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Post by Jon on Mar 14, 2017 15:30:24 GMT
Hard to believe Mamma Mia! was a slow seller, what was the original performance times? Monday to Saturday Evenings, midweek and Saturday 2.30pm matinees. They went over to a Friday 5.30pm show and that brought in the "hen party" crowd. It's interesting they switched to a Thursday matinee when they moved to the Novello
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 19:53:49 GMT
I get really annoyed at the snobbery of people who don't like shows such as WWRY. Fair enough if you don't like it, that's your prerogative, but to say things like it's a "damning indictment of how far society has fallen" is a bit offensive to those who happen to have a different opinion to you about something as utterly harmless as a cheesy musical. Likes and dislikes are always subjective and nothing gives you the right to be judgemental about other people just because you prefer theatre you consider to be more refined or intellectually challenging. People like theatre for different reasons and some people would do well to remember and respect that. When did I mention anyone who's a fan of WWRY, or say that they weren't allowed to enjoy it, or be judgmental of them in any way? For someone who's so sensitive about this, you don't seem to see a problem with making huge assumptions about me. I slightly paraphrased the offensive part of your post, but in full: "WWRY is unmitigated garbage on every level and is a sad indictment of how far we've fallen as a society." You may not have meant the implication that people who like WWRY are somehow examples of how terrible you seem to think society is, or at least their taste in theatre is, but it's there. You're entitled to dislike the show of course, but there was absolutely no need to make it a wider comment about people in general and I hope you can see how it can be read in a certain way that doesn't reflect well. It's how I read the words you wrote - I'm just telling you what I took from your words, I can't get inside your head to know what you meant so I can only go by what I see on the thread. I was also making a more general comment about some people's attitude to jukebox musicals in general, not specifically directed at you, so it's interesting that you jumped straight on the defensive, which to me suggests you (at least now if not before) realise your words might be read in a way that might cause a degree of offence. It doesn't matter, it's just phraseology and the extent to which care is taken over word choice, I'm simply explaining why I personally (and it's just my opinion after all) had a problem with the phrasing used. The comment about people in general in relation to jukebox musical snobbery stands though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 22:03:14 GMT
Mamma Mia was also set to be a slightly different show, a bit more serious. Then quite late in the process they realised playing it straight didnt quite work and tongue in cheek was the way forward.
Jukebox shows date back to 20s and 30s and probably earlier. But Mamma Mia definately started the modern trend and showed pop groups/artists there could be another way to make money out of your back catalogue. For all the criticism these shows get, very few actually become hits. There is an art to getting them right
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 22:58:25 GMT
I think there's always been a form of a "jukebox musical" one way or another that preceded the actual term. Back in the day, it was called a musical revue. I really have no idea with a jukebox musical, provided it's not a bio-jukebox musical a la Beautiful, Buddy, etc. I could be intrigued with a quirky musical that cheekily shoehorns obscure numbers and barely have them make sense. Revues, arising in the early part of the last century usually had original scores so were very different. In fact they often had a house composer, Irving Berlin for the Music Box revues, Gershwin for the George White's Scandals etc. The songs often became hits only because they were written for these shows. It's really only in the seventies when the revue started to become more of a compilation of existing songs.
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Post by maggiem on Mar 16, 2017 9:33:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 9:43:47 GMT
I saw it at the Watermill with Gary Wilmott a while back. Great little show, and brilliantly done.
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