|
Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 19:02:19 GMT
I'm curious as to why an audience full of kids might require the use of sniffer dogs. Children don't seem particularly more likely to use drugs or explosives than the (more numerous) adult population. Last time I saw the Lion King there were very few kids there. I guess the people who saw the cartoon are now grown ups. The film came out in 1994 so yup most of us who were kid-age then are now old-as-balls. Families seem to still buy tickets for the matinees and school holidays but it's generally popular with the adult-casual theatre crowd too. Who may or may not need drugs to get through it (I would)
|
|
3,927 posts
|
Post by Dawnstar on Oct 19, 2017 20:01:46 GMT
On that note I'm very much in favour of 'dog performances' where audiences can take their pooches...we have theatre for families with their sproglets why can't we have some for dog-children? I feel this would be an enjoyable experience for all. As long as they're clearly signposted so those of us who are made nervous by dogs can avoid those performances. I have no problem with guide dogs being at the theatre, they're usually better behaved than many humans, but I don't like the thought of sniffer dogs nosing around me. I'm not afraid of getting bitten, I'm afraid of being slobbered on!
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 7:41:49 GMT
On that note I'm very much in favour of 'dog performances' where audiences can take their pooches...we have theatre for families with their sproglets why can't we have some for dog-children? I feel this would be an enjoyable experience for all. As long as they're clearly signposted so those of us who are made nervous by dogs can avoid those performances. I have no problem with guide dogs being at the theatre, they're usually better behaved than many humans, but I don't like the thought of sniffer dogs nosing around me. I'm not afraid of getting bitten, I'm afraid of being slobbered on! That there...was a thing called a JOKE. Obviously dog performances aren't actually going to be a thing. I'm well aware too not everyone likes dogs. I don't like children though and people insist of taking them out in public. Don't worry I'm pretty sure the dogs won't be anti-Brexit or have terrible left wing political leanings so you won't have to complain about their twitter accounts.
|
|
816 posts
|
Post by stefy69 on Oct 20, 2017 8:16:59 GMT
As long as they're clearly signposted so those of us who are made nervous by dogs can avoid those performances. I have no problem with guide dogs being at the theatre, they're usually better behaved than many humans, but I don't like the thought of sniffer dogs nosing around me. I'm not afraid of getting bitten, I'm afraid of being slobbered on! That there...was a thing called a JOKE. Obviously dog performances aren't actually going to be a thing. I'm well aware too not everyone likes dogs. I don't like children though and people insist of taking them out in public. Don't worry I'm pretty sure the dogs won't be anti-Brexit or have terrible left wing political leanings so you won't have to complain about their twitter accounts. Lefties on this board !
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 8:22:17 GMT
That there...was a thing called a JOKE. Obviously dog performances aren't actually going to be a thing. I'm well aware too not everyone likes dogs. I don't like children though and people insist of taking them out in public. Don't worry I'm pretty sure the dogs won't be anti-Brexit or have terrible left wing political leanings so you won't have to complain about their twitter accounts. Lefties on this board ! THE HORROR! THE HORROR! Seriously though I'm always somewhat amazed as some poster's outrage that there are left-wing folks in a theatre environment....Also that we dare to express our political opinions...
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 9:00:36 GMT
there are left-wing folks in a theatre environment It's as much surprise that anyone can actually AFFORD to be left-wing in the theatre environment. That era of "by the people, for the people" is long gone. Expression, more interesting. For example with "Ink" and "Labour of Love" in adjacent theatres. Go figure. Oh, and back on topic, I finally worked out what the sniffer dogs are doing at kids performances: checking for full nappies. Obvious now I realised. Well that too. It's frankly a surprise any of us can afford to be anything anymore....principles ain't cheap and all. Ah ha. That's what they're up to. And also sniffing out snacks. Say what you will about kids, they have good snacks.
|
|
5,586 posts
|
Post by lynette on Oct 20, 2017 11:31:25 GMT
Yeah, I do get a bit fidgety when I’m with people who moan on about our terrible unfeeling society from the premium stalls.
|
|
4,962 posts
|
Post by TallPaul on Oct 20, 2017 12:28:21 GMT
The common denominator of both The Lion King and Aladdin is Disney. Perhaps there's a concern, real or imagined, that its promotion of archetypal American values makes it a target for those with fanatical anti-Western views.
|
|
2,206 posts
|
Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 20, 2017 18:13:54 GMT
Yeah, I do get a bit fidgety when I’m with people who moan on about our terrible unfeeling society from the premium stalls. Caring, socialists can't like the theatre? Rich people can't be left leaning? Socialists who can afford stalls seats should sit in the upper circle with d'James?
|
|
1,115 posts
|
Post by Stephen on Oct 22, 2017 22:55:21 GMT
We had sniffer dogs at the Lion King yesterday. Not to mention extra security at entrances!
|
|
5,586 posts
|
Post by lynette on Oct 23, 2017 13:54:05 GMT
Yeah, I do get a bit fidgety when I’m with people who moan on about our terrible unfeeling society from the premium stalls. As opposed to the apoplexy I feel when our politicians boast of "world class state schools and public health services" while taking full advantage of the private systems for both. The way to sort public services is to force, by law, our leaders / leaders-in-waiting to have to use them without any choice. Ah, but tm, at least one of our political parties says that having the choice is what is important. So you can put your money where you want to, education or health care or boats or castles, that is your money not money intended for public service so not Duck houses. So I’m afraid all this nonsense about where politicians send their kids to school only applies to people who insist everyone should attend same schools. But interestingly, back in the day Harold Wilson for one, sent his boys to UCS a fee paying school in Hampstead.
|
|
2,206 posts
|
Post by theglenbucklaird on Oct 23, 2017 18:50:44 GMT
As opposed to the apoplexy I feel when our politicians boast of "world class state schools and public health services" while taking full advantage of the private systems for both. The way to sort public services is to force, by law, our leaders / leaders-in-waiting to have to use them without any choice. Ah, but tm, at least one of our political parties says that having the choice is what is important. So you can put your money where you want to, education or health care or boats or castles, that is your money not money intended for public service so not Duck houses. So I’m afraid all this nonsense about where politicians send their kids to school only applies to people who insist everyone should attend same schools. But interestingly, back in the day Harold Wilson for one, sent his boys to UCS a fee paying school in Hampstead. Don't miss Theatremonkey's point Lynette. We really would get a world class education system if someone as rich as David Cameron had to send Tarquin to the local comprehensive. And let's face it, we all want and aspire to have a world class education system.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 19:30:33 GMT
As opposed to the apoplexy I feel when our politicians boast of "world class state schools and public health services" while taking full advantage of the private systems for both. The way to sort public services is to force, by law, our leaders / leaders-in-waiting to have to use them without any choice. You're making the argument that if everyone can't have nice things, then nobody should be able to have nice things. The trouble with that is that nobody at all would get nice things. The country would end up dumber and less healthy. There is no mechanism whereby forcing the rich into state education or healthcare would persuade the population who have to vote for such things that they should raise spending to private sector levels - Manchester Grammar (far from the most expensive reputable private school) charges £12,270 p/a. The government spends £6,300 per secondary state school student. In terms of healthcare, it would require barring seriously ill people from purchasing life-saving treatment in the name of equality. It would be a rather cruel race to the bottom.
|
|
5,586 posts
|
Post by lynette on Oct 24, 2017 17:34:00 GMT
I think David Cameron did choose state schools for his offspring while he was PM. Good on him. His children will have many advantages in life over other children. They can’t help it. So how do we even that out? I think basically we are all on the same page here ( I’m beginning to sound like WIA...) as I think politicians should have experience in the real world and I believe that can be a wide and varied world ( industry, social services, armed forces, health, teaching, the bins and postmen, hairdressers and maybe not actors! ) but the education q is fraught.
Onward.
|
|
587 posts
|
Post by Polly1 on Oct 24, 2017 20:35:54 GMT
Yes, exactly, yes.
|
|
18,811 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 22, 2017 13:25:21 GMT
Bumping this in light of the NT Prankster discussion and security etc. When I came out of The Palace in Manchester the other night I left by the side doors but decided to go back into the foyer by the front doors to get meself a magnet. Of course it was full of people leaving but I was able to push through the crowds and enter, there was no security. So despite the bag checks before the show there’s nothing to stop someone accessing the theatre at the end of the performance, in other words exactly what happened at the arena.
Allseems a bit cock-eyed and lip-servicey to me. Is it the same situation elsewhere?
|
|
1,064 posts
|
Post by bellboard27 on Dec 22, 2017 18:26:48 GMT
Bumping this in light of the NT Prankster discussion and security etc. When I came out of The Palace in Manchester the other night I left by the side doors but decided to go back into the foyer by the front doors to get meself a magnet. Of course it was full of people leaving but I was able to push through the crowds and enter, there was no security. So despite the bag checks before the show there’s nothing to stop someone accessing the theatre at the end of the performance, in other words exactly what happened at the arena. Allseems a bit cock-eyed and lip-servicey to me. Is it the same situation elsewhere? It’s counterintuitive but buying a magnet does not make one more attractive.
|
|
18,811 posts
|
Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 22, 2017 19:21:33 GMT
Bumping this in light of the NT Prankster discussion and security etc. When I came out of The Palace in Manchester the other night I left by the side doors but decided to go back into the foyer by the front doors to get meself a magnet. Of course it was full of people leaving but I was able to push through the crowds and enter, there was no security. So despite the bag checks before the show there’s nothing to stop someone accessing the theatre at the end of the performance, in other words exactly what happened at the arena. Allseems a bit cock-eyed and lip-servicey to me. Is it the same situation elsewhere? It’s counterintuitive but buying a magnet does not make one more attractive. You wouldn’t say that if you saw my collection!
|
|
Xanderl
Member
Not always very high value in terms of ticket yield or donations
|
Post by Xanderl on Dec 22, 2017 22:22:19 GMT
Had the bottom of my rucksack felt by the security guard at the Donmar this evening. I was tempted to look to the side and cough.
|
|
1,115 posts
|
Post by Stephen on Dec 22, 2017 22:25:40 GMT
Working in a West End venue at the moment I can say that security is taken very seriously. From the bag searches at the door, to more random inspections inside. Also, even the smallest issues or security queries within the building are responded to immediately by a dedicated team. It 'feels' safe. I think that's the point nowadays.
|
|
5,586 posts
|
Post by lynette on Dec 23, 2017 0:01:58 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs.
|
|
2,763 posts
|
Security
Dec 23, 2017 0:20:30 GMT
via mobile
Post by daniel on Dec 23, 2017 0:20:30 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense.
|
|
1,064 posts
|
Post by bellboard27 on Dec 23, 2017 8:43:23 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense. Once at a station the police had a dog checking everyone who had got off. I was pulled over and asked if they could plant something on me as the dog hadn’t found anything and they wanted to give it some encouragement. I was happy to oblige. Dog was very excited.
|
|
2,206 posts
|
Post by theglenbucklaird on Dec 23, 2017 9:39:35 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. A very late entry for post of the year. Very good
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 10:08:11 GMT
I don’t understand why they don’t use dogs. Dogs can detect explosive stuff and so on. They can tell the dogs to ignore the cannabis 😂 One dog per Theatre. Good for us, nice jobs for dogs. there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense. There are dogs at the Victoria Palace? *Now* I'm excited for Hamilton!
|
|
5,586 posts
|
Security
Dec 23, 2017 18:04:02 GMT
via mobile
Post by lynette on Dec 23, 2017 18:04:02 GMT
Woof woof.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 0:06:11 GMT
there are dogs currently used at the Lyceum and the Victoria Palace. I guess they're deemed the most high risk, therefore justifying the extra expense. There are dogs at the Victoria Palace? *Now* I'm excited for Hamilton! Don't let Cynthia Eviro hear about this or she'll assume it is something racist due to Hamilton having a hip-hop score and possibly a larger black audience than other shows. At some concerts depending on the artist profile, I know that Showsec bring sniffer dogs in.
|
|