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Post by Snciole on Feb 17, 2016 10:58:12 GMT
Does George Taylor get naked, Debbie? Asking for me. Everyone gets naked... Upon leaving last night I would not have recommended this but upon retrospect and some reading, I understand its brilliance. I would recommend doing a bit of reading up on Sarah Kane and her use of metaphor before hand, though it would suggest the flaw is that that is a necessity. I swore I wouldn't because Mitchell but I see there are a few £15 tickets left for tonight! |
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Post by DebbieDoesDouglas(Hodge) on Feb 17, 2016 11:35:59 GMT
Yes read up on Kane and if possible read the play (tis short)
I sat head on to the stage in the middle of the gallery. Couldn't hear everything they said which im assuming is done on purpose as they r wearing mics. Also, so dark I couldn't see their faces properly until the curtain call
I'd say if u have to sit on a side, facing the stage I'd sit on the right. U will obviously miss stuff but u only have one door u will miss compared to a door and corridor on the other side
Definitely going to see this later in the run again
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 12:37:46 GMT
The Friday rush front row seats for £20 can't be beat, though you will be getting an eyeful.
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Post by nash16 on Feb 17, 2016 13:01:01 GMT
I was sat 3 seats away from stage, on right hand side facing, and Debbie is right, you only miss a door, save the other side where I feel you would miss a lot. Hard to hear quite a bit of it, even with them mic'd. Why mic them at all? Sometimes, Katie… Nudity everywhere, but I felt serving the text. It's not an easy watch, and could understand why people would walk, especially NT members, who book Previews as standard. Students will go nuts for it. The older generation not so much. It's great to see Mitchell doing something brutal again though, after the children's shows. Great for Rufus bringing her back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 18:14:45 GMT
We sat v near Mamet for that awful Boston thing at the Donmar. Usually I would go over and say hi and something nice but honestly we thought it was so awful we just fled. I didn't spot Mike Leigh a few years ago at the Cottesloe until it was too late... We'd just seen Grief. He must have heard me say to friends that I thought it was infinitely better than the truly dreadful Two Thousand Years we'd seen there previously. (I actually told Samantha Spiro, who was holding a bucket and collecting for something after the latter that I thought she was the only good thing about it... She smiled politely.) |
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Post by Snciole on Feb 18, 2016 11:00:06 GMT
It turns out I am fine with Katie Mitchell as long as there is plenty of nudity and a smaller space. I wondered if the issue was Nick Hytner was putting her work in too large spaces, like the Lyttelton, for the work to make an impact and for shows to be so empty.
I'll be honest, I am not entirely sure I knew what was happening but Michelle Terry is such an engaging actress-both clothed and nude (I am now inspired to get to the gym ASAP to have a bottom like hers)-that I couldn't hate it, which I have done with Katie Mitchell. I really liked Tom Mothersdale's performance as Tinker too.
A few walk outs, quite empty and my terrible circle level seat meant I missed a lot of the gore.
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Post by mallardo on Feb 18, 2016 16:09:51 GMT
It turns out I am fine with Katie Mitchell as long as there is plenty of nudity and a smaller space. I wondered if the issue was Nick Hytner was putting her work in too large spaces, like the Lyttelton, for the work to make an impact and for shows to be so empty. I'll be honest, I am not entirely sure I knew what was happening but Michelle Terry is such an engaging actress-both clothed and nude (I am now inspired to get to the gym ASAP to have a bottom like hers)-that I couldn't hate it, which I have done with Katie Mitchell. I really liked Tom Mothersdale's performance as Tinker too. A few walk outs, quite empty and my terrible circle level seat meant I missed a lot of the gore.
Michelle Terry nude? So dreams do come true!
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Post by Snciole on Feb 18, 2016 18:08:34 GMT
It turns out I am fine with Katie Mitchell as long as there is plenty of nudity and a smaller space. I wondered if the issue was Nick Hytner was putting her work in too large spaces, like the Lyttelton, for the work to make an impact and for shows to be so empty. I'll be honest, I am not entirely sure I knew what was happening but Michelle Terry is such an engaging actress-both clothed and nude (I am now inspired to get to the gym ASAP to have a bottom like hers)-that I couldn't hate it, which I have done with Katie Mitchell. I really liked Tom Mothersdale's performance as Tinker too. A few walk outs, quite empty and my terrible circle level seat meant I missed a lot of the gore.
Michelle Terry nude? So dreams do come true!
Haha! I forgave Paul Ready for not being with me very suddenly (I am assuming they are still a couple?). Worth paying Dorfman's extortionate prices! At the risk of being vulgar I was relieved to see both actresses had pubic hair. Society seems to suggest women should be hairless like mole rats! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 18:35:04 GMT
All of these walk outs really annoy me actually. Don't these people know what they're going to get with Sarah Kane? It's hardly going to be a barrel of laughs with a tap routine and a comedy grandmother and it's generally going to get rather graphic.
Probably those really irritating people who used to write in to 'Points of View' to complain that Moira Stewart's cherry red jacket was totally inappropriate for the 10 o'clock news where the lead story was the death of a South American dictator. Idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 18:41:13 GMT
Agreed, you'd expect people to know about Kane - I'v never seen any of her work but I have read about it and heard about it from friends, and I have absolutely no desire to be exposed to it. So I just don't book!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 19:54:59 GMT
All of these walk outs really annoy me actually. Don't these people know what they're going to get with Sarah Kane? It's hardly going to be a barrel of laughs with a tap routine and a comedy grandmother and it's generally going to get rather graphic. I know quite a few people who have paid the NT subscription (or whatever it's called) and they book for every show without knowing anything about it. It's just something they do like throwing dinner parties, attending the school sports day, watching cricket... (I don't think they go to see anything else, anywhere else.) |
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Post by DebbieDoesDouglas(Hodge) on Feb 18, 2016 21:29:53 GMT
I wouldn't say all the walkouts where violence related, most people walked out during the chocolate eating scene
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Post by peggs on Feb 18, 2016 21:36:25 GMT
I wouldn't say all the walkouts where violence related, most people walked out during the chocolate eating scene Now that sounds pretty innocuous but perhaps not on the basis of some of the other comments on this so far? I picked up a copy of the play last week in the bookshop and had a flick through and thought not for me as I'd have been a fainting risk. To walk out in the middle of a scene (presumably this is what is being done) generally just seems plain rude to those on stage and those trying to watch unless it's so terribly awful or fundamentally something you have an issue with and even then...... |
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Post by Snciole on Feb 18, 2016 21:48:08 GMT
I wouldn't say all the walkouts where violence related, most people walked out during the chocolate eating scene It is a tedious scene, to be fair, and because I am a massive drama queen I was wondering if it was faeces? I think walk outs, though I have never done this, are bound to be expected in any play but most have an interval you can discretely leave at. I was determined to see every last bit of flesh for my £15 though. |
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Post by DebbieDoesDouglas(Hodge) on Feb 18, 2016 23:53:20 GMT
I didn't find the chocolate scene tedious, in fact I found it astonishing. All the way through I wondered why the cast where mic'd - it was for this scene. U cud hear the saliva in his mouth as he ate each one! Genius scene, it was torture but almosting lovingly and incredibly intimate.
However, lots of people were bored
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 11:38:37 GMT
I can't say I really understood what the play was about, I guess it's a rather bleak view of love as everyone seems to be punished in some way because of it. Either way it's a rather bleak, brutal affair but very well done and performed with real conviction from everyone involved. There was even a bit of Katie Mitchell slow motion stuff too which was nice.
No cast member really stands out from the others (well I suppose some of them do but in rather a very different way!) as they are all throw themselves into it with gusto but I will say Michelle Terry is a very brave actress indeed and I'm not sure I will look at her in the same way again.
We had a fainter, a few walk outs and a man in tears at the end so, all in all, rather a good day's work for the NT presenting Sarah Kane I should say.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 11:42:35 GMT
I've seen Twitter speculation that the fainter is a plant since it seems to be happening in every performance at exactly the same point. Haven't seen it yet - thoughts from those who have??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 11:48:27 GMT
I've seen Twitter speculation that the fainter is a plant since it seems to be happening in every performance at exactly the same point. Haven't seen it yet - thoughts from those who have?? Oh really? That's interesting. For what reason do you think? It happened during the dance sequence between Grace and Graham last night. Is that the same point as everyone else has had a fainter? |
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Post by foxa on Feb 20, 2016 13:54:46 GMT
I tried #Cleansed and some really interesting things came up - like a guy photographed with his doctor thanking him for cleansing his colon. Not the conversation I wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 14:14:47 GMT
I've seen Twitter speculation that the fainter is a plant since it seems to be happening in every performance at exactly the same point. Haven't seen it yet - thoughts from those who have?? Oh really? That's interesting. For what reason do you think? It happened during the dance sequence between Grace and Graham last night. Is that the same point as everyone else has had a fainter? Haven't seen it yet and hardly know the play so no idea why it would be or whether there's any likelihood - maybe a Brechtian attempt to distract the audience...? From other KM productions, she's not too fussed about whether people can actually watch. Am looking forward to finding out! |
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Post by DebbieDoesDouglas(Hodge) on Feb 20, 2016 14:27:23 GMT
The guy fainted just after the tongue cutting scene. The house lights came on but actors continued, albeit very slowly. Maybe it IS a plant?! It deffo made it feel more dangerous and I spent the rest of the show trying to sus out the next collapsie/walker out.
Question
When Tinker masturbates did he pull out his/a fake willy? I couldn't see but, due to the rest of the show, I don't imagine it was mimed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 15:00:58 GMT
That character may have been named after the late theatre critic of the Daily Mail.
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Post by Snciole on Feb 20, 2016 15:08:08 GMT
I didn't notice any fainted the night I went so maybe it is the same sensitive person coming back to try and make it through the night every other performance?
Who faints in their seat? I am not really fainting type (don't let my pretty dress choices fool you) so I don't know what makes people faint.
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Post by DebbieDoesDouglas(Hodge) on Feb 20, 2016 15:22:12 GMT
I fainted once but it was amphetamine related. I quite enjoyed it.
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Post by peggs on Feb 20, 2016 15:40:28 GMT
I didn't notice any fainted the night I went so maybe it is the same sensitive person coming back to try and make it through the night every other performance? Who faints in their seat? I am not really fainting type (don't let my pretty dress choices fool you) so I don't know what makes people faint. Well the post a few above where it says 'it's the tongue cutting scene' is enough to make me shudder safe at home, in the theatre that would would be a real trigger for me, often it's the suggestion more than the actuality so someone talking about 'cutting out a tongue' might actually be worse than in happening if I could shut my eyes fast enough. I've only actually fainted at the theatre once but have had other close calls, I try to steer clear of the obviously dangerous ones (not titus for me) and otherwise try to find out as much as possible in advance as it's always handy to know just how long you have to last out through a tricky bit. Oh and I've thought long and hard about the best way to faint in a seat, have come to the conclusion that if you slump down you really shouldn't go anywhere and as long you don't flop onto the person on either side you might even get away with it without anyone noticing  |
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