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Post by zsazsa on Apr 27, 2017 12:26:22 GMT
So, as well as being a theatre addict, I am also a bit of a book worm. I like to alternate between fiction and non-fiction and particularly love a theatrical biographies and books about the making of certain shows. My problem is that I buy more book that I usually have time to read.
I thought I would start a theatreboard book group thread in which we can reveal or review our recent reads and share some recommendations for good reads, particularly if they are theatrical.
I have just finished 'New York' by Edward Rutherfurd. This novels chronicles the history of the city through they eyes of a fictitious family dynasty and the people connected to them. Starting with New York's origins as New Amsterdam all the way through to 9/11.
I wanted to learn a bit more about the city before going back in July and this was really interesting way of doing that. There were a number of sections that kept me quite gripped. I see the same author has written a similar book about London which I have added to my long "to read" list.
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 27, 2017 12:41:38 GMT
zsazsa I love the idea of this thread. Thank you for starting it. I've been looking at New York in bookshops for a while and you may have nudged me towards it. I'm currently reading He Said She Said by Erin Kelly which I am finding gripping. She's been too long doing Broadchurch and I've missed her books. I'm half way through and still waiting for her trademark killer twist.... I read a lot of crime and any recommendations would be gratefully received as I've read everything by Mark Billingham (the king) Jane Casey and Sarah Hilary (the queens) to name but 3. I'm also going to be a named character in a best-selling author's next book (not telling!) from an auction I won on Ebay for Clic Sargent last year.
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Post by viserys on Apr 27, 2017 12:48:30 GMT
I think we had a thread about theatrical books a while ago.
I read "London" many years ago and did enjoy it. Learnt many interesting tidbits about the city. Rutherfurd also wrote one about Paris which I may read before I go there again.
I am a huge history geek so I mostly read historical fiction. Not the sappy bodice-ripping nonsense, but books that teach me a bit about a country's history. Among my favorites are the Ibis Trilogy by Amitav Ghosh, that covers the whole Indian ocean from Mauritius via India to Hong Kong, "The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet" by David Mitchell about the Dutch settlement in Nagasaki and M.M.Kaye's "The Far Pavilions" (even if the musical didn't go down well, the book is fabulous). I often try to match my holiday reading to my destination. One of the best things I've read was Vicki Baum's "Love and Death in Bali", which I read while I was on the island. Made visiting the Klungklung Palace all the more intense after just reading about how the Dutch ran riot there to conquer the southern half of Bali as part of their colonial empire.
Right now I'm reading Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle - I wish someone had warned me what a huge doorstopper the entire trilogy is (which I don't notice on my Kindle, haha). It's an amazing work though, covering so much of European history in late 17th century from the Sun King's court at Versailles to the Glorious Revolution in Britain by way of Natural Philosophers like Newton and Leibniz with excursions as far as India and Japan. It's all written in rather light-weight style, often making me laugh out loud at the dry humour. Some of the "mathematickal" and financial stuff go right over my head though and I find myself skipping bits when he's just too long-winded.
Nothing to do with theatre, I'm afraid (although Nell Gwynn makes a brief appearance). I do have "Skating the Starlight Express" by Michal Fraley on my reading list for my upcoming vacation though. If I ever finish the Baroque Cycle.
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Post by mallardo on Apr 27, 2017 14:27:19 GMT
Viserys, if you like historical fiction (and musicals) try Gore Vidal's brilliant novel, Burr - the other side of the Alexander Hamilton saga.
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Post by viserys on Apr 27, 2017 15:14:39 GMT
I shall take a look - would be a good read before I see Hamilton again in December (in London). I read the Chernow doorstopper before seeing it in New York. Please tell me this novel isn't quite as long
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Post by kathryn on Apr 27, 2017 15:16:52 GMT
I'm a geek, so tend to read sci-fi and fantasy and a bit of so-called 'urban fantasy', but I like a bit of historical fiction/fantasy too. I tend to get hooked on a particular author at a time. Long-time favourites are Terry Pratchett, Lois McMaster Bujold, Naomi Novik, Patrick O'Brien, Bernard Cornwell (though he does also annoy me at times). I'm a sucker for an ongoing series so managed to stick with Robert Jordan right to the end and have made it through George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire (aka Game of Thrones) books so far - though he is also stretching my patience.
At the moment I am finishing up a re-read Patricia Briggs' werewolf series.
Not very high-brow, I'm afraid, but I did my degree in English Lit, so feel I've served by time with the classics.
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Post by Flim Flam on Apr 27, 2017 15:39:57 GMT
Just got interested in some of your excellent recommendations for books and thought I would check online with my local library to see if they had any of them.
Only to discover that my nearest public library ( a large library, much used by local people) will be totally shut from now until mid September, so that they can permanently close whole sections of the library, remove the cafe and make it more self-service. All to save money due to cutbacks. That wouldn't be such a joke if they had not (and not many years ago either) closed it totally for 15 months in order to modernise it (change the room functions, remove lots of books and add more dvds) and add a cafe. Honestly, if they remove any more books they might as well not bother. I understand cutbacks are necessary, but honestly the peanuts they will save by cutting back on a couple of staff members will take years to be felt, balanced against all the costs of these endless building works.
Oh well, off to Amazon.
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Post by palace on Apr 27, 2017 15:57:12 GMT
zsazsa I love the idea of this thread. Thank you for starting it. I've been looking at New York in bookshops for a while and you may have nudged me towards it. I'm currently reading He Said She Said by Erin Kelly which I am finding gripping. She's been too long doing Broadchurch and I've missed her books. I'm half way through and still waiting for her trademark killer twist.... I read a lot of crime and any recommendations would be gratefully received as I've read everything by Mark Billingham (the king) Jane Casey and Sarah Hilary (the queens) to name but 3. I'm also going to be a named character in a best-selling author's next book (not telling!) from an auction I won on Ebay for Clic Sargent last year. You could try Sabine Durrant and Nicci French. Nicci French's Frieda Klein books are good as are What to Do When Someone Dies and Until it's Over.
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Post by mallardo on Apr 27, 2017 17:07:01 GMT
I shall take a look - would be a good read before I see Hamilton again in December (in London). I read the Chernow doorstopper before seeing it in New York. Please tell me this novel isn't quite as long
448 pages according to Amazon - so fairly hefty. But Vidal is such a wonderful story teller, such an easy read, the pages fly by. Full of juicy stuff.
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Post by viserys on Apr 27, 2017 17:32:08 GMT
I'm a geek, so tend to read sci-fi and fantasy and a bit of so-called 'urban fantasy', but I like a bit of historical fiction/fantasy too. I tend to get hooked on a particular author at a time. Long-time favourites are Terry Pratchett, Lois McMaster Bujold, Naomi Novik, Patrick O'Brien, Bernard Cornwell (though he does also annoy me at times). I'm a sucker for an ongoing series so managed to stick with Robert Jordan right to the end and have made it through George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire (aka Game of Thrones) books so far - though he is also stretching my patience. OMG, I love me some Pratchett. Not so keen on Bernard Cornwell, I liked the Sharpe TV adaptation, but the books annoyed me somehow - the eternally cool hero who has a damsel in distress swooning at his feet in every book. I'm presently wondering if I should give The Last Kingdom books a go. The story seems interesting enough but I can't cope with the pretty boy-guyliner bloke they cast as Uthred in the TV version. As for GRRM, I love the TV version Game of Thrones as you can probably tell from my screen name here, but the books are incredibly verbose and long-winded. Found myself skipping through parts of the last book. I still appreciate him for writing interesting three-dimensional female characters though and will read the last books (if they ever come out), especially now that the TV version has veered wildly off on its own trajectory. I've heard good stuff of McMaster Bujold, is there a book you'd recommend "for beginners" ? 448 pages according to Amazon - so fairly hefty. But Vidal is such a wonderful story teller, such an easy read, the pages fly by. Full of juicy stuff. Okay - I've put it on my Amazon wish list (aka "books I need to remember to buy at some point") and will read it later in the year before I se the show. Thanks!
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Post by Latecomer on Apr 27, 2017 17:45:49 GMT
Just got interested in some of your excellent recommendations for books and thought I would check online with my local library to see if they had any of them. Only to discover that my nearest public library ( a large library, much used by local people) will be totally shut from now until mid September, so that they can permanently close whole sections of the library, remove the cafe and make it more self-service. All to save money due to cutbacks. That wouldn't be such a joke if they had not (and not many years ago either) closed it totally for 15 months in order to modernise it (change the room functions, remove lots of books and add more dvds) and add a cafe. Honestly, if they remove any more books they might as well not bother. I understand cutbacks are necessary, but honestly the peanuts they will save by cutting back on a couple of staff members will take years to be felt, balanced against all the costs of these endless building works. Oh well, off to Amazon. Even though the cost of borrowing is zero the Tories would have you believe austerity and therefore cut backs like this are necessary. They are not. Looking round London.... there are flash cars and people spending vast amounts of money on luxury goods...the bankers caused the problems, not the ordinary people. Austerity is a political choice (and one that did not work after the Wall Street Crash!) Do not believe the propaganda. It is not a choice between for example social care and libraries...we are a rich country (the 6th richest in the world!) we should be able to have a system where we adequately fund both! We have put up with these lies for long enough. Ok, rant over......I am sorry your library is closed. Woops...you got me started a bit there....it may have been that buffoon Boris on TV telling us it is better to make a decisive decision (even if that means you are a dictator and not bothering to consult parliament) rather than take the time to make a reasoned decision!
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Post by Michael on Apr 27, 2017 17:47:33 GMT
I'm about to start reading the new Bernie Gunther thriller Prussian Blue by Philip Kerr, one of my favourite series, among the Harry Bosch series from Michael Connelly, the David Baldacci thrillers and the Jack Reacher books from Lee Child. Other favourite authors are Ian Rankin, Peter James, Nelson DeMille, Tess Gerritsen and Glenn Meade. Oh, and I'm really looking forward to reading the new Ken Follett novel that'll be released this September.
Currently, there are eight books in my shelf waiting to be read, and quite a few are pre-ordered on Amazon.
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Post by Latecomer on Apr 27, 2017 17:49:24 GMT
Latest book I read at local reading group was Tell the Wolves I'm Home by Carol Rifka Brunt. Made me cry! We have over 200 reading groups in our local authority and a scheme where you can borrow a set of 12 books for free! We have 100s of titles and librarians pick you a book off a "wish list" you have submitted and send the box of books to your local library. All free!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 18:12:26 GMT
Currently reading Junky by William S Burroughs and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas by Hunter S Thompson.
I wonder if the S's stand for Sodomy?
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Post by peggs on Apr 27, 2017 20:07:35 GMT
Oh good thread, I usually just wander round the library pulling off books at random, it's great when you find an author you like who's written a fair few. Unsurprisingly then my reading is pretty varied, I like to mix a bit of fact (biographies, history) in so that I feel that my brain has to do some work but equally do find as i get older that I rather like something non challenging as well. I love Terry Pratchett and probably re-read them all each year. Will have to look up some of these recommendations.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 27, 2017 21:00:07 GMT
viserys Yes, the amount of rape and sexual assault in Bernard Cornwell is really annoying. People tend to plead 'historical accuracy' when you complain about it but when an author features in it in almost every book I think it's less historical accuracy and more lazy plot device. The Last Kingdom books I have stuck with purely because I have an interest in the era (did a lot of Anglo-Saxon at uni) and think it's a fascinating and little-known story. Annoyingly Cornwall doesn't capture the difference in attitudes to women pre-Norman conquest - there's evidence that aristocratic women had more power and authority than he allows them, but he seems to think that women in ye olden days always had the same downtrodden and abused status even when they end up as the acknowledged ruler of a kingdom, There's considerably less guy-liner in the books than the TV show and a lot more swearing and violence. Bujold is great! She writes both fantasy and sci-fi, with her sci-fi series being the better-known. I started with the fantasy - I picked up Curse of Chalion in the library to read on the bus and was so absorbed in it I missed my stop. That's the first of her 'Five Gods' fantasy series. The sci-fi series - the Vorkosigan saga - actually has multiple potential starting points and is written to be new-reader friendly at any point - each novel is a standalone story, though there are mini-sequences that link up. She basically jumped around in her characters' timelines as she wrote, so publication order isn't necessarily chronological order. She started out writing about two characters from different planets meeting in the middle of a conflict and then jumped to writing about their son - most of the books are from his POV but the most recent one circled back around to his mother. I started with Cordelia's Honor (which is 2 books combined - Barrayar and Shards of Honor) which is the parents' story - but many people start with The Warrior's Apprentice - about their son, Miles. Bujold was inspired by the Hornblower series and follows Miles throughout his career - doing some genre-mixing as he encounters different situations. So there are some books that are space opera and some that are more detective stories, and one or two romantic comedies in there too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 21:00:20 GMT
Like the idea of an online book group on here, but how easy is it to co-ordinate choosing a single book to read and discuss? Someone just needs to choose one. Il do it - National Service by Richard Eyre
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Post by zsazsa on Apr 27, 2017 21:44:06 GMT
Like the idea of an online book group on here, but how easy is it to co-ordinate choosing a single book to read and discuss? Didn't mean that we all read the same book. Just an opportunity to share our thoughts on our current/latest reads.
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Post by peggs on Apr 27, 2017 22:11:47 GMT
Like the idea of an online book group on here, but how easy is it to co-ordinate choosing a single book to read and discuss? Didn't mean that we all read the same book. Just an opportunity to share our thoughts on our current/latest reads. But we could do both?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2017 22:47:04 GMT
'Pretty boy guyliner bloke' is OK by me as Uhtred, though all those 'oops I've forgotten to put my shirt on again' scenes are perhaps starting to stretch credibility. ;-)
I got the first of the Last Kingdom books as an offer on my Kindle. Enjoyed it fine (had already seen the TV series by then) but after a while it did start to feel a bit, 'they have this battle and then something personal happens and then they have yet another battle'.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 5:02:29 GMT
Bujold is great! [...] The sci-fi series - the Vorkosigan saga [...] I love that series. After reading everything at least twice I find I'm most taken with the Cetagandans, because I like stories about societies with morals and standards that are nothing like ours. I wish Bujold would write more about the Cetagandans but she seems to want to preserve an element of mystery about them.
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Post by kathryn on Apr 28, 2017 8:00:48 GMT
Bujold is great! [...] The sci-fi series - the Vorkosigan saga [...] I love that series. After reading everything at least twice I find I'm most taken with the Cetagandans, because I like stories about societies with morals and standards that are nothing like ours. I wish Bujold would write more about the Cetagandans but she seems to want to preserve an element of mystery about them. I believe she makes it all up as she goes along, so she probably doesn't want to box herself in by revealing too much until she needs them. Though she does say, about the various inconsistencies that have cropped up over the series, 'the author reserves the right to have A Better Idea'. She seems fascinated by demographics and reproduction/children, though - I could see her writing more about Cetaganda as a society where the older generation are very long-lived, power and money resides with them, and the young feel the system isn't offering much for them at the moment and they will have to wait an awfully long time for their elders to retire. But that sounds like A Serious Novel and she is semi-retired now and mainly writing lighter stuff.
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Post by Tibidabo on Apr 28, 2017 8:49:43 GMT
Oh, and I'm really looking forward to reading the new Ken Follett novel that'll be released this September. Thank you for this Michael - I had no idea Ken Follett was re-visiting the Kingsbridge series which has to be one of my favourite of all time. I didn't like his Century trilogy at all, so had dropped out of the Follett loop. I'm presuming I'll have to wait for the paperback or invest in a crane in order to lift the hardback off the shelf! Didn't mean that we all read the same book. Just an opportunity to share our thoughts on our current/latest reads. That was how I understood it.
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Post by Michael on Apr 28, 2017 8:56:06 GMT
Thank you for this Michael - I had no idea Ken Follett was re-visiting the Kingsbridge series which has to be one of my favourite of all time. I didn't like his Century trilogy at all, so had dropped out of the Follett loop. I'm presuming I'll have to wait for the paperback or invest in a crane in order to lift the hardback off the shelf! I really liked his Century trilogy. Biggest problem with the third novel of the Knightsbridge series will be that I don't remember much about the first two books anymore, and I must admit that I'm not too keen on re-reading 2x1200 pages. But I guess I'm not the only one, so hopefully it won't require too much background knowledge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:08:44 GMT
A world without books is one that I don't want to contemplate. A lot of people say 'I don't read', to which I can only ask why?
Am really grateful for various threads on boards over the years including one on here which have pointed me to books I didn't know about. Have just finished Donna Mckechnie 'Time Steps' following a recommendation somewhere and now I pass that on, it really is verry good. Just started Anthony Rapp's memoir. Big contrast to Ms Mckechnie, but we'll see how it pans out. Yes I am slightly obsessed with theatre books and biographies/autobiographies as well as crime fiction, somebody mentioned the marvellous Mark Billingham earlier in the thread, just read one of his, now ona Tess Gerritsen. Nobody's mentioned the fabulous Karin Slaughter yet have they?
Something else from a short time ago is Church of Marvels by Leslie Parry, excellent debut and also quite surprising in parts. Recently have found that a lot of popular or literary fiction is predictable which strangely I never get with crime fiction despie all the standard tropes they use.
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