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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 21:27:18 GMT
Crazy to cut that part of Davies' intro! I heard it on the radio and thought it was very funny. He was clearly joking...
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Post by d'James on Apr 6, 2016 21:58:45 GMT
David Bedella was far superior to his Broadway counterpart, I can assure you. I've seen some comments on American boards wondering how THIS role could produce an award winning performance. Bedella found something in it no one else has found. Or he was the biggest name in the show, and for some reason they decided to reward it.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 7, 2016 8:14:17 GMT
Was so surprised at the win of David Bedella, I did not like his performance one bit! His acting was mediocre, his singing was poor and he was just irritating. Am I just missing something? Did I catch him on an off-night? I really thought Joe Aaron Ried, from In the Heights, was so much better than Bedella and would've deserved the award more. You must've done. While I am completely confused as to why he was nominated, David Bedella was singing and acting fine when I saw him. Thanks for your response! That makes sense about Bedella, we all have our off-days!
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Post by n1david on Apr 7, 2016 8:18:47 GMT
Thanks for posting that - yep, it was cut from the ITV3 broadcast - in the broadcast his speech ended after "enjoyed full houses". Bizarre given that the programme wasn't cut for time.
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Post by freckles on Apr 7, 2016 8:46:25 GMT
I have just caught up on the "full" broadcast, so I've now seen some of the bits cut from the highlights. I thought the Bend It performance was truly awful, and really did the show no favours (and I quite liked it!) I can only assume that they couldn't muster enough of the disbanded cast for a full number that would have represented the show better. In that respect 7BF7B put them to shame; that was lovely. Although I think the choreography in the recent UK tour was a bit more exciting. I had forgotten the Bugsy performance - I thought that a bit disappointing, as was the only other clip I've seen on TV (Sunday at the Palladium, or something.) - I haven't seen it live. I loved the Mischief Comedy guys presenting the "Award for best performance in a sequel". If you were fast forwarding through the show and missed it, see here:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 12:51:14 GMT
I'm very confused about Mark Shenton claiming that ITV/the Oliviers didn't broadcast the Bend It Like Beckham performance because they didn't want to show diversity, despite the fact that they showed the In the Heights performance and almost every other musical performance featured a person of colour. Think he needs to accept the fact that it's because the show has closed and he was one of the few people that was upset that it did.
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Post by lynette on Apr 7, 2016 16:07:57 GMT
Thanks freckles, I would have missed this otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 17:07:46 GMT
I'm very confused about Mark Shenton claiming that ITV/the Oliviers didn't broadcast the Bend It Like Beckham performance because they didn't want to show diversity, despite the fact that they showed the In the Heights performance and almost every other musical performance featured a person of colour. Think he needs to accept the fact that it's because the show has closed and he was one of the few people that was upset that it did. Exactly! I can't stand that man!! He annoys me so much because his views are so opinionated and he will make yku believe what he thinks. Considering the Oliviers did show diversity (with nominees, winners and performers), he needs to face the fact that the show has closed and was quite naff and just because he thought it was the best doesn't mean we have to think the same too!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 17:08:48 GMT
I loved the Mischief Comedy guys presenting the "Award for best performance in a sequel". If you were fast forwarding through the show and missed it, see here:'More Horse'...
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Post by rumbledoll on Apr 7, 2016 18:08:19 GMT
MoreHorse got me in stitches! )) Love these guys and their appearences wherever it is, never boring )
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Post by peggs on Apr 7, 2016 18:32:31 GMT
I loved the Mischief Comedy guys presenting the "Award for best performance in a sequel". If you were fast forwarding through the show and missed it, see here:Yes thanks Freckles didn't know this happened, best bit I've seen so far.
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Post by caa on Apr 8, 2016 8:22:13 GMT
I have just caught up on the "full" broadcast, so I've now seen some of the bits cut from the highlights. I thought the Bend It performance was truly awful, and really did the show no favours (and I quite liked it!) I can only assume that they couldn't muster enough of the disbanded cast for a full number that would have represented the show better. In that respect 7BF7B put them to shame; that was lovely. Although I think the choreography in the recent UK tour was a bit more exciting. I had forgotten the Bugsy performance - I thought that a bit disappointing, as was the only other clip I've seen on TV (Sunday at the Palladium, or something.) - I haven't seen it live. I loved the Mischief Comedy guys presenting the "Award for best performance in a sequel". If you were fast forwarding through the show and missed it, see here:Have to agree Bend it like Beckham wasn't good, but then Mrs Henderson wasn't that great either I would have chosen different songs for both shows, I wonder who decides which song will be used?
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Post by Honoured Guest on Apr 8, 2016 8:33:01 GMT
Have to agree Bend it like Beckham wasn't good, but then Mrs Henderson wasn't that great either I would have chosen different songs for both shows, I wonder who decides which song will be used? Maybe they each chose the other's songs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 8:45:36 GMT
Bend It Like Beckham should of picked a better song, it really did the show no favours. I would of thought they should of done Glorious or something to showcase Natalie. As for Henderson, it is the best song in the show and the only one that could of worked out of context and it showcased the two actresses so I am not surprised they chose it and it was possibly the best choice.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 8, 2016 8:51:28 GMT
I loved the Mrs. Henderson Presents performance and after watching it I am quite tempted to get day seats. I thought Emma William's voice was stunning!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 8:55:00 GMT
I loved the Mrs. Henderson Presents performance and after watching it I am quite tempted to get day seats. I thought Emma William's voice was stunning! I personally think, much as I love Lara and thought she was incredible, Emma should of won. She carries the whole show and the moment she ended that song in the show, I immediately thought Olivier Award. It is a real shame she didn't walk away with that award.
I'd recommend seeing it, I am sure it has only improved since I saw the first preview. I had a great time!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 8:58:30 GMT
*should have *would have *should have *could have *should have
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 9:33:51 GMT
I loved the Mrs. Henderson Presents performance and after watching it I am quite tempted to get day seats. I thought Emma William's voice was stunning! I personally think, much as I love Lara and thought she was incredible, Emma should of won. She carries the whole show and the moment she ended that song in the show, I immediately thought Olivier Award. It is a real shame she didn't walk away with that award.
I'd recommend seeing it, I am sure it has only improved since I saw the first preview. I had a great time!
I imagine it's because there was more of a character development for Lara Pulver in 'Gypsy' and she demonstrated a wide range, whereas Emma Williams was very pretty and sang nicely but there didn't seem much change between beginning and end. I thought the show flagged when she took centre stage myself whereas Lara Pulver really owned it when Imelda was off stage.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 8, 2016 10:27:35 GMT
I consider Lara a co-lead, with Imelda, but I know I am in the minority with that thought. I listened to some of the other music from Mrs. Henderson and it sounds a bit dated, but I think I'll still go and see it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 10:34:17 GMT
I consider Lara a co-lead, with Imelda, but I know I am in the minority with that thought. I listened to some of the other music from Mrs. Henderson and it sounds a bit dated, but I think I'll still go and see it. I actually agree that Louise should be considered Co-Lead. Not in singing demand, but in acting and the size of the role, somewhat more a leading role.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Apr 8, 2016 10:39:11 GMT
I consider Lara a co-lead, with Imelda, but I know I am in the minority with that thought. I listened to some of the other music from Mrs. Henderson and it sounds a bit dated, but I think I'll still go and see it. It's incredibly inconsistent. If Fantine is a lead role in Les miserables then Louise is also a lead role
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 10:45:08 GMT
I consider Lara a co-lead, with Imelda, but I know I am in the minority with that thought. I listened to some of the other music from Mrs. Henderson and it sounds a bit dated, but I think I'll still go and see it. It's incredibly inconsistent. If Fantine is a lead role in Les miserables then Louise is also a lead role Then shouldn't Emma Williams be classed as a co-lead too? She's on stage a similar amount of time as Lara Pulver in 'Gypsy' isn't she?
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 8, 2016 12:25:17 GMT
I consider Lara a co-lead, with Imelda, but I know I am in the minority with that thought. I listened to some of the other music from Mrs. Henderson and it sounds a bit dated, but I think I'll still go and see it. It's incredibly inconsistent. If Fantine is a lead role in Les miserables then Louise is also a lead role To be fair, back in those days, the Olivier's used to say everyone was lead. They even said Thénardier was lead!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 8, 2016 12:26:13 GMT
It's incredibly inconsistent. If Fantine is a lead role in Les miserables then Louise is also a lead role Then shouldn't Emma Williams be classed as a co-lead too? She's on stage a similar amount of time as Lara Pulver in 'Gypsy' isn't she? I haven't seen the show, has Emma a similar sized role to Ian Bartholomew and Tracie Bennett?
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Post by theatremadness on Apr 8, 2016 14:11:53 GMT
Following on from their sketch at the Olivier Awards (which in my opinion was one of the highlights of the entire evening), I'd love to see the Cornley Polytechnic Society (of The Play That Goes Wrong fame) host the Olivier Awards next year. I just think it would hilarious from start to finish.
If not, I'd throw my vote in for Rob Brydon. He was also hilarious when presenting an award this year, he's a brilliant comedian who can (and did, more so than Michael Ball) produce belly-laughs from a large audience, isn't adverse to poking fun at respected celebs/serious actors (which I really think would lighten the entire evening up) and making some controversial jokes to make the audience go "ooooo" - everyone likes that. He's also a bona fide actor and singer so could do a proper, original, funny opening number (like the Tony's - maybe written by Tim Minchin?) which I also think the Olivier's are crying out for.
I think the Tony's feel like an actual theatrical celebration, it feels like a musical itself, like a jukebox musical of performances from all the musicals and other special performances. It pokes fun, it's big, it's a real bloody spectacle of what makes theatre great. At the moment, the Olivier's are more of a dignified, gentle pat on the back. I think they should look at the awards themselves as being secondary to putting on an actual show. That way, the gravitas and celebration of winning an award will come from the adrenaline and excitement of feeling like you're watching a show.
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Post by mallardo on Apr 8, 2016 15:57:08 GMT
Much as I loved If Mountains Were Easy To Climb at the Oliviers, I'm thinking MHP should have done Emma's fan dance number with her dropping the fans at the end in careful lighting, as in the show. That's what the show's about and that would sell it.
Reminds me of The Full Monty at the Tony Awards several years back when the guys performed Let It Go and went through with the full strip - rather shocking the audience. It sure worked for them, the buzz from that was tremendous.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 19:00:49 GMT
My first thought was Rob Brydon to host next after his award presentation. Just brilliant!
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Post by peggs on Apr 8, 2016 23:20:35 GMT
My first thought was Rob Brydon to host next after his award presentation. Just brilliant! Yep, much the best presenter of the night
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Post by theatre-turtle on Apr 12, 2016 15:10:43 GMT
Does anyone know why Herbie wasn't part of the gypsy performance?
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 13, 2016 6:40:41 GMT
Does anyone know why Herbie wasn't part of the gypsy performance? When they turned the cameras on the nominees for 'Best Supporting Actor in a Musical', Gemma Sutton was holding up a picture of Peter Davison, so I assume he wasn't present at the ceremony.
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