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Post by peggs on May 12, 2018 6:53:23 GMT
There's a trailer up on the telegraph for the Antony Hopkins Lear, sorry on phone don't know how to link.
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Post by shady23 on May 12, 2018 6:56:52 GMT
It's the theatre special on BBC's Pointless tonight.
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Post by crowblack on May 15, 2018 22:52:29 GMT
Hope it's better than his last one! |
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Post by mistressjojo on May 16, 2018 1:59:15 GMT
Hope it's better than his last one! Apparently he was mistaken for a homeless person while filming, and some kind soul offered directions to a shelter! Not sure if that mean's the thing is any better for you crowblack |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 29, 2018 22:37:24 GMT
I'm surprised by how thick/lazy some 'entertainment' journalists are. I don't think I've seen a single article on the newly-released cast for The Crown that makes a reference to Erin Doherty's theatre work. Instead, they tell readers that her acting experience is one episode of Call the Midwife. I suppose it's no wonder kids think screen roles like that are just something that magically happens.
Great to see her go global in this - she's an amazing talent.
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Post by cheesy116 on Jul 30, 2018 0:13:03 GMT
Max Parker (I Cant Sing, Matilda, Guys and Dolls) is currently on Casualty. Baring in mind I don't watch it but I always see him tweet about it so there's a small chance he may not have actually had his episodes televised yet.
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Post by Stephen on Jul 30, 2018 2:20:26 GMT
Not an up to date mention but reminded after The Good Fight being mentioned above. 'The Good Wife' not only featured a stellar leading cast all with roots in theater but many many guest spots filled by Broadway actors. A few which spring to mind are Santino Fontana, Steven Pasquale and Nathan Lane. Alicia's son was also the lead kid in 13!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 7:16:48 GMT
I'm surprised by how thick/lazy some 'entertainment' journalists are. I don't think I've seen a single article on the newly-released cast for The Crown that makes a reference to Erin Doherty's theatre work. Instead, they tell readers that her acting experience is one episode of Call the Midwife. I suppose it's no wonder kids think screen roles like that are just something that magically happens. Great to see her go global in this - she's an amazing talent. Is it surprising though? They're probably either going by a press release or they just need to quickly knock something out. And to be fair, her theatre output is probably less than Carrie Hope Fletcher's and there are many well informed people on a theatre board who say they have no idea who she is so it's hardly a shock that someone from The Sun or Daily Hate Mail isn't going to know what Erin Doherty has been in. |
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Post by kathryn on Jul 30, 2018 8:35:07 GMT
There isn’t a theatre equivalent of IMDB for journalists to consult. If an actor isn’t well-known enough to have a detailed Wikipedia page it can be quite difficult to find out what all their theatre credits are. And often Wikipedia pages of even quite famous actors lack detail of their theatre work.
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Post by profquatermass on Jul 30, 2018 8:51:11 GMT
I've never heard of Erin Doherty and a quick google reveals a couple of roles at the Old Vic. She's hardly Juliet Stephenson. Most of these articles are headlined 'Where might you have seen XX?' and Call the Midwife is rather more likely than two plays in London
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 8:57:27 GMT
The Sun or Daily Hate Mail It was more wide ranging than the Sun etc (who have actually just added a line in another item they did at the weekend to the effect that she has done stage work - I presume someone must have pointed it out to them!). If they can look up IMDB (as they presumably did for the Call the Midwife reference) why don't they just look up her Spotlight profile or just spend 30 secs googling her name before telling their readers she's only done one thing? She's been the lead in several productions (and the saving grace of Aykbourn's The Divide) and was Billington's pick of the year. It's just weird that referring to - or even considering - their stage work doesn't seem to enter the profilers' heads. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 9:01:14 GMT
I think it's absolutely fair to focus on what the TV audiences may have seen, and Call The Midwife does reach a sizeable portion of the population, but if the filmed side of things is a little scant, then it's lazy journalism to not do a quick google. I found Erin Doherty's Spotlight page VERY quickly, and even if searching their name doesn't turn much up, "[actor name] agent" is a pretty good way to find a detailed CV, and then instead of putting "where might you have seen this actor before? lol just one episode of Call the Midwife" and leaving it there, you can also put "but she's done a good amount of stage work too, at theatres such as the Vics Old, Young, and Bristol". If you're a journalist writing an article and you can't bring yourself to do a little searching around - not just seeing if they have a Wikipedia entry and calling it a day if they don't - then yeah, you're a lazy journalist.
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 9:01:54 GMT
There isn’t a theatre equivalent of IMDB for journalists to consult. Spotlight. I just looked hers up. It took me all of 6 seconds. A newspaper would also presumably have IMDB Pro which would give them instant access to the actor's agent's name and PR agency, if they have one. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 9:03:54 GMT
I think it's absolutely fair to focus on what the TV audiences may have seen I understand that - what some of the articles seemed to imply was that was the only thing she'd done: that she was someone with little acting experience rather than, on stage, a leading actress. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 9:04:09 GMT
Spotlight isn't *super* accessible to plebs. It used to be more open, but these days you either have to have an account or have a direct link to an actor's page. That said, if you're a major enough publication with a decent amount of entertainment output, then it would be a very reasonable investment to make.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 9:04:56 GMT
I think it's absolutely fair to focus on what the TV audiences may have seen I understand that - what some of the articles seemed to imply was that was the only thing she'd done: that she was someone with little acting experience rather than, on stage, a leading actress. Which you will see I agreed with, assuming you read the rest of the post you quoted and didn't just glom in on the first line and leave it there!  |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 9:09:20 GMT
a couple of roles at the Old Vic Do a longer Google - award-winning in Wish List in Manchester and the Royal Court, touring in Jack Thorne's musical Junkyard, The Divide in Edinburgh and the Old Vic, Rachel Corrie at the Young Vic, Jack Thorne's Christmas Carol. Unusually for a young actor in this day and age, she doesn't promote herself on social media at all, though Billington talks about her a lot! |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 9:15:22 GMT
Spotlight isn't *super* accessible to plebs. Hers comes up instantly though: google her name and it's included on her BOV profile link. Newspapers would have IMDB Pro. |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 9:23:23 GMT
didn't just glom in on the first line I did read your whole post! I think maybe, as well as laziness, there is an issue where some journalists try to promote a 'fairy tale' impression to their readers about success. When Katherine Soper won the Bruntwood Prize, headlines were 'shop girl wins major prize'. As she painstakingly pointed out, she's a Cambridge English graduate who then did an MA in playwriting. Articles on Riz Ahmed would say he only managed to study drama thanks to a kindly benefactor, as though he were a Dickensian orphan - in fact, as he himself said to an interviewer who repeated this on radio, he'd already done a PPE degree at Christ Church, Oxford. |
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Post by kathryn on Jul 30, 2018 15:12:15 GMT
Spotlight isn't *super* accessible to plebs. Hers comes up instantly though: google her name and it's included on her BOV profile link. Newspapers would have IMDB Pro. It doesn’t come up instantly for me. In fact I never get Spotlight turn up as a result on the first results page when I Google anyone, just IMDB. I assume that’s tailored search results at work. Yes, newspapers should have IMDB Pro but freelancers wouldn’t necessarily have access it. Of course entertainment journalists should *try* to do better.... |
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Post by kathryn on Jul 30, 2018 15:13:25 GMT
a couple of roles at the Old Vic Do a longer Google - award-winning in Wish List in Manchester and the Royal Court, touring in Jack Thorne's musical Junkyard, The Divide in Edinburgh and the Old Vic, Rachel Corrie at the Young Vic, Jack Thorne's Christmas Carol. Unusually for a young actor in this day and age, she doesn't promote herself on social media at all, though Billington talks about her a lot! I think your search results are probably throwing up a lot more relevant results than mine are. Damn algorithm! |
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Post by kathryn on Jul 30, 2018 15:37:34 GMT
didn't just glom in on the first line I did read your whole post! I think maybe, as well as laziness, there is an issue where some journalists try to promote a 'fairy tale' impression to their readers about success. When Katherine Soper won the Bruntwood Prize, headlines were 'shop girl wins major prize'. As she painstakingly pointed out, she's a Cambridge English graduate who then did an MA in playwriting. Articles on Riz Ahmed would say he only managed to study drama thanks to a kindly benefactor, as though he were a Dickensian orphan - in fact, as he himself said to an interviewer who repeated this on radio, he'd already done a PPE degree at Christ Church, Oxford. Yes, that is true. You also have to consider the source - the tabloids tend to be very good on the soaps but know sod-all about film and theatre. Of course, they do know their audience - who are mainly TV viewers and not cinema- or theatre-goers. There’s a reason why the actors they tip to be the next Bond have always just been in a highly-rated TV series - they’re typically the actors their readers know about! |
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Post by crowblack on Jul 30, 2018 17:20:55 GMT
I never get Spotlight turn up as a result on the first results page when I Google anyone No, it wasn't Spotlight (which never seems to come up directly) but the first thing that came up for her, after The Crown news stories, was her BOV Theatre School page and these almost always have Spotlight links. Agency pages with CVs often come up high in the Google running order for actors too. Then there's the other extreme, I suppose: I saw a Guardian writer tweet this this week: "Daily press release arrives: here is an actress we represent and an impressive list of shows she’s starred in. Please put her in your publication. See attached photos for how nice she looks in just her pants." |
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Post by Jon on Aug 1, 2018 2:47:02 GMT
Alexia Khadime is in the ad for Fridge Raiders.
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Post by crowblack on Aug 1, 2018 23:21:07 GMT
someone from The Sun or Daily Hate Mail Turns out the Guardian is the worst offender - a really mean spirited piece by one of their TV reviewers Stuart Heritage. Jack Thorne and others have taken to Twitter about it. |
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