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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 27, 2016 19:04:24 GMT
Okay we're on the same page that she is often 'disappointed', although I do not read all reviews generally that is impossible, so I see very little of her criticism, mainly I see her superior Michael Billington, who normally covers so much ground, especially for a Septuagenarian. As I have said on here before I find the Guardian the more earnest reviews, with others rewarding something more superior depending on their advertising budget, the Daily Telegragh and the Evening Standard are laughable,
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Post by crabtree on Jul 27, 2016 19:04:47 GMT
so does the big new banjo number replace 'If I had money to burn/buy me a banjo' or does it use both and show what progress Kipps has made? Is 'Economy' still there.
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Post by David J on Jul 27, 2016 20:11:26 GMT
Eh
This isn't a 2 star show so far
The sets and choreography are certainly the highlight of the show
The energy before Kip becomes rich is top notch from a fabulous cast whilst Charlie Stemp leaps and flips around
For the rest of the act the show becomes dull, and the love triangle is just not there with such a lack of development
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 20:46:22 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this transferred, maybe even to the Noel Coward for a period? Not sure where else it could go
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 21:08:02 GMT
Wouldn't be surprised if this transferred, maybe even to the Noel Coward for a period? Not sure where else it could go Does Cameron not have a habit of putting his shows on in his theaters? |
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 27, 2016 21:34:19 GMT
so does the big new banjo number replace 'If I had money to burn/buy me a banjo' or does it use both and show what progress Kipps has made? Is 'Economy' still there. The show uses both numbers. "If I had money to burn" in Act 1 and "Pick out a Simple Tune" in Act 2. "Economy" is one of the few numbers that has gone replaced at the same point in the show with "Look Alive" for Shalford and the Apprentices |
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Post by crabtree on Jul 27, 2016 21:55:14 GMT
oh that's a shame about 'Economy' as it certainly set up the financial theme
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 27, 2016 22:19:42 GMT
That is his theatre... Wouldn't be surprised if this transferred, maybe even to the Noel Coward for a period? Not sure where else it could go Does Cameron not have a habit of putting his shows on in his theaters? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 12:09:00 GMT
That is his theatre... Does Cameron not have a habit of putting his shows on in his theaters? Oh of course it is!!! Sorry |
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Post by djp on Jul 29, 2016 1:09:08 GMT
Cameron will bring it in to save face and because of the few decent reviews. I'm with Lyn Gardner on this one. It's really not good enough besides a lovely design and some choreography. Dreadfully old fashioned and the new songs add nothing. It won't sell a ticket but then again he has the money to spare. Audience loved it tonight. Massively positive response. Its got good choregraphy, really really good staging, a strong ensemble sound, and a talented cast. Ian Bartholomew and the two female leads put in class acts. Act two has also got some top West End ready big numbers - even if Act 1 took ages to get to its obvious ending . Its problem isn't that its old fashioned, you could make this a good story- umpteen stories have the same basic plot - its that its book is defective . Lyn Gardner gets it mostly rIght. Its message seems to be know your place.That leaves it going nowhere very interesting. The love triangle isn't built enough- even with some really good acting from Emma Williams and Devon-Elise Johnson trying to build deeper characters.The main problem is Kipps - who is shallow, and is besotted with Emma's character one minute at the end of act 1, and drifting away as soon as the next act starts. And I also agree there's something wrong with the Kipps character. He is a drippy twit, he doesn't grow, he just makes dumb choices and easy choices. That might make a bit more sense if you had someone more rugged like Tommy Steele in the role, but essentially he's doomed to be a drip by the script. |
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Post by theatrespy on Jul 29, 2016 8:34:20 GMT
The Stage's Mark Shenton has tweeted that booked into Noel Corward Theatre for September opening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 8:38:49 GMT
The Stage's Mark Shenton has tweeted that booked into Noel Corward Theatre for September opening. Called it!! Haha, if Cameron is so heavily involved with this show then it makes sense for him to put it in one of his empty theatres! Wonder if it'll be a limited season or open ended? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 9:08:56 GMT
The Stage's Mark Shenton has tweeted that booked into Noel Corward Theatre for September opening. Hurrah! I frankly can't be arsed to schlep all the way to Chichester so this would be great news. And there's to be a cast album too apparently. I do hope they will be taking the title literally and pricing the tickets accordingly. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 29, 2016 15:50:24 GMT
Well it doesn't surprise me that Cam Mack is transferring this into the WE given all the time and money lavished on the show. I just cannot see it setting the town alight at all. Even with discounts I cannot see it appealing.
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Post by zak97 on Jul 29, 2016 16:03:15 GMT
I'll be happy if it does come to the Noel Coward purely as this does sound like the sort of show I'd love and I know I won't make it to Chichester. That said, I can't see this being a financial hit, even in a small theatre, and won't extend beyond a limited run. It just seems for a show of this style to financially succeed you nee a name, like Imelda, or a show that is a family known, like Singin' in the Rain, and Half a Sixpence is sadly lacking in both departments.
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Post by mallardo on Jul 29, 2016 16:04:13 GMT
Emma Williams back at the Noel Coward? It appeals to me.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jul 30, 2016 11:30:47 GMT
I'm sorry but this will die a death if it transfers. Seriously. I admire CM for staging it.. But I just cannot see who it will appeal to beyond the few show people (who haven't seen it in Chichester already). It's old fashioned.. And not a classic like a Carousel/My Fair Lady.
Very risky indeed IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 11:33:55 GMT
I'm sorry but this will die a death if it transfers. Seriously. I admire CM for staging it.. But I just cannot see who it will appeal to beyond the few show people (who haven't seen it in Chichester already). It's old fashioned.. And not a classic like a Carousel/My Fair Lady. Very risky indeed IMO Atleast if it does transfer then it'll be to the Noel, where it has a better chance at surviving as the theatre is only 800 seats. Wouldn't last if it went to a bigger theatre - I totally get what you mean though |
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Post by Jon on Jul 30, 2016 12:00:51 GMT
I can't imagine it'll have a long run at the Noel Coward. I imagine 6-8 months tops.
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Post by wickedgrin on Jul 30, 2016 12:12:43 GMT
A great break for Charlie Stemp as Kipps though almost straight out of drama school with only and international tour of Mamma Mia and Ensemble in Wicked to his credits. Now the starring role in a WE show!
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Post by bramble on Jul 30, 2016 13:17:05 GMT
the trouble is as good as Mr Stemp is at dance and song he has not enough experience to carry this show, He nearly always acts as though he has been well drilled like the children in Mary Poppins i.e. someone else's idea of how he should be, This unfortunately ends up making him just look lost and hopeless.I still think they have turned something simple and charming into a big brash vulgar noise".Rain" is turned into a poor mans ascot gavotte".Flash bang" into a camp romp.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 19:37:09 GMT
It will do fine in a Cameron Mackintosh theatre for a limited run. If they do 2 weekday matinees, they should be ok, although that didn't help Mrs Henderson or Show Boat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 22:21:25 GMT
Baz appears confident of a transfer
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 30, 2016 22:42:16 GMT
Saw this, this afternoon in a packed theatre and if this doesn't get you leaving the house with a smile on your face and a spring in your step nothing will.
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 31, 2016 0:33:07 GMT
Saw this, this afternoon in a packed theatre and if this doesn't get you leaving the house with a smile on your face and a spring in your step nothing will. Also saw it this afternoon and enjoyed it hugely (far more than I thought likely after I'd read this thread!) but then I don't know the original well enough to be offended by the changes though I did notice a stylistic difference between old and new. I was impressed with young Charlie Stemp as Kipps even though his voice wasn't quite in the same league as his wonderful footwork, but the biggest grin-inducer for me was the gorgeous sound of the full ensemble in the big production numbers. |
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