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Post by theatrelover123 on Oct 31, 2017 12:56:48 GMT
The serving staff are so f***ing stupid They are working in a cafe Wearing white bibs They are hardly at the Dorchester A completely unneccessary and unsavoury comment about people who are employed to do a job and are doing it well. Casting aspersions on them and their work is just plain nasty. These types of comments should not go unchecked and there should be some acknowledgement by Theatreboard monitors that this should not be tolerated and sours what is otherwise a well meaning and passionate (for the right reasons) forum about theatre. Disappointing ;( |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 13:45:30 GMT
The serving staff are so f***ing stupid They are working in a cafe Wearing white bibs They are hardly at the Dorchester A completely unneccessary and unsavoury comment about people who are employed to do a job and are doing it well. Casting aspersions on them and their work is just plain nasty. These types of comments should not go unchecked and there should be some acknowledgement by Theatreboard monitors that this should not be tolerated and sours what is otherwise a well meaning and passionate (for the right reasons) forum about theatre. Disappointing ;( Well try going there at lunchtime As I have just been And see the cack handed treatment I experienced When the whole foyer was empty yet they ignored me for a good while enough that I felt uncomfortable And it took then the best part of 10 mins To assemble a sandwich Which was then all in disarray in the paper bag with egg and mayonnaise mostly on the bag rather than on the bread From what I could see They were too busy chatting to theatre staff and serving them There is always a context Thanks very much This incident was at midday- well before any lunch “rush” If a theatre is more bothered about being a cafe than a theatre And it’s below my standards I will comment as I see fit Given the prices they charge for the products This only adds to my case In fact St John at the heart of the original restaurant has a Michelin star God knows why And part of this award is supposed to relate to service which is why I drew a tongue in cheek parallel to The Dorchester Having bastardised offshoots like this attempt at The Bridge where it’s basically a rip off glorified cafe Makes the shortcomings quite transparent Many people are used to low standards and service in this country And tolerate it If the venue are happy to take £10 for a sandwich and a donut They need to be able to take feedback and criticism Don’t be so subservient to crap service |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 13:54:20 GMT
The serving staff are so f***ing stupid They are working in a cafe Wearing white bibs They are hardly at the Dorchester A completely unneccessary and unsavoury comment about people who are employed to do a job and are doing it well. Casting aspersions on them and their work is just plain nasty. These types of comments should not go unchecked and there should be some acknowledgement by Theatreboard monitors that this should not be tolerated and sours what is otherwise a well meaning and passionate (for the right reasons) forum about theatre. Disappointing ;( “Doing it well” See above |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:03:54 GMT
Oh how nice, yet another comment where Parsley thinks he's 'above' people.
It's one thing to comment 'I tried this new venue and got poor service' (which again you could have done more politely, as ever) but calling the people who work there stupid is uncalled for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:06:18 GMT
Oh how nice, yet another comment where Parsley thinks he's 'above' people. It's one thing to comment 'I tried this new venue and got poor service' (which again you could have done more politely, as ever) but calling the people who work there stupid is uncalled for. To reiterate £10 sandwich and donut I shouldn’t have to be commenting on poor service in the first place My impression is the staff are too “proud” being seen working there And that is to the detriment of their work Perhaps I imagined it As I was the one who went there I am sure others who weren’t present know much better what I am thinking and what I experienced A note in general- you can’t control how other people express their feelings and reactions It’s not a communist state |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:10:15 GMT
Oh how nice, yet another comment where Parsley thinks he's 'above' people. It's one thing to comment 'I tried this new venue and got poor service' (which again you could have done more politely, as ever) but calling the people who work there stupid is uncalled for. To reiterate £10 sandwich and donut I shouldn’t have to be commenting on poor service Firstly, that's hardly above the norm in places like that in Central London. Secondly that's a complaint about the cost v quality of the product, which is a valid point but not the fault of the staff. Making fun of the uniform isn't the staff's fault. Calling them stupid just because to you they're 'lower' in your opinion due to the job they do is not on. And finally they've not long opened, there may be 'teething problems' and you could have politely approached a manager and given them feedback. Finally, as you so often like to remind us all you can well afford that lunch wheras the likes of those you enjoy mocking cannot. So eat your sandwich quietly in the corner, there's a good lion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:13:55 GMT
To reiterate £10 sandwich and donut I shouldn’t have to be commenting on poor service Firstly, that's hardly above the norm in places like that in Central London. Secondly that's a complaint about the cost v quality of the product, which is a valid point but not the fault of the staff. Making fun of the uniform isn't the staff's fault. Calling them stupid just because to you they're 'lower' in your opinion due to the job they do is not on. And finally they've not long opened, there may be 'teething problems' and you could have politely approached a manager and given them feedback. Finally, as you so often like to remind us all you can well afford that lunch wheras the likes of those you enjoy mocking cannot. So eat your sandwich quietly in the corner, there's a good lion. The issue is Not they job they are doing It’s the poor way in which they do it This applies to any job Regardless of role or pay or anything else What is “below” Is the action of being poor at the job Not the job itself And the uniform is stupid It aims at something utterly ridiculous At which they fail |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 14:25:18 GMT
None of which is what you *led* with, Parsley. If you provide context rather than mocking us for being unable to work it out and lead with facts instead of personal insults then people are much more likely to take your opinions seriously rather than just assuming you're a horrible little troll.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 31, 2017 16:04:32 GMT
Suggestion: if the rest of us don’t descend to name calling we can continue to claim the moral high ground over those who do.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 17:22:51 GMT
Suggestion: if the rest of us don’t descend to name calling we can continue to claim the moral high ground over those who do. Suggestion: we don't let certain members of the board be continually rude and disrespectful just because for some reason they amuse the mods. I find Parsley's continual snobby tone and clear dislike of terrible 'working class' people frankly disgusting. He sets out to wind people up, edits posts before people can respond to make them look worse. He speaks to the rest of us like we're dirt. And yet somehow he seems infallible when it comes to telling off from moderators. So I'm with @baemax on this one, if he stops acting like a nasty little troll we'll stop responding to him like one. |
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Post by theatrelover123 on Oct 31, 2017 18:23:08 GMT
All of the above is quite true. I would also argue (and maybe I am wrong) that the behaviour exhibited for quite some time goes against two of the clearly stated Forum Rules
Be respectful of your fellow members – stay courteous; don’t be insulting or offensive.
I don't necessarily care if the comments are not insulting or offensive TO or ABOUT fellow members. People are finding them insulting or offensive about whatever or whoever is being insulted or offended - and that's enough!
If you break a rule or behave in a way that damages the open and friendly aims of TheatreBoard.co.uk then you will either be warned or banned. A ban of your user account may either be temporary or permanent
The open and friendly aims of the board are quite clearly being contravened if several people feel the same way about it. REPEATEDLY!
I enjoy lots of what Parsley has to say and respect their opinion. There is however also a lot that offends me and others.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 18:53:27 GMT
Likewise, under all the bitching and sniping there are some genuinely interesting opinions shared. However when these are frequently buried in direct insults to fellow board users, or condescending comments it's hard to take them seriously.
That they also frequently make personal and insulting remarks towards people working in the theatre industry is also frustrating when others of us are brought up on that in other threads.
So while some of us are having to state "In my opinion" every time we discuss a certain AD on another thread, despite the conversation drawing on well-reported information. Some posters frequently make directly insulting comments to industry figures or staff. And making claims about anonymous theatre front of house staff is just as awful and potentially damaging.
And yes, eagle eyed readers will spot my 'The Good Wife' joke in there.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 31, 2017 19:03:50 GMT
That they also frequently make personal and insulting remarks towards people working in the theatre industry is also frustrating when others of us are brought up on that in other threads. Posts of that nature have been and will be removed, and action will be taken with the member concerned as appropriate. We don’t discuss those actions publicly. If there are posts like this which remain, it’s likely because no one has reported them. We rely on people to do that because it’s very difficult for a small group of volunteers to mionitor every post in every thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 19:09:26 GMT
That they also frequently make personal and insulting remarks towards people working in the theatre industry is also frustrating when others of us are brought up on that in other threads. Posts of that nature have been and will be removed, and action will be taken with the member concerned as appropriate. We don’t discuss those actions publicly. If there are posts like this which remain, it’s likely because no one has reported them. We rely on people to do that because it’s very difficult for a small group of volunteers to mionitor every post in every thread. I know and appreciate you are a group of volunteers, and we all very much appreciate the time and effort put into this forum. Equally though if we reported every offensive thing some members say we'd never say anything else. More than one person has noticed the favouritism shown to this person, others have been banned for far, far less. And I myself have had 'tellings off' for far less as well. When someone is so consistently outright nasty not just to individuals, but in their general 'Persona' (because I believe they do it on purpose) it makes a distinctly unpleasant atmosphere on what is otherwise a generally nice place to be. Once again I appreciate the hard work of moderators. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 31, 2017 19:10:29 GMT
So while some of us are having to state "In my opinion" every time we discuss a certain AD on another thread, despite the conversation drawing on well-reported information. That’s not to protect the AD concerned, it’s to protect this forum from being taken off air by Proboards who would absolutely do that if there was a suspicion of illegality. This website is read by people in the industry. Ive asked people to choose their words carefully. As more information comes out things get relaxed which is evident on those thread. Sorry if you don’t agree with that approach but it has to be that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 19:12:22 GMT
So while some of us are having to state "In my opinion" every time we discuss a certain AD on another thread, despite the conversation drawing on well-reported information. That’s not to protect the AD concerned, it’s to protect this forum from being taken off air by Proboards who would absolutely do that if there was a suspicion of illegality. This website is read by people in the industry. Ive asked people to choose their words carefully. As more information comes out things get relaxed which is evident on those thread. Sorry if you don’t agree with that approach but it has to be that way. I do know that, contrary to what Parsley might think I'm not that stupid. I was being mildly sarcastic given that I'm sure if Parsley said it then it would be deemed 'harmless banter' but the rest of us put one toe over a line and we're reprimanded. Love the age-old 'Sorry you feel that way' though. |
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Post by Peach on Oct 31, 2017 19:27:13 GMT
I've composed and then deleted numerous posts in this thread today in case I run foul of my employer's social media policy.
Parsley hates all of the venues I work at. I'm getting a complex.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 19:32:01 GMT
See moderators, exactly the kind of thing Peach above talks about is the issue. It may look like harmless fun, but as much as you're scared of running foul of industry big-wigs who read the forum, a lot of other theatre professionals who work Front of House of Box Office read it and have to hear Parsley's nasty comments about themselves and colleagues. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 21:00:57 GMT
Suggestion: if the rest of us don’t descend to name calling we can continue to claim the moral high ground over those who do. I’m not always the brightest button in the box so I’m just seeking clarification on the definition of “name calling”... Over in the Strictly Spoilers 2107 thread you have called Michaela Strachan a “bitch” and Chris Packham a “tosser”. I found this a little alarming to say the least but only two of us commented on your use of (what I would call) “names”. By doing this did you “descend to name calling” or are you continuing to claim the moral high ground over the rest of us?  |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 31, 2017 22:50:45 GMT
Suggestion: if the rest of us don’t descend to name calling we can continue to claim the moral high ground over those who do. I’m not always the brightest button in the box so I’m just seeking clarification on the definition of “name calling”... Over in the Strictly Spoilers 2107 thread you have called Michaela Strachan a “bitch” and Chris Packham a “tosser”. I found this a little alarming to say the least but only two of us commented on your use of (what I would call) “names”. By doing this did you “descend to name calling” or are you continuing to claim the moral high ground over the rest of us? Yep, you got me bang to rights on that! |
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Post by sf on Oct 31, 2017 22:51:36 GMT
The issue is Not they job they are doing It’s the poor way in which they do it I was there for the matinee on Saturday, from a little over an hour before the performance began. Without exception, the level of service I witnessed/received from the staff was professional, courteous, and welcoming, and the prices did not seem out of line with what I'd expect to pay elsewhere. And even if I had seen anything worth criticising - which I didn't - I'd have been inclined to cut them a little slack given that they've only been open for two weeks. In the event, there was no need: I thought they'd got the hospitality side of the operation more or less exactly right. |
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Post by alicechallice on Oct 31, 2017 23:01:35 GMT
I’m not always the brightest button in the box so I’m just seeking clarification on the definition of “name calling”... Over in the Strictly Spoilers 2107 thread you have called Michaela Strachan a “bitch” and Chris Packham a “tosser”. I found this a little alarming to say the least but only two of us commented on your use of (what I would call) “names”. By doing this did you “descend to name calling” or are you continuing to claim the moral high ground over the rest of us? Yep, you got me bang to rights on that! And...? Are you going to elaborate on any reflection you may have on our concern over this? Or are moderators just allowed to say things like that? |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Oct 31, 2017 23:42:46 GMT
And, since you ask, things I consider to be unacceptable include:
Name calling or being offensive to other members of this forum.
Making derogatory comments about anyone’s physicality.
Unsubstantiated remarks about people such as “he’s a criminal/abuser/paedophile/etc”
Casual “someone told me he’s into youngsters so it must be true” comments.
Things I think are acceptable include:
Negative comments about a person’s talent, or lack of talent.
Negative comments about people’s public behaviour.
My evil remarks about Michaela Strachan and Chris Packham fall into the last category but having said that, I’m not proud because bitch isn’t a nice thing to call anyone. Tosser? I think I’m standing by it but will sleep on it as it’s been a long day.
And just to add, all moderation decisions are taken as a team. No-one acts completely independently.
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Post by alicechallice on Nov 1, 2017 0:32:22 GMT
As long as he's a tosser because he's a tosser and not because he's autistic. Thanks Burly.
Somebody else used the "B" word but I'll let her off because I don't want it getting back to Andrew Garfield how much of a right-on PC square I can be!
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Post by vdcni on Nov 1, 2017 5:34:53 GMT
So derogatory comments about someone's physicality aren't acceptable though Parsley's about Sienna Miller are still in the Cat On The Hot Tin Roof thread despite being complained about.
So much for the we deal with his comments when they are complained about line.
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