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Post by crabtree on Jun 21, 2017 21:30:53 GMT
to me, these guys are the definitive team, with such a string of dark, twisted, joyous and clever musicals. At the moment I am loving Scottsboro Boys and The Visit - oh that The Visit would be performed here. I feel so sad but nourished every time I listen to the score. You, You, You gets played on loop. And Scottsboro Boys - such a masterpiece.
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 2:43:46 GMT
Don't forget Kiss of the Spiderwpman. So underlooked and never produced these days. I need a major revival and often fantasize of who to cast. Get John Doyle.
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Post by alece10 on Jun 22, 2017 5:06:27 GMT
Also The Rink. Southwark really need to do it
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Post by ctas on Jun 22, 2017 6:01:46 GMT
The writers of my favourite musicals. I'm always glad we get relatively regular tours of Cabaret and Chicago but I wish people would perform their lesser-known works. And the Young Vic and subsequent West End runs of The Scottsboro Boys were such a treat, an absolutely unforgettable show. They're so masterful with music and the use of satire and subversion, I don't think there's anyone who could write quite the same kind of style.
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 7:28:35 GMT
Truly. I think they are more deserving of "Prince of Broadway" treatment than the Hal Prince portfolio- which is magnificent to begin with. There's The World Goes 'Round from the days when they did "revues", but a good curation of their work might be in order.
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Post by mallardo on Jun 22, 2017 8:26:58 GMT
I love K & E but - just to be contrary - they've had their fair share of clunkers. I would put The Happy Time, Woman of the Year, 70 Girls 70, The Act, Curtains and The Rink (sorry alece10) in that category. Flora the Red Menace is also not very good but it's a first effort so slack can be cut. Steel Pier and Kiss of The Spider Woman could be classified as almost good.
They have been at their best in Brechtian stage-within-a-stage shows like Chicago, The Scottsboro Boys and, of course, Cabaret. In that particular genre they are the kings.
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Post by alece10 on Jun 22, 2017 8:45:15 GMT
Also don't forget all the stuff they wrote for Liza including Liza with a Z when I think she gave her best performance ever.
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 9:47:41 GMT
Zorba?
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Post by mallardo on Jun 22, 2017 10:19:46 GMT
You're right, I forgot Zorba which is excellent and fits into that category of shows-staged-within-shows that they do so well. |
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Post by ali973 on Jun 22, 2017 10:51:44 GMT
I actually don't know much about Zorba
Kander has had two works since his partner's passing: The Landing and Kid Victory. I sort of forgot what The Landing is about, but Kid Victory is again in the vain of Dear Evan Hansen meets Next to Normal but not as pop/rock as these two. It's about a kid who disappears and comes back changed, how the town has changed and how they readapt to each other.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 12:22:58 GMT
Kid Victory sounds more Martin Guerre than DEH.
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Post by tmesis on Jun 22, 2017 16:58:23 GMT
Yes they're one of my favourites.
Kander is particularly adept at pastiche, probably only Sondheim is his equal in that area.
So...
Scottsboro Boys - Scott Joplin
Chicago - 20s jazz
Cabaret - Kurt Weill
This creates a distinctive sound-world to each musical and gives a stylistic freshness to each one. Each one is terrifically well integrated but also distinctive and musically unlike the others.
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Post by crabtree on Jun 22, 2017 19:18:57 GMT
Did anyone see The Visit? Was it as emotional and dark as it comes across on the CD, especially with the ailing Roger Rees. Steel Pier I have a fondn
ess for, but it didn't need the supernatural element, and I'm afraid I love the score to Curtains.
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Post by Deal J on Jun 23, 2017 11:28:56 GMT
I love the songs they did for the "New York, New York" film, and that musical end sequence is fifty shades of fabulous. Hey Betty, ya gonna sing tonight?
"Funny Lady" may pale massively in comparison to the original "Funny Girl", but it's worth it for their gorgeous "How Lucky Can You Get?" number.
And I'd give my Balenciaga Scarf to finally get to see a production of "Kiss of the Spider Woman".
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Post by dippy on Jun 23, 2017 17:16:54 GMT
I'm afraid I love the score to Curtains. I love Curtains and not just the score, I mean anyone who loves musicals has a bit of Frank Cioffi in them don't they? I'd say Curtains is my favorite of their musicals but naughtily I've not seen enough of them. |
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