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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 14:32:21 GMT
It refers to planning of, approval and control of productions but that could mean many things. Overseeing it all herself or using someone with directorial experience to oversee the other directors? I imagine that she would benefit from the latter, given her lack of experience in the area so that might mean a beefed up role for the Matthew Dunster position (Imogen, Hangmen, Tale of Two Cities (whoops)) wouldn't it? Is his role up for grabs? Who would be in the frame if it is, etc.?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 15:32:23 GMT
It does seem a trifle like the board are protecting themselves from a repeat, doesn't it. But probably some of the non-Performance factions will oppose some other aspect of the Performance programme in future that they haven't considered as a possibility and and so haven't yet proclaimed an official stipulation to prevent. That's where Michelle Terry will be in a stronger position to stand up for her position against the Academics and Heritageista and Traditionalist factions because she'll be able to smile sweetly and say: "Sorry, it's what Shakespeare would have wanted!" whereas Emma Rice could only say "Sorry, it's what 99% of the theatre world wants" which wasn't sufficient to placate the nuttier elements of the Globe.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jul 25, 2017 15:49:36 GMT
Sorry HG but 99% of the theatre world doesn't want Emma Rice style theatre. There is absolutely a place for her work as part of our broader theatrical landscape but hers is not the only way of making theatre or of telling stories.
Every major arts provider needs a range of voices and not all of them will please everyone - I am sure a very diverse group of directors will work in the Terry Globe, some you will like more than me, some I will like more that you. Which is as it should be.
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Post by publius on Jul 25, 2017 15:55:53 GMT
Sorry HG but 99% of the theatre world doesn't want Emma Rice style theatre. There is absolutely a place for her work as part of our broader theatrical landscape but hers is not the only way of making theatre or of telling stories. Every major arts provider needs a range of voices and not all of them will please everyone - I am sure a very diverse group of directors will work in the Terry Globe, some you will like more than me, some I will like more that you. Which is as it should be. There are plenty of theatres for traditional (or as close to it as possible before the pedants get involved!) and the innovative that, amongst others, Emma Rice falls within. There must, however, be equal protection for both traditional and innovative and its all very well saying that theatre must be more inclusive (something that is close to my heart) but it must not be at the expense of preserving heritage and culture that is currently out of vogue.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 11:56:38 GMT
Wonder if Michelle Terry's close relationship with the RSC (she's currently an Associate Artist) could lead to a closer relationship between the two. You could see (for instance) something like Nell Gwynn working well in a transfer to the RSC or Queen Anne working better at the Globe or Sam Wanamaker than it does in the Haymarket.
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Post by Coated on Jul 26, 2017 13:14:19 GMT
Michelle Terry has directed three short films, King John, Richard III and As You Like It for the complete walk project according to the telegraph. That might have been enough to indicate to the hiring panel what kind of director she would be, even if it's not stage directing
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 26, 2017 13:30:00 GMT
I hope so. I attended a QA with Lucy Bailey some years ago where she talked about there being a division in British classical theatre between "Globe people" and "RSC people" and implied you had to pin your colours firmly to one mast or the other, and never shall the twain meet. I hope that is not the case. Doesn't seem to be for actors, at any rate.
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Post by lynette on Jul 26, 2017 14:56:42 GMT
I hope so. I attended a QA with Lucy Bailey some years ago where she talked about there being a division in British classical theatre between "Globe people" and "RSC people" and implied you had to pin your colours firmly to one mast or the other, and never shall the twain meet. I hope that is not the case. Doesn't seem to be for actors, at any rate. Eh? I was an early supporter of The Globe even before it was built. I am quite happy with its development particularly the way it draws younger theatre goers and tourists. On the whole I have enjoyed the shows I've seen there. I'm on the keep the techie stuff to the minimum side but I didn't see any of the Rice regime shows. I will be seeing Much Ado soon. No reason why Ms Terry shouldn't do a decent job. AND I'm a supporter of the RSC...who knew? I see no problem pinning my lovely colours to both. The RSC has had its duds...Tamar's Revenge, anyone? But I'm a long term gal, a keeper.
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Post by peggs on Jul 26, 2017 19:15:45 GMT
I hope so. I attended a QA with Lucy Bailey some years ago where she talked about there being a division in British classical theatre between "Globe people" and "RSC people" and implied you had to pin your colours firmly to one mast or the other, and never shall the twain meet. I hope that is not the case. Doesn't seem to be for actors, at any rate. Eh? I was an early supporter of The Globe even before it was built. I am quite happy with its development particularly the way it draws younger theatre goers and tourists. On the whole I have enjoyed the shows I've seen there. I'm on the keep the techie stuff to the minimum side but I didn't see any of the Rice regime shows. I will be seeing Much Ado soon. No reason why Ms Terry shouldn't do a decent job. AND I'm a supporter of the RSC...who knew? I see no problem pinning my lovely colours to both. The RSC has had its duds...Tamar's Revenge, anyone? But I'm a long term gal, a keeper. Oh I read that and thought it meant sort of artistically professionally rather than as an audience member, I've done both and seen great and not so great at both, it's just the Globe is much more accessible for me and has cheaper options. Will look forward to your views regarding Much Ado lynette
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Post by mallardo on Jul 26, 2017 19:37:20 GMT
Do we know weather or not Michelle Terry will continue her acting career?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 19:47:25 GMT
She will be able to if she has time -
"An appointment package appropriate to the level of this position, with flexibility to accommodate some work away from the Globe, will be negotiated with the successful candidate in due course."
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"Depending on the skills of the successful applicant, the Artistic Director will undertake the roles of actor and/or director for productions from time to time"
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Post by lynette on Jul 26, 2017 20:38:55 GMT
Eh? I was an early supporter of The Globe even before it was built. I am quite happy with its development particularly the way it draws younger theatre goers and tourists. On the whole I have enjoyed the shows I've seen there. I'm on the keep the techie stuff to the minimum side but I didn't see any of the Rice regime shows. I will be seeing Much Ado soon. No reason why Ms Terry shouldn't do a decent job. AND I'm a supporter of the RSC...who knew? I see no problem pinning my lovely colours to both. The RSC has had its duds...Tamar's Revenge, anyone? But I'm a long term gal, a keeper. Oh I read that and thought it meant sort of artistically professionally rather than as an audience member, I've done both and seen great and not so great at both, it's just the Globe is much more accessible for me and has cheaper options. Will look forward to your views regarding Much Ado lynette So,did it mean actors and directors have to choose? Sorry if i misinterpreted the comment. Still daft. 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 20:49:22 GMT
Not a rule, but there was some sniffiness / suspicion - eg this from Roger Allam:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 7:13:16 GMT
I don't think you have to be an RSC stalwart to view the Globe as a tourist trap, that's pretty much my view as well!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 8:29:43 GMT
It is a legitimate theatre though, it's not like the half-assed shows you see in actual theme parks or the people performing scenes on demand in the gardens of Shakespeare's Birthplace. It's not that much more of a tourist trap than the RSC if we're being completely honest, in terms of people being as likely to visit it out of interest in Shakespearean history as to just see a play, and being able to take in a tour of the theatre and look at the exhibitions there and stop off at the gift shop on the way. The RSC's almost worse for it in some ways, after all there's not a *lot* to do in Stratford that's not Shakespeare-related...
(As an audience member I visit both, but the Globe being cheaper and more convenient means I'm much more likely to see everything they produce in a season than the RSC.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 8:36:21 GMT
I think they do some fabulous productions - I just hate the experience of going there. Every single time I've been there's been a baby crying and a fight amongst the groundlings... It's not so much the theatre as the audience it attracts, which in my experience seems to tend strongly towards people treating it as a tourist attraction and not a legitimate theatre, unfortunately.
Maybe I need to give it a second chance...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 8:43:46 GMT
Ah, that's a fair point. I guess it's all in the performance you end up at. Personally I try to avoid openings and closings because so many of the self-proclaimed regulars have behaved obnoxiously towards me in the past, but if you want to guarantee being surrounded by regulars rather than tourists, then you could use that to your advantage. Also I don't know how practical a suggestion it could be for you, but a midnight matinee is extremely unlikely to have babies or school parties in the audience...
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Post by lynette on Jul 27, 2017 10:29:57 GMT
Roger Allam one of the few actors who got the hang of the place. Brilliant Falstaff.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 10:35:49 GMT
Ah, that's a fair point. I guess it's all in the performance you end up at. Personally I try to avoid openings and closings because so many of the self-proclaimed regulars have behaved obnoxiously towards me in the past, but if you want to guarantee being surrounded by regulars rather than tourists, then you could use that to your advantage. Also I don't know how practical a suggestion it could be for you, but a midnight matinee is extremely unlikely to have babies or school parties in the audience... Personally I'm well aware that this is my problem with the Globe- the hardcore 'fans' being a bunch of cockwombles REALLY put me off a couple of years ago and I haven't been back. I know in my head if I go on a non opening/closing night and/or don't groundling then it'll be fine, they just left me with a bad taste.
So I resolve to make the effort and defy the cockwombles next season.
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Post by lynette on Jul 27, 2017 10:37:45 GMT
Never seen a fight in the groundlings. That would be fun...er, I mean...terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 10:41:19 GMT
Never seen a fight in the groundlings. That would be fun...er, I mean...terrible. I once saw a woman open a thermos and take out some hotdogs #notaeuphamism
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Post by samuelwhiskers on Jul 27, 2017 10:52:01 GMT
Oh I read that and thought it meant sort of artistically professionally rather than as an audience member, I've done both and seen great and not so great at both, it's just the Globe is much more accessible for me and has cheaper options. Will look forward to your views regarding Much Ado lynette So,did it mean actors and directors have to choose? Sorry if i misinterpreted the comment. Still daft. 😂 Sorry, my fault for not being clear. She was talking about directors and theatre-makers, not audience (and I think not so much actors).
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Post by peggs on Jul 27, 2017 12:44:45 GMT
I think they do some fabulous productions - I just hate the experience of going there. Every single time I've been there's been a baby crying and a fight amongst the groundlings... It's not so much the theatre as the audience it attracts, which in my experience seems to tend strongly towards people treating it as a tourist attraction and not a legitimate theatre, unfortunately. Maybe I need to give it a second chance... Yours is not the only experience I have heard of like that, does seem to be pot luck as to what audience you get, I've obviously been lucky, there's normally someone I want to cheerful wallop (being outside doesn't mean you can just chat through it!) but individuals rather than a collective and I've often met some lovely people who are there like me to see good theatre and not anything else but can imagine how that could easily ruin something and put you off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 16:05:41 GMT
As I waited in my preferred Yard position for A Midsummer Night's Dream, an attractive young couple who were very into each other arrived just by, and I gradually edged a little away. We didn't speak, except that the woman said to me: "Oh, you have to stand bang in the centre, do you?" Half an hour into the play, the woman disentangled herself from the man and pushed through the crowd to the front of the stage. It was only then I realised she was Hermia (Anjana Vasan).
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Post by cirque on Jul 28, 2017 9:32:24 GMT
To get back on topic the appointment of Michelle Terry may herald a new sort of leadership that becomes more widespread and thus reduces the overall agendas of directors.The voice of the actor and the play may become,once more,paramount.
Michelle Terry is in a fascinating position having worked with a range of directors across the spectrum that should ensure a broad church at Globe.
I doubted whether the new AD would have time to plan a full 2018 season given that we are nearing the close of the current one.However the implication does indeed suggest that she will be able to do this....one wonders how long she has been aware of the appointment.If so-this is good,no transfer programme but straight into a new plan.
Personally,Cant Wait.
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