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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 7:32:37 GMT
Ive just booked tickets for EK's Aida without much knowledge of what Im letting myself in for. I've been aware of Aida as an opera for years but as far as Im aware I dont know any of the music or story. Reading up on it this production is sung in Italian with English subtitles and features a 'real live horse'. What am I letting myself in for?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 7:39:27 GMT
Please report back when you've experienced it.
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 3, 2017 12:21:53 GMT
Does Aida need a horse? No. But I guess horses are cheaper than elephants
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Post by Mr Snow on May 5, 2017 8:10:20 GMT
If you don’t know anything about Aida then I’m guessing this is an early introduction to Opera? Good luck.
Aida is one of the crowning glories of Musical Theatre and I really hope you have a great time. Tuneful, influential and can be extremely moving.
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Aida is really at heart a love story that can break your heart with sensitive production, conducting and singing and probably for that reason hasn’t been featured as much in Opera Houses today as it was in the past.
The Ellen Kent production is very traditional and as the addition of a horse suggests, goes heavy on the Spectacular (but with a very limited budget!). The problem is this unbalances the evening because fun though it is, it all happens in the first act. The real beauty unfolds during the Opera if the performers are good enough.
It will serve as a good introduction. I saw her tour of this a few years ago and it was Ok but I still hope to see great.
If you don’t have the inclination to get a CD familiarise yourself by spending a little time on Youtube Look for Celeste Aida. Pavarotti Aida. Grand March (You will know this one) O Patria Mia . Maria Callas.
(there’s plenty more highlights.)
Please report your findings here.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 11:04:50 GMT
Unfortunately I was unable to make it so nothing to report but I know the EK production does the rounds every year or so, so hopefully next year I'll get there.
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Post by grannyjx6 on May 10, 2017 23:50:51 GMT
I saw it a couple of years back for the first time. It was advertised as a having horses and spectacular scenes when thousands of soldiers parade before the king. To enable this to appear to happen, the small cast had to go from one side of the stage to the other, then run round the back and start again. You could see them trying hard not to show they were out of breath. Not exactly what I thought it would be.
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Post by tonyloco on Sept 13, 2017 12:34:23 GMT
If you don’t know anything about Aida then I’m guessing this is an early introduction to Opera? Good luck. Aida is one of the crowning glories of Musical Theatre and I really hope you have a great time. Tuneful, influential and can be extremely moving. But Aida is really at heart a love story that can break your heart with sensitive production, conducting and singing and probably for that reason hasn’t been featured as much in Opera Houses today as it was in the past. The Ellen Kent production is very traditional and as the addition of a horse suggests, goes heavy on the Spectacular (but with a very limited budget!). The problem is this unbalances the evening because fun though it is, it all happens in the first act. The real beauty unfolds during the Opera if the performers are good enough. It will serve as a good introduction. I saw her tour of this a few years ago and it was Ok but I still hope to see great.If you don’t have the inclination to get a CD familiarise yourself by spending a little time on Youtube Look for Celeste Aida. Pavarotti Aida. Grand March (You will know this one) O Patria Mia . Maria Callas. (there’s plenty more highlights.) Please report your findings here. If I may resurrect this thread – Mr Snow, do you mean you hope to see great from an Ellen Kent production of Aida or from any production? If you mean the latter, then it has been my great privilege to hear what I consider the best ever Aida and Radames at Covent Garden in 1962 when Galina Vishnevskaya sang Aida opposite Jon Vickers as Radames. To say it was sensational would be an understatement and I can still hear Vickers at the end of Act III with his brilliantly incisive: 'Sacerdoti! Io resto a te!' A thrilling end to a thrilling Nile Scene, and the rest of the evening was just as good. My two best Amnerises were Giulietta Simionato and Fiorenza Cossotto. Amy Shuard and Charles Craig were an ever-reliable pair of lovers and of course Shuard was hugely popular with the Covent Garden audiences back in the 1960s, but Vishnevskaya and Vickers lifted Aida to another plane entirely.
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Post by Mr Snow on Sept 13, 2017 15:34:43 GMT
Loving your reminiscing Tony. (What a great name that is! At least the Americans realise it.). Though perhaps you should have called yourself Antoniopazzo!
I came just after Vickers and Sutherland but I’ve heard many fine singers since. Charles Craig was wonderful and under appreciated by so many, just like Dennis O’Neil.
Sadly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a production do Aida proud. Saw another warhorse effort at Earls Court and I know I’ve seen it at ROH, but I can remember nothing. So I have high hopes and will gladly go twice if its worth it.
(PS one day I plan to reorganise all my books and programmes (“Junk” Mrs Snow.) and spreadsheet all the productions I’ve seen.
T.
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Post by tonyloco on Sept 13, 2017 18:30:05 GMT
Being an Aussie, I am Anthony with an 'h' but my Italian grandfather after whom I was named was actually Antonino so that's what I should have been christened and then I could be Nino – much classier than Tony or Toni, at least that's what I think. N.
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Post by Mr Snow on Sept 14, 2017 6:50:27 GMT
Being an Aussie, I am Anthony with an 'h' but my Italian grandfather after whom I was named was actually Antonino so that's what I should have been christened and then I could be Nino – much classier than Tony or Toni, at least that's what I think. N. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tonyI think the Americans get this one right.
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Post by bimse on Sept 16, 2017 15:15:16 GMT
I saw a few of Ellen Kent's opera presentations in Manchester a few years back and hated the productions , they were so cheap and very amateurish , despite some good singers, including Aida which had a procession of a large number of locally recruited blacked-up slaves in chains, sack cloth outfits and Phyllis Diller wigs . Ludicrous. The barber of Seville was just a cheap production and boring , Rigoletto was better but I think the courtiers had provided their own shoes, lots of tatty trainers on view. The storm scene was an off stage fan with someone throwing on screwed up pages from the Manchester evening news. Norma was surprisingly well sung, for one night only , stand and deliver , Druid outfits and some stone henge type boulders .
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Post by bimse on Sept 16, 2017 15:16:47 GMT
Forgot to add, no animals , these were earlier productions , I think most of her later presentations have introduced an animal or two .
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Post by tonyloco on Sept 16, 2017 18:14:05 GMT
saw a few of Ellen Kent's opera presentations in Manchester a few years back and hated the productions , they were so cheap and very amateurish , despite some good singers, including Aida which had a procession of a large number of locally recruited blacked-up slaves in chains, sack cloth outfits and Phyllis Diller wigs . Ludicrous. I know Frankie Howerd used to say: 'Don't mock the afflicted' but I can't resist adding my diary note on an Ellen Kent 'Aida' to what bimse has said: AIDA (Wimbledon) – I stayed only until the end of the Triumph Scene. The good things about the production were the amazingly lavish costumes (even Amonasro had more gold around his neck than there is in the current UK reserves) and the splendid sets, as well as the chorus and the three deep-voiced men singing Amonasro, Ramphis and the King who were all top class. Sadly the three main principals were all inadequate in various ways. The Aida had a big voice but paid scant attention to Verdi’s note values and her pitching of most of her high notes was wild to say the least. Even the final note of her very first phrase was a semitone flat! And her acting ability was non-existent. The Amneris was a better singer but the voice was too soft-grained to do justice to the music and her acting was only marginally better than Aida’s. The Korean tenor belted out ‘Celeste Aida’ as if it was Otello’s ‘Esultate’ and then seemed exhausted for the rest of the time! He ducked the final high note on ‘Immenso Ftha’, opting to sing a third lower on the same note as the penultimate ‘Immenso Ftha’ and then in the ensemble at the end of the Triumph Scene he barely moved his lips most of the time, indicating that he was not bothering to sing, except on the couple of occasions where he clearly had the main line. It was also a serious mistake inviting the local dancing school to provide students for the production. The four rather ungainly girls who performed the Blackamoor dance in Act II Scene 1 were ghastly, and were still completing their uninspired routine four bars after the orchestra had finished! Several other gawky teenagers dressed the stage during the ballet in the Triumph Scene, which was danced by six proper ballet dancers but to poor choreography, and the Ethiopian prisoners, all wearing nasty black curly wigs, were a frightful mixture of very young children and some particularly ugly adults, whom I took to be the staff of the school! The orchestra was competent, but lacked enough strings to balance the over-enthusiastic brass. But the conducting was good, and I was particularly impressed at the way the conductor managed to hold everything together even when the people onstage were being rhythmically wayward! I decided to leave before the Nile Scene because although I would have enjoyed hearing Amonasro’s contribution, I felt that the subsequent duet between Radames and Aida would be fairly dire, and Act IV would be even less acceptable, especially as it seemed that Radames had sung himself out, Aida could not sing in tune and Amneris had insufficient vocal and dramatic power to make the Judgement Scene work.
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Post by tonyloco on Sept 17, 2017 13:16:58 GMT
Sadly, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a production do Aida proud. If I may carry on with my unstoppable reminiscences – the production at the ROH in the early 1960s was fairly awful. The women's costumes looked as if the designs had been painted on some kind of canvas and one night Simionato, apparently to impress her fiancé who was in the audience, appeared in the very glamorous Amneris costumes from La Scala and looked a million dollars but made the rest of the female costumes look like sh*te. Also, Vishnevskaya wore her own costumes, which included a very tight black number for the Nile scene with a slit up one side, through which at one point she thrust her leg right up to the thigh, to an audible gasp of disapproval from the stalls. She was never again invited to perform at Covent Garden! But in spite of the terrible production, we had some amazing singers including the distinguished Sraussian singer Claire Watson (I think she was in London to sing the Marschallin) and Anita Valkki, who was appearing as Brünnhilde. And it was in that production that for one performance only we had Christa Ludwig as Amneris, for which I sat in the Stalls Circle right up against the proscenium. In the early scenes it sounded a bit Mahlerian but, my goodness, by the judgement scene, she was fully wound up and it was just sensational!
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