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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 11:22:25 GMT
^Who the hell are you and what have you done with @ryan ? Ha! I know! I'm saying it and even I don't believe it! I'm very disappointed that the director chose to make Mr Norton stop at the shirt though. Jolly bad form. I mean equal opportunities and all...
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Post by mallardo on Jan 19, 2018 11:22:34 GMT
Ah, she didn't appear to struggle yesterday, and his "raid" seemed to just be his way of getting through the door. Maybe something was hidden from the angle I saw it from (low numbers side stalls). I think she was very exposed to the other side of the side stalls at one point, and to the rest pretty much until she got the towel on. It just seemed too much.
Struggle may be too strong a word but her body was clenched and resisting and the whole thing took maybe ten seconds before the towel covered her. I'll say again, it was staged to give her as much cover as possible - considering she was nude. And I don't see how it can be called gratuitous given its context in the play.
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Post by mallardo on Jan 19, 2018 12:39:07 GMT
The action you're talking about, TM, could never have been onstage. I think the playwright got it right.
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Post by jadnoop on Jan 19, 2018 13:05:25 GMT
It's interesting to hear the different views regarding the play's nudity. For me, I'm not sure that it was necessary, or 'logical' in terms of the characters' actions (I have no idea how people might act in situations like that). However, I found the scene shocking and matter-of-fact in a way that nudity on stage & film that I've seen so often isn't.
While it's true that the key event immedaitely prior happened off-stage, many of the play's key points did. While I don't necessarily agree that it would have been impossible to have had the scene on stage, it would have been a fundamentally different play.
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Post by lynette on Jan 19, 2018 13:19:39 GMT
The baby monitor thing is important because I felt right from the start that she had wanted a baby, hence her annoyance at what her husband was doing when she got home ..ahem. He obviously hadn't for all sorts of reasons which became clear, her fragile mental state, his problem.. and the baby crying noises were grotesquely what she wanted..as it were. Poorly expressed I know.
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Post by mallardo on Jan 19, 2018 13:24:51 GMT
The action you're talking about, TM, could never have been onstage it would have been a fundamentally different play Unless in that sense, with which I agree.
Yes, that sense. At last we can agree!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 15:18:35 GMT
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Post by cyport on Jan 30, 2018 9:32:11 GMT
Hi everyone, first post! I went to see this last night. I didn't think much of the play but I liked the natural tension that built up gradually. Imogen Poots was excellent and James Norton played well I thought. Had to laugh when the woman next to us was confused by the ending scene.
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Post by lynette on Jan 30, 2018 18:26:05 GMT
Hi, welcome to the Board, cyport.
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Post by vdcni on Feb 3, 2018 19:15:57 GMT
Wasn't particularly keen on this. Well acted for the most part but it drifted along in the middle and I felt my attention wander.
The Zack character didn't seem charming or cunning enough to have kept the pretence up all this time and really Poots kept the whole thing going until the final scenes which, at last, had some force and passion about them.
If it had a wider point than, hey here are some unhealthy people in an unhealthy relationship then it passed me by.
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Post by Latecomer on Feb 3, 2018 20:23:57 GMT
{Spoiler - click to view} I think this play was all about control. On the face of it Zack has the control...he is "looking after" Poot's character and physically does not allow her the phone at the end....but actually it is Poot's charatcter who has the control...she often puts down Zack with hurtful comments, originally proposed to him and he has spent his whole recent life trying to live up to her ideal and be her perfect man. At the end she says she is frustrated as he has never lived for himself but always to try and please her....and interestingly at the end she says she wants to look after him....while he finds himself. I think it is fascinating...the ways we control others in relationships.
I liked the play a lot....even as I could see how disfunctional both characters were. I liked the French couple at the end as a contrast, showing how a better couple might function. And Imogen Poots in lovely to watch...enchanting!
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Post by peggs on Feb 3, 2018 21:56:13 GMT
Well I thought Imogen poots really can act can't she and could be coming the market in amusing drunks. Beyond that I was ambling along wondering just what revelations were coming our way and amused by the very physical reaction of the audience to that for scene and then it all got more twisted and bloody and I'm afraid I had to do a stagger out before my body gave up and fainted on me. Sorry if I stood on anyone from here, in my slightly off stumbling I did here one man say ow in a very pointed fashion and all I can say in my defence is that front of house said they've had to stop it for a fainter before so just as well I got out. Watched rest on screen but I lost a few minutes so am not quite sure what happened. Anyone fancy enlightening me? She was just out of the bath when I existed.
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Post by vdcni on Feb 3, 2018 23:30:58 GMT
{Spoiler - click to view} I think this play was all about control. On the face of it Zack has the control...he is "looking after" Poot's character and physically does not allow her the phone at the end....but actually it is Poot's charatcter who has the control...she often puts down Zack with hurtful comments, originally proposed to him and he has spent his whole recent life trying to live up to her ideal and be her perfect man. At the end she says she is frustrated as he has never lived for himself but always to try and please her....and interestingly at the end she says she wants to look after him....while he finds himself. I think it is fascinating...the ways we control others in relationships.
I liked the play a lot....even as I could see how disfunctional both characters were. I liked the French couple at the end as a contrast, showing how a better couple might function. And Imogen Poots in lovely to watch...enchanting!
That might have worked for me if it ever felt like he was control in the first place but from the very beginning he seemed to be a complete mess already. The whole he doesn't have a job aspect was too obvious. Same with the French couple, yes they had a healthier relationship but that's pretty easy when neither of them, unlike the main couple, were on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Agree about Poots though.
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Post by showgirl on Feb 4, 2018 5:35:19 GMT
I saw this about 10 days ago, mainly to see what those above were talking about and in case I was missing something special. So imo, no: it was fine for what it was but quite forgettable and had it been in a less central venue or one with a lower profile, would probably have received far less attention.
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