Xanderl
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Post by Xanderl on May 30, 2017 11:02:10 GMT
Details announced"The Winter Selection takes you to a singing chocolate factory in France in Romantics Anonymous; the inner sanctum of Elizabeth’s I court in The Secret Theatre; the dark and dangerous world of All’s Well That Ends Well; the palaces of India in The Captive Queen; the emotional depths of Vivaldi in a reimagining of The Four Seasons; and the tender chaos of Meow Meow’s Christmas in Apocalypse Meow, before tumbling down the rabbit hole with the return of The Little Matchgirl." Peak Emma Rice.
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Post by martin1965 on May 30, 2017 11:33:19 GMT
Absolutely shockingly bad programming imo!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 11:54:51 GMT
Absolutely shockingly bad programming imo! Really? How so? I think it all sounds rather delightful myself. I may be booking for a couple of those shows.
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Post by zahidf on May 30, 2017 12:17:27 GMT
Sounds like a good mix of stuff TBH.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 12:26:38 GMT
Apart from Meow Meow, I think this sounds rather good.
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Post by martin1965 on May 30, 2017 12:55:13 GMT
Absolutely shockingly bad programming imo! Really? How so? I think it all sounds rather delightful myself. I may be booking for a couple of those shows. Oh well, different strokes... I was under the impression the SWP was set up to explore the "jacobethan" and caroline repertoire, obviously im mistaken 😕😕
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Post by Xanderl on May 30, 2017 13:04:51 GMT
To be fair, two of the shows (Alls Well and Captive Queen) fit that description although as Captive Queen is a co-production with Northern Broadsides I may hang on to see if I can book for a more comfortable theatre!
The musical sounds fine, but that (and Meow Meow, and Matchgirl) just seem like Emma Rice shows plonked in an inappropriate space.
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Post by Honoured Guest on May 30, 2017 13:07:20 GMT
The Captive Queen by John Dryden (Caroline) The Secret Theatre is set in Elizabeth I's court (Jacobethan) All's Well that Ends Well directed by Caroline Byrne
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 14:10:46 GMT
I think all the shows sound very interesting but I will definitely want to see romantics anonymous as It seems intriguing. I may also check out meow meows show but other than that I will not desperately want to see the others. I also like the poster design with pictures of chocolate as for me it seems simple but effective.
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on May 30, 2017 14:31:58 GMT
To be fair, two of the shows (Alls Well and Captive Queen) fit that description although as Captive Queen is a co-production with Northern Broadsides I may hang on to see if I can book for a more comfortable theatre! The musical sounds fine, but that (and Meow Meow, and Matchgirl) just seem like Emma Rice shows plonked in an inappropriate space. The Little Matchgirl works perfectly in that space, I'd recommend it highly.
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Post by martin1965 on May 30, 2017 15:31:22 GMT
The Captive Queen by John Dryden (Caroline) The Secret Theatre is set in Elizabeth I's court (Jacobethan) All's Well that Ends Well directed by Caroline Byrne Massively helpful as ever!! The first is an adaptation, might be interesting but i will wait. Second is a new play and third is erm Shakespeare so not that category either. Rice clearly doesnt care as she is off soon.
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Post by martin1965 on May 30, 2017 15:32:21 GMT
To be fair, two of the shows (Alls Well and Captive Queen) fit that description although as Captive Queen is a co-production with Northern Broadsides I may hang on to see if I can book for a more comfortable theatre! The musical sounds fine, but that (and Meow Meow, and Matchgirl) just seem like Emma Rice shows plonked in an inappropriate space. They dont
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Post by Honoured Guest on May 30, 2017 15:58:24 GMT
third is erm Shakespeare so not that category either. Caroline Byrne
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Post by Xanderl on May 30, 2017 17:16:31 GMT
Shakespeare's plays have always been part of the Wanamaker's remit - including the whole of Dromgoole's last season there.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 30, 2017 17:59:25 GMT
I must admit that it does feel very much of a season of Rice indulgences - which is her right as Artistic Director. She is perfectly entitled to work with the people she wants to work with and on the sorts of projects that interest her.
However others are equally entitled to question whether this programme fits within the remit for which the SWP was built.
I was probably more disturbed by the fact that the director of All's Well feels the need to bring in a dramaturg into the production team. The plot of All's Well is not that complicated - clear story-telling is all that is needed to bring it to life. It indicates a desire on the part of the director to try to 'improve' on the original - which is not something that often works.
If you don't believe in the play and your ability to make it work on stage - don't direct it. Certainly don't seek to change the play in a radical way to make it work for you.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 18:10:31 GMT
It's Shakespeare. Let people twist and rewrite and reinterpret. He can stand it. All's Well may not be the most popular play but there'll still be another one along in a few years, and in the meantime, this one may even prove to be quite good.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 18:23:16 GMT
I'm firmly in team 'Shakespeare can handle some shake up' (geddit) but also re: dramaturg, it may not indicate a radical re-working but a personal preference of the director, some directors like to work with them across the board some don't- it may even be a confidence thing in terms of material (I don't know that director/their work tbh to make a call)
As for the 'was the theatre built for x or y' I'm also of the opinion that these things can evolve, and should according to what audiences respond to. Perfectly respect those who want the more firm line for the Globe repatoire, but personally I think it does the theatre and the audiences good if these things aren't set in stone.
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Post by hal9000 on May 30, 2017 19:03:54 GMT
Let's face it, it's Emma's Last Hurrah in the space.
Let her have fun with a new show.
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Post by partytentdown on May 30, 2017 20:26:27 GMT
I don't really understand the whole chocolate theme.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 20:43:29 GMT
I don't really understand the whole chocolate theme. On the whatsonstage article Rice said "I've always seen the Sam Wanamaker Playhouse as a little box of treats, encouraging the primal need to tell and hear stories and inviting tales and magic to unfurl beneath the flicker of the candles. For my final season as artistic director at the Globe, I knew I wanted to present the most delicious, unique and beautiful box of delights." I guess this sort of explains the chocolate theme but for me I really like it and it makes it a little more festive feeling
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Post by jadnoop on May 30, 2017 21:34:23 GMT
Not sure how much the plays announced appeal to me, but definitely excited by some of the music.
Max Richter's Four Seasons recomposition with a major puppet show sounds intriguing, and the Bjarne Eike and Barokksolistene 'ale + live music' night sounds like great fun.
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 31, 2017 6:28:33 GMT
What is worse then an Emma Rice directed production? it's sitting in a very uncomfortable theatre seat with terrrible sight lines and watching an Emma Rice directed production
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Post by cirque on May 31, 2017 7:13:14 GMT
Dramaturg is European concept....makes them sound right on,which is,very much what the current regime want to be. Shortlist anyone.......must be near final interview time now that winter season announced.
Love the quotes from company begging to keep the joy after ER leaves......oh,I doubt it.For all the years before her it's been a dull and gloomy place with small audiences in misery.
Believe the mythology........how can she be doing so many ?Kneehigh shows this season on tour and Globe as well.
It's not anti ER.....it's the stupid mythology set up around her that I find so rediculous.
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Post by lynette on May 31, 2017 9:40:44 GMT
The Alls Well is tempting. But uncomfortable seating means thinking twice before booking in advance. I'm not sure I can face it.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 9:44:28 GMT
I don't really understand the whole chocolate theme. Will the chocolate melt on the candles?
Do we get chocolate if we go? because then frankly I'd be tempted
For someone who really doesn't love the Globe in general I spend a lot of time defending Emma Rice haha
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Post by Cardinal Pirelli on May 31, 2017 10:45:24 GMT
So being European is 'right on'? What is this, a UKIP Conference?
Dramaturgy originated centuries ago in Germany before it was Germany as we know it, so the Free Imperial City of Hamburg is more accurate. What a dramaturg brings is another eye, a way of making sure that the director/author isn't a dictator. Something that most people will appreciate (although not the dictatorially inclined).
I imagine that if they were called a Dramatic Adviser that would be considered more acceptable in certain quarters.
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Post by Xanderl on Jan 29, 2018 15:53:02 GMT
Good offer for The Captive Queen - £20 off the top three price bands with code pcd20dis. Just booked one of my favoured seats in the front row of the pit for £18.
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Post by Xanderl on Feb 25, 2018 9:08:36 GMT
Saw "The Captive Queen" yesterday. Worth a visit if you like your 17th Century drama (how many other opportunities are you going to get to see "Aureng-zebe"?) but a flawed production
Seems to be a pretty straight rendition of the text. The setting is a garment factory in Yorkshire in (I think) the 70s - this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and the production makes no use of the setting except at a couple of points. So you get a very detailed set of the factory, everyone dressed as garment factory workers, but they are all threatening to kill each other, invade the city, capture queens, etc. Would possibly have worked if there was a framing device like the Donmar Shakespeare Trilogy, ie the conceit is that the characters in the garment factory are putting on the play. But this didn't seem to be the case. Or if it was the case, it wasn't clear at all.
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Post by martin1965 on Feb 25, 2018 9:30:19 GMT
Wanted to see this when announced, it is a rare outing. However the combination of Barrie Rutter, the ridiculous updating and transport shenanigans put me off. From the reviews im glad. Doesnt sound like you bought a programme Mr X?
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Post by Xanderl on Feb 25, 2018 9:54:15 GMT
No, didn't buy a programme, which might have clarified the setting, but you shouldn't need the programme to do that!
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