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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 21:54:18 GMT
It is odd that Ruth is saying she will be ready by February. Was it planned she wasn't meant to begin until February? Because if not, it is clearly quite concerning that, even after 3/4 months of rehearsals, she still hasn't managed to pull it together? Its not like she hasn't had oppertunities to go on, especially this holiday season, so it must mean that if she is still with the show, she is just not prepared enough to do the role. ... can't wait to see that performance.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 22:58:56 GMT
no she wasn't. Well i won't go on Wednesday is she isn't on by then. Sensible man. Wished I had changed my tickets a third time to see Amber. Marisha was just ok IMO. And since when is doing 13 shows a week impressive?? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 23:39:21 GMT
no she wasn't. Well i won't go on Wednesday is she isn't on by then. Sensible man. Wished I had changed my tickets a third time to see Amber. Marisha was just ok IMO. And since when is doing 13 shows a week impressive?? I think the person who called the 13 shows impressive was possibly referring to two things. Amber has an alternate once a week, so Marisha has done more consecutive performances than the lead unless I am mistaken? And secondly, in a show when you are brought in as an alternate because the 2nd Alternate isn't prepared, she has managed to get more performances than even the 1st alternate and sustain her voice night after night. In a show that has a lead, three (kinda) alternates and an understudy, for Marisha to get this many performances so soon in her run is rather impressive. 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 0:17:00 GMT
I really don't think she is. Glee is the only major thing she's done that has had wide coverage here, and it appealed to a fairly niche audience, certainly not all of the average theatregoers who aren't musicals mega fans. Anyway, the point is that Funny Girl was advertised with Sheridan Smith above the title, all the marketing centered on her. Amber Riley's name doesn't appear on the Dreamgirls posters, it's the show that is the star, not her alone. The multi-award winning Glee has been seen by millions of people worldwide. Miss Smith has been seen mainly on ITV in a red wig doing a scouse accent. The niche audience you speak of are the very people buying tickets to see Amber in Dreamgirls. Glee was shown in the UK after the first series (or was it two?) on a satellite channel that a lot of people can't afford. The audience demographic when I saw Dreamgirls was not the illegal downloading tween Glee fanbase (who obviously are late teens/early 20s now), it was mostly older. Sheridan has been seen frequently on shows on mainstream channels, comedy series that go back years, and the BAFTAs. More than once. There is nothing in my mind that points to Amber being a bigger star than Sheridan in the UKAnd you still haven't addressed the point that Dreamgirls simply is not advertised as the Amber Riley show, whereas all the Funny Girl advertising was about Sheridan Smith and only Sheridan Smith. As has been repeatedly pointed out now, the advertising was "Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl" (just like it was "Glenn Close in Sunset Boulevard"). It is not "Amber Riley in Dreamgirls", it's just Dreamgirls. The show is the focal point, not its leading lady. |
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Post by Paul on Jan 10, 2017 1:30:52 GMT
Has anyone sat in row F of the upper circle? Looking for a cheap ticket for this but I'm not sure how annoying the rail in front will be.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 10, 2017 7:44:01 GMT
Sheridan has been seen frequently on shows on mainstream channels, comedy series that go back years, and the BAFTAs. More than once. There is nothing in my mind that points to Amber being a bigger star than Sheridan in the UKLol. I'm talking about how the show has been promoted to the masses and it HAS been heavily promoted as Amber's show. Unless we are all mistaken and that was a Karen Mav on the Graham Norton show/Royal Variety Performance?. The millions of people who saw those shows and booked tickets are not interested in names on posters. They won't even SEE a poster until they roll up at the savoy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 8:34:31 GMT
The multi-award winning Glee has been seen by millions of people worldwide. Miss Smith has been seen mainly on ITV in a red wig doing a scouse accent. The niche audience you speak of are the very people buying tickets to see Amber in Dreamgirls. Glee was shown in the UK after the first series (or was it two?) on a satellite channel that a lot of people can't afford. The audience demographic when I saw Dreamgirls was not the illegal downloading tween Glee fanbase (who obviously are late teens/early 20s now), it was mostly older. Sheridan has been seen frequently on shows on mainstream channels, comedy series that go back years, and the BAFTAs. More than once. There is nothing in my mind that points to Amber being a bigger star than Sheridan in the UKAnd you still haven't addressed the point that Dreamgirls simply is not advertised as the Amber Riley show, whereas all the Funny Girl advertising was about Sheridan Smith and only Sheridan Smith. As has been repeatedly pointed out now, the advertising was "Sheridan Smith in Funny Girl" (just like it was "Glenn Close in Sunset Boulevard"). It is not "Amber Riley in Dreamgirls", it's just Dreamgirls. The show is the focal point, not its leading lady. Agree so much! Sheridan is hugely bigger than Amber in the UK, not in America, but she is in the UK. Her recent portrayals on mainstream dramas have given her lots more credit as an actress as well as her numerous theatre roles and comedy series. Unless you watched Glee, Amber isn't as known to the UK public. She had done much more than just being in "a red wig with a scouse accent" Burly. Also, Burlybear, the show is NOT advertised off the back of Amber. The reason she performed on those shows is because that song is always connected to Dreamgirls and is sung by Effie so that's why the original Effie performed it! If Marisha was the main Effie then she would've been on those shows!! She only appears in the theatre programme and isn't advertised as being in the show. I've seen loads of billboards for the show on buses and haven't seen one saying "Amber Riley in...." |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 10, 2017 8:46:29 GMT
So you think that all of those people who saw those tv shows and booked tickets off the back of those performances get to the theatre, find out it's not actually her they're going to see, and just think "oh well never mind"? Do me a favour  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 9:05:59 GMT
So you think that all of those people who saw those tv shows and booked tickets off the back of those performances get to the theatre, find out it's not actually her they're going to see, and just think "oh well never mind"? Do me a favour You're still missing the point that they would have felt like that no matter who the Effie was, as it would have been that person doing the promo performances on TV because that character has the big song. It has nothing to do with Amber and Amber's popularity/celebrity. But clearly you seem to realise this as you've resorted to eye rolling rather than a polite response, so I think there isn't much more that I can say. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 10, 2017 10:22:06 GMT
Well, the show has been publicised COMPLETELY off the back of Amber, and her appearances on several very high profile tv programmes singing that one iconic song. I think it's safe to assume that a lot of people have booked to see her over and above the show. So you think that all of those people who saw those tv shows and booked tickets off the back of those performances get to the theatre, find out it's not actually her they're going to see, and just think "oh well never mind"? Do me a favour You're still missing the point that they would have felt like that no matter who the Effie was, as it would have been that person doing the promo performances on TV because that character has the big song. It has nothing to do with Amber and Amber's popularity/celebrity. But clearly you seem to realise this as you've resorted to eye rolling rather than a polite response, so I think there isn't much more that I can say. Just a reminder about my earlier point which you seem to have missed because we got into the "who is more famous than who" silliness (which I didn't start!). Yes it could have been someone else singing that song on tv, and if it had been Karen or Marisha or someone else smashing it then audiences would be booking thinking that's who they'd be seeing, and would be understandably disappointed if she wasn't performing. And that goes back to my very first point which was that there's likely to be a lot of silliness from the audience when Amber finally turns up (but it could have been Marisha/Karen/Ruth/someone else had THEY been used to heavily promote the show). I thank yow! One more point, we didn't see SS promoting FG on telly at the start of the run did we? Would that be because she's not a great singer? |
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Post by notmymuse on Jan 10, 2017 11:42:56 GMT
Has anyone sat in row F of the upper circle? Looking for a cheap ticket for this but I'm not sure how annoying the rail in front will be. As TM says, the rail is annoying. But more than that, the way the theatre is designed means you feel so much more removed from the action in row F than row E. It's really quite a difference. Dymanic pricing means (or did last time I looked at booking) that cheaper seats in row E forward do come up, so keep looking  ) |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jan 10, 2017 12:35:11 GMT
Did anyone notice this? I have just been looking for ticks for it and on Love Theatre it now gives a note as follows
- For performances until Sunday 5th February 2017, one of the alternates will perform on Wednesday evenings.
- For performances from Monday 6th February 2017, one of the alternates will perform on Monday evenings.
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Post by Michael on Jan 10, 2017 12:46:12 GMT
I think they omitted the "...and the other alternate will play the remaining seven shows" part  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 15:18:08 GMT
Well I guess it gives Amber 2 days off in a row which would help, but I wouldn't be surprised to see an alternate doing the Wednesday matinees as well!
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jan 10, 2017 15:57:37 GMT
Well I guess it gives Amber 2 days off in a row which would help, but I wouldn't be surprised to see an alternate doing the Wednesday matinees as well! Doesn't it just read like they are changing the day the alternate will perform? Because it gives a date for alternates on wed evenings to end and then mondays to start. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 15:57:52 GMT
Surely there will be a little bit of backlash from those who have already booked to see Amber??
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Post by d'James on Jan 10, 2017 16:06:39 GMT
Surely there will be a little bit of backlash from those who have already booked to see Amber?? That's what I thought. |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jan 10, 2017 16:26:47 GMT
So much for Amber "returning within the next few days". I might still go tomorrow simply because i'm fed up of waiting. I already had to cancel once because of ill health last month so i loathe to do it again.
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Post by SamB (was badoerfan) on Jan 10, 2017 16:34:47 GMT
Has anyone sat in row F of the upper circle? Looking for a cheap ticket for this but I'm not sure how annoying the rail in front will be. When I saw both Gypsy and Guys and Dolls in the Upper Circle, people were complaining about the bar (or rather, bars, because there's one in front of Row F, and also one behind Row E to ensure nobody falls off the walkway, so it's a double-bar). I went and sat there during the interval to see what it was like, and thought it was really bad. For Gypsy I was right at the top on the end, L9, and I think that's a better seat - you're higher up and further away, but the sightlines are clearer. For the cheap tickets I'd take K or L, rather than F or G. |
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Post by charliec on Jan 10, 2017 16:48:52 GMT
Amber is back tonight according to her twitter page (sorry out and about so not good at linking!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 16:56:03 GMT
Will we now get confirmation as to what Alternates do what shows?! |
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Post by HereForTheatre on Jan 10, 2017 17:04:10 GMT
The stars have aligned.
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Post by talkstageytome on Jan 10, 2017 17:21:35 GMT
Oh I'm glad to hear she's better!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jan 10, 2017 22:34:19 GMT
Was anyone in tonight? Reports please!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 22:40:05 GMT
Karen has tweeted saying she's on tomorrow as the alternate
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