I know you all scream at me when I mention weight issues but casting is casting and actors are given the jobs to suite the specific character. It's a tough business and being a stone overweight is not acceptable unless specified (it's worse in America) and love it or hate it - that's how the cooky crumbles in showbusiness.
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Post by talkstageytome on Nov 1, 2016 12:10:25 GMT
Funny that no one else has mentioned this supposed extra stone. But then, not everyone actually feels that it really matters that much. However, Matthew Seadon-Young is very talented and I'm sure he'll be a great addition to the cast. Looking forward to revisiting eventually (although I've been saying that since I saw the show during previews! )
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 12:27:34 GMT
Wow... and yet again weight is apparently an issue on this forum. Funny the same comments from the same person too.
It just amazes me that this kind of thought process exists in this day and age, and that people are so open to discriminate like this. And me being someone who has had mental health issues regarding food in the past, I can assure you it is these ignorant comments that cause issues to surface.
Both times I have seen the show I have found Alan attractive and very good in the role. His weight isn't and shouldn't be an issue. I didn't even notice he had put on weight! Don't be so damn ignorant!
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Post by theatremadness on Nov 1, 2016 14:22:40 GMT
In my opinion this is a good thing. I saw the show a few weeks ago and you could tell the guy who played Gerry had been in it a long time (unlike Lorna). He had also put on some weight. I know you all scream at me when I mention weight issues but casting is casting and actors are given the jobs to suite the specific character. It's a tough business and being a stone overweight is not acceptable unless specified (it's worse in America) and love it or hate it - that's how the cooky crumbles in showbusiness. It's 2016!!!! Come join us, won't you!!!
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Post by westendwendy on Nov 1, 2016 14:47:48 GMT
As someone who works in the profession I know many people who have been called into production meetings and told to lose weight from the creative team. It's not my evil opinion, it's the reality of the profession.
Of course it doesn't matter if someone is fat or thin in society. But when you have expensive costumes producers do not want fluctuating actors (going too thin either actually). It's simply about casting and briefs.
Alan is attractive but yes he has also put on weight since the start of the run. It's not about being ignorant it's a simple fact. I know people who have not got roles because they are too tall, too thin, too classic, too preppy, too English rose, too thin, too fat and others not in shape enough. Perhaps it's taboo for you to all accept. But weight is a huge issue in musical theatre and acting and TV industry. Women are either size 8/10 or 18/20. It's stereo typical but that's how it works. Ask Grindrod, Pippa, Debbie O'Brien - casting folk and producers don't want average.
Anyway back to Beautiful and it's a fabulous show and I hope to see it with the new cast soon!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 15:08:43 GMT
It's clearly not been a problem for him in Beautiful, until this point though. So I don't see why it even needs raising here. We have no idea what the intentions were behind his departure, and speculation that his weight was the reason is unfounded.
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Post by 49thand8th on Nov 1, 2016 15:09:27 GMT
Alan is attractive but yes he has also put on weight since the start of the run. It's not about being ignorant it's a simple fact. I know people who have not got roles because they are too tall, too thin, too classic, too preppy, too English rose, too thin, too fat and others not in shape enough. Perhaps it's taboo for you to all accept. But weight is a huge issue in musical theatre and acting and TV industry. Women are either size 8/10 or 18/20. It's stereo typical but that's how it works. Ask Grindrod, Pippa, Debbie O'Brien - casting folk and producers don't want average. Anyway back to Beautiful and it's a fabulous show and I hope to see it with the new cast soon! But why is that "how it works"? Why does it have to be that way? What are you doing to help, or are you supporting it by being complicit? You can shrug your shoulders and say "that's how it is," or you can be better about it. "Back to Beautiful," you say, sweeping your own issues under the rug...
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Post by westendwendy on Nov 1, 2016 15:32:17 GMT
A I never said that's the reason for his departure. He's a talented guy so good luck to him and I hope I see him in a show soon.
B I'm not brushing the issue under the carpet, as someone who has worked in the profession for 20 years I told you how it is (like it or not same for casting ugly actors in Hollyoaks or in Desparate Housewives etc).
C. 49thand8th I don't cast the shows but I'm sure most agents, casting director and producers in the world realise the reality of the profession. It's tough and physicality and weight matter. You're not going to get a Chicago dance chorus of size 12 women. You're just not. It's not about being better about it or worse - that is casting!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 16:12:05 GMT
As someone who works in the profession I know many people who have been called into production meetings and told to lose weight from the creative team. It's not my evil opinion, it's the reality of the profession. Of course it doesn't matter if someone is fat or thin in society. But when you have expensive costumes producers do not want fluctuating actors (going too thin either actually). It's simply about casting and briefs. Alan is attractive but yes he has also put on weight since the start of the run. It's not about being ignorant it's a simple fact. I know people who have not got roles because they are too tall, too thin, too classic, too preppy, too English rose, too thin, too fat and others not in shape enough. Perhaps it's taboo for you to all accept. But weight is a huge issue in musical theatre and acting and TV industry. Women are either size 8/10 or 18/20. It's stereo typical but that's how it works. Ask Grindrod, Pippa, Debbie O'Brien - casting folk and producers don't want average. Anyway back to Beautiful and it's a fabulous show and I hope to see it with the new cast soon! There is a huge difference between a couple of pounds and a couple of stones. I don't doubt the are some horrific people out there in the professional world who don't hire someone based on talent, but using the example of Alan and also another person yo have bashed Carrie, these are two talented, young people accaimed in their roles and other roles. Who gives a damn what size or weight when there really is no significant diference that would even cause concern to anyone. You say you work in the profession, but it is really not a professional thing to just go around bassphing people for their weight. Then again, you say you are in the profession, clearly with this level of disrespectful attitude you really don't belong there. Maybe best to stick to reviewing and discussing shows on here, not the weight of an actor... goodness knows you may go into a rant about sexuality or color next. 21st Century, look it up!
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Post by theatremadness on Nov 2, 2016 18:08:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 18:15:30 GMT
Ooooo how exciting!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 20:24:36 GMT
So pleased this is coming to Plymouth.
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