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Post by wickedgrin on Oct 14, 2016 1:17:26 GMT
Thank goodness for that.
Plus with a 1.00pm start and say a 4.30pm finish she may get a bit of a nap in the 3 hours between shows!
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Post by Jan on Oct 14, 2016 6:00:47 GMT
Yes, Lear is a long play unless cuts are made. I am amazed they did not realise this from the beginning! Expect plenty of latecomers! Great for the "Bad Behaviour" thread! Also Deborah Warner is an uncompromising director, not inclined to "make it more accessible" with big cuts - I think a 3:30 running time for Lear is still cut though, probably 3:45 for the full text. I saw Warner's last King Lear which was with Brian Cox, it wasn't her best work so that is presumably why she's having another go
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Post by Xanderl on Oct 14, 2016 6:17:28 GMT
Ah, I'd forgotten it was Deborah Warner. If I recall correctly the Barbican had to move the start time of her Julius Caesar due to the run time, and possibly the same for her version of School for Scandal (which was well over 3 hours). Makes it even odder that they didn't realise this from the start.
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 14, 2016 9:11:51 GMT
Yes, Lear is a long play unless cuts are made. I am amazed they did not realise this from the beginning! Expect plenty of latecomers! Great for the "Bad Behaviour" thread! Also Deborah Warner is an uncompromising director, not inclined to "make it more accessible" with big cuts - I think a 3:30 running time for Lear is still cut though, probably 3:45 for the full text. I saw Warner's last King Lear which was with Brian Cox, it wasn't her best work so that is presumably why she's having another go I seem to recall she'd done one before with Kick theatre too. I enjoyed the Cox one, though i seem to recall Cox putting a Red Nose Day red nose on the dead Cornelia's nose, which struck me as a terrible directorial decision. McKellen was Kent, of course, very impressive; and it was presumably a very fine cast, though I've seen so many I can never remember who were Goneril and Regan in any given production. Same is true with Polonius and Claudius.
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Post by Jan on Oct 14, 2016 9:54:09 GMT
Also Deborah Warner is an uncompromising director, not inclined to "make it more accessible" with big cuts - I think a 3:30 running time for Lear is still cut though, probably 3:45 for the full text. I saw Warner's last King Lear which was with Brian Cox, it wasn't her best work so that is presumably why she's having another go I seem to recall she'd done one before with Kick theatre too. I enjoyed the Cox one, though i seem to recall Cox putting a Red Nose Day red nose on the dead Cornelia's nose, which struck me as a terrible directorial decision. McKellen was Kent, of course, very impressive; and it was presumably a very fine cast, though I've seen so many I can never remember who were Goneril and Regan in any given production. Same is true with Polonius and Claudius. Yes she had done it with Kick before so this will be her third. Her NT production was cross-cast with the McKellen Ricard III. I thought McKellen was somewhat miscast as Kent but David Bradley was almost definitively good as the Fool. The red nose thing was just hinting at the familiar suggestion that in Shakespeare's day Cordelia and Fool would have been played by the same actor - I've never seen that explicitly done even though having a female Fool has been quite common.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 10:00:50 GMT
I know it's frightfully childish of me but I do always have to stifle a snigger when someone mentions Goneril in 'Lear'.
"Oh Your Majesty, I don't know where your daughter is. She was out with the troops last night and I think she's gone and caught herself a particularly itchy case of goneril."
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Post by profquatermass on Oct 14, 2016 10:23:04 GMT
Ah, I'd forgotten it was Deborah Warner. If I recall correctly the Barbican had to move the start time of her Julius Caesar due to the run time, and possibly the same for her version of School for Scandal (which was well over 3 hours). Makes it even odder that they didn't realise this from the start. Actually I'm pretty sure that not only did they not change the start time but it was actually 7.45 (for a four hour show). Ludicrous for anyone travelling further than Zone 1
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Post by Honoured Guest on Oct 14, 2016 10:51:23 GMT
Actually I'm pretty sure that not only did they not change the start time but it was actually 7.45 (for a four hour show). Ludicrous for anyone travelling further than Zone 1 That would have given people some time to eat something beforehand. Very long operas start early (say at 5.00pm) and have a 50 minute interval (giving the performers a break and everyone time for a snack) before concluding around 11.00. But that wouldn't work for most drama because such a long interval would seriously disrupt the play, and too few people would be free to show up for a 5.00pm start. A 7.00 start is awkwardly early for many people, and definitely too early for others to be able to commit to attending. With a long performance, you can't suit everyone!
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Post by Honoured Guest on Oct 14, 2016 11:16:53 GMT
I attended an already long ENO opera (Don Carlos) with an unforeseen long interval for a bomb scare in the days when the IRA was regularly active in London. About half the audience hung around the theatre, despite having been advised to leave the area, and returned to our seats when the theatre had been checked for incendiary devices. As there are several versions of Don Carlos, we were then informed that the performance would be switched to one of the shorter ones, so it ended not much later than the time originally planned. Not an option with most drama!
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Post by profquatermass on Oct 14, 2016 11:20:28 GMT
Actually I'm pretty sure that not only did they not change the start time but it was actually 7.45 (for a four hour show). Ludicrous for anyone travelling further than Zone 1 That would have given people some time to eat something beforehand. Very long operas start early (say at 5.00pm) and have a 50 minute interval (giving the performers a break and everyone time for a snack) before concluding around 11.00. But that wouldn't work for most drama because such a long interval would seriously disrupt the play, and too few people would be free to show up for a 5.00pm start. A 7.00 start is awkwardly early for many people, and definitely too early for others to be able to commit to attending. With a long performance, you can't suit everyone! I suspect more people can turn up at 7.00 than can get home easily at midnight
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Post by Jan on Oct 14, 2016 13:37:44 GMT
Actually I'm pretty sure that not only did they not change the start time but it was actually 7.45 (for a four hour show). Ludicrous for anyone travelling further than Zone 1 That would have given people some time to eat something beforehand. Very long operas start early (say at 5.00pm) and have a 50 minute interval (giving the performers a break and everyone time for a snack) before concluding around 11.00. But that wouldn't work for most drama because such a long interval would seriously disrupt the play, and too few people would be free to show up for a 5.00pm start. A 7.00 start is awkwardly early for many people, and definitely too early for others to be able to commit to attending. With a long performance, you can't suit everyone! For me the main inconvenience of a 7:00 or 7:15 start is the crowd of people who turn up at 7:30 anyway and barge in mid-performance. In the old days the Almeida always used to start at 8:00. Even now for a short play they will sometimes start after 7:30.
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Post by Honoured Guest on Oct 14, 2016 14:22:31 GMT
In the old days the Almeida always used to start at 8:00. When Noel Coward wrote "Tonight at 8.30", the play started at 8.30, as was quite common at that time. In the 80s the Royal Court Downstairs usually started at 8.00. In those days, there was much more generally clear demarcation between the day (with more people working from 9 to 5) and the evening. Nowadays, many people's working day starts much earlier than then, and so the evening has been pulled in to collide with the day.
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Post by youngoffender on Oct 21, 2016 14:34:46 GMT
Well, I just hope that we get more Glenda for our money, not half an hour of extemporised clowning from Rhys Ifans.
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Post by Xanderl on Oct 21, 2016 17:23:31 GMT
extra performances added - They will be on the 12, 14, 18, 26 Nov at 7pm and 3 Dec at 1pm
On sale Monday at 12:00
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Post by Snciole on Oct 22, 2016 13:25:02 GMT
That's interesting. Do you think Jackson said "Yes, I can do more shows! Bring it on!" Or that they were always going to be released later?
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 22, 2016 17:58:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 7:34:54 GMT
Seeing this tonight. VERY excited but slightly worried about catching the last train home. If it goes over 15 mins late then I shall be the one standing in the front row of the upper circle and legging it out
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 17:51:29 GMT
3 hrs 45 mins now!
Modern production, currently 11 'stagehands' hovering tidying up to ominous noise. A wall at back has 'KING LEAR MOVABLE WALL' on it. 10 blue plastic chairs at front. I'd take a photo but there's an incredibly hot usher in the Baylis circle who I don't wana f*** off - he already said he cud kiss me when I gave him change
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 17:53:39 GMT
The stage comes out passed the proscenium arch by bout 5 metres
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Post by couldileaveyou on Oct 25, 2016 17:58:03 GMT
I'm here right now, sixth row centre of the stalls for 30£. Sitting behind Imelda Staunton and husband. I'm gonna die.
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Post by lynette on Oct 25, 2016 19:27:19 GMT
Turn your phone off! Are you wearing your badge? If not, why not? Enjoy Post immediately it finishes please.
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Post by peggs on Oct 25, 2016 19:51:38 GMT
It's got longer?! There tomorrow, looks like I better plan a later train then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 20:07:23 GMT
130 mins til interval!
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Post by couldileaveyou on Oct 25, 2016 20:16:19 GMT
Yup, first act ends at 3.6, right before (spoiler?!) Gloucester's blinding.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 20:20:12 GMT
I'm here right now, sixth row centre of the stalls for 30£. Sitting behind Imelda Staunton and husband. I'm gonna die. Cheers, we have spotted her from the gods! SHE GOTTA PERM!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 20:22:13 GMT
Yup, first act ends at 3.6, right before (spoiler?!) Gloucester's blinding. U in a blue shirt with glasses?
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Post by theatrelover123 on Oct 25, 2016 21:09:43 GMT
Was in the audience tonight. 7 rows back in the stalls. Appalled at how bad it was. Just awful. Left in the interval. Will be curious to hear from others if it got better. I doubt it though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 21:48:53 GMT
Why did anyone think this was going to be good? Apart from Elizabeth R, Eric and Ernie and The Muppets, can anyone remember anything else about Glenda Jackson's acting career? (Just remembered Women In Love but only because of the wrestling scene. Not that Glenda was in that bit...)
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Post by theatrelover123 on Oct 25, 2016 21:51:07 GMT
Glenda was actually pretty good, if not a little one note. It's everybody around her that is terrible and mainly miscast. But nothing is as bad as the direction, staging and execution.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Oct 25, 2016 21:52:22 GMT
It's over now
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