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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 7:27:30 GMT
Sheridan Smith worked her magic, along with a host of others, last night in this. The story was well publicised at the time, so it comes with its own spoilers, but the performances alone in this fascinating tale- almost so far-fetched that it seems unbelievable- make it excellent viewing. ***** in the Telegraph.
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Post by infofreako on Feb 8, 2017 7:29:37 GMT
Not watched it yet but definitely plan to. It was such a strange story at the time
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 8, 2017 8:11:05 GMT
Sheridan's got pulling deep on a ciggie with her hair in a scrunchie right down hasn't she?
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Post by lou105 on Feb 8, 2017 8:29:00 GMT
Very much a case of "Truth is stranger than fiction", this one! I saw an interview with the Family Liaison Officer involved, who co-operated on the series and and she described some of the small details which unsettled officers right from the beginning. Sheridan is a strong lead in this, but it's also yet another metamorphosis for Sian Brooke.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 8:46:57 GMT
Recorded this as I'd caught up with Five's brilliant The Accused earlier in the evening and decided I couldn't face any more 'nastiness happening to children' stories in one night...
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Post by kathryn on Feb 8, 2017 9:27:34 GMT
Very much a case of "Truth is stranger than fiction", this one! I saw an interview with the Family Liaison Officer involved, who co-operated on the series and and she described some of the small details which unsettled officers right from the beginning. Sheridan is a strong lead in this, but it's also yet another metamorphosis for Sian Brooke. Do you remember where you saw that? I'd like to read/watch it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 9:50:32 GMT
I don't know some of the actors in this, but having Googled, I see that some of the transformations are quite remarkable!
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Post by mosiemo on Feb 8, 2017 10:00:27 GMT
I don't know some of the actors in this, but having Googled, I see that some of the transformations are quite remarkable! I spent most of the episode trying to work out what I'd seen some of them in before. Tom Hanson as Craig Meehan and Gemma Whelan as Karen Matthews were the two who surprised me the most
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Post by samjane92 on Feb 8, 2017 11:04:08 GMT
Including Olivier award winner John Dagleish...certainly a transformation as Peter 'Scouse' Brown.
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 8, 2017 12:42:41 GMT
Very much a case of "Truth is stranger than fiction", this one! I saw an interview with the Family Liaison Officer involved, who co-operated on the series and and she described some of the small details which unsettled officers right from the beginning. Sheridan is a strong lead in this, but it's also yet another metamorphosis for Sian Brooke. Do you remember where you saw that? I'd like to read/watch it. I saw it too. It was on The One Show. Monday night if I recall correctly.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Feb 8, 2017 22:48:05 GMT
I don't know some of the actors in this, but having Googled, I see that some of the transformations are quite remarkable! I spent most of the episode trying to work out what I'd seen some of them in before. Tom Hanson as Craig Meehan and Gemma Whelan as Karen Matthews were the two who surprised me the most Yeah a bit of armour and a brothel scene in a fantasy world make a big difference
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 10, 2017 21:05:40 GMT
Was visiting my mum today and we had a chat about this. I was saying I couldn't see where part two was going because they effectively covered everything in the first episode. She says, sharp as a knife "I don't know what it's going to be but they should flashback to that terrible family plotting it all". So there. 85 next week, recovering from a fall and an ensuing hip replacement op and Mamma Burly is ON IT. I don't know what the second instalment us going to be but if it's not this, it should be. I also asked her what she thought of Sheridan, and that I'm seeing her next week in FG. "Over exposed". I bloody My mum.
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 11, 2017 8:01:16 GMT
Have not been feeling too well so laid up in bed I watched this last night on catch up.
I was good. Love all those Northern accents.
It's interesting knowing all that we know now how all the clues regarding the strange behaviour are all there.
It was really interesting how, in the genuine belief that this child was missing, that all of the family were in the house (which unintentionally compounds confusion and distress) and the whole bloody time the mother's partner was playing computer games!
Interesting how despite being supportive, the neighbour is subtly becoming suspicious.
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Post by viserys on Feb 11, 2017 9:19:29 GMT
Was visiting my mum today and we had a chat about this. I was saying I couldn't see where part two was going because they effectively covered everything in the first episode. She says, sharp as a knife "I don't know what it's going to be but they should flashback to that terrible family plotting it all". So there. 85 next week, recovering from a fall and an ensuing hip replacement op and Mamma Burly is ON IT. I don't know what the second instalment us going to be but if it's not this, it should be. I also asked her what she thought of Sheridan, and that I'm seeing her next week in FG. "Over exposed". I bloody My mum. Flashbacks would be interesting. Though I guess that since Sheridan's character Julie is more or less the central figure here, it will be dealing more with the fallout. After all the community did to find the girl and support her mother, how do they feel now when they realize they have been conned, especially Julie herself? Who I personally think did it as much to help as to enjoy her own moment in the spotlight. As a foreigner I knew very little about the real case and mainly tuned it for Sheridan Smith and Gemma Whelan but I found the whole psychology fascinating and did some reading after the first episode. Also thought the boyfriend playing computer games in the middle of mayhem was really the worst.
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 11, 2017 9:50:29 GMT
Was visiting my mum today and we had a chat about this. I was saying I couldn't see where part two was going because they effectively covered everything in the first episode. She says, sharp as a knife "I don't know what it's going to be but they should flashback to that terrible family plotting it all". So there. 85 next week, recovering from a fall and an ensuing hip replacement op and Mamma Burly is ON IT. I don't know what the second instalment us going to be but if it's not this, it should be. I also asked her what she thought of Sheridan, and that I'm seeing her next week in FG. "Over exposed". I bloody My mum. Also thought the boyfriend playing computer games in the middle of mayhem was really the worst. It was just bizarre! In The One Show interview the presenter asked the (actual) appointed Family Liaison Officer "How soon into the case did you start to realise that something wasn't quite right?" and she responded "About 20 minutes after meeting the mother". The dancing to the mobile phone ringtone being the first indicator. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.
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Post by johartuk on Feb 12, 2017 16:35:47 GMT
I thought it was really well done. The actress playing Karen was excellent, ditto, the actor who played Craig. I watched a documentary on yt about the case the following day and they really did get those two absolutely bang-on! Sheridan did a good job, but it would have been interesting to have the drama done from the POV of Natalie (Karen's friend who quickly started to doubt her). Julie (played by Sheridan) seemed to spend most of her time barking orders and organising events, whereas Natalie spent a lot more time with Karen - hence she saw more dodgy behaviour. It felt like Julie missed a lot, so we had her being told about it, instead of seeing it.
A special mention should go to the lad who played Julie's son - he was brilliant! I loved his comment when they were going to the vigil - "We won't have to pray or anything, will we?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 16:55:28 GMT
I thought it was really well done. The actress playing Karen was excellent, ditto, the actor who played Craig. I watched a documentary on yt about the case the following day and they really did get those two absolutely bang-on! Sheridan did a good job, but it would have been interesting to have the drama done from the POV of Natalie (Karen's friend who quickly started to doubt her). Julie (played by Sheridan) seemed to spend most of her time barking orders and organising events, whereas Natalie spent a lot more time with Karen - hence she saw more dodgy behaviour. It felt like Julie missed a lot, so we had her being told about it, instead of seeing it. A special mention should go to the lad who played Julie's son - he was brilliant! I loved his comment when they were going to the vigil - "We won't have to pray or anything, will we?" Which documentary did you watch on yt? I've had a quick look but there are so many... and some of these are only minutes long. I'd be interested to watch it. (I remember watching something ages ago about how body language is studied by experts in these sorts of cases. This case featured heavily along with that of the McCanns.) I also loved the kid playing her son- he had some great one liners. There was one about the reward for Shannon being £20,000 and he quipped something about the one for Madeleine McCann being three and a half million!
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Post by johartuk on Feb 12, 2017 21:11:53 GMT
I thought it was really well done. The actress playing Karen was excellent, ditto, the actor who played Craig. I watched a documentary on yt about the case the following day and they really did get those two absolutely bang-on! Sheridan did a good job, but it would have been interesting to have the drama done from the POV of Natalie (Karen's friend who quickly started to doubt her). Julie (played by Sheridan) seemed to spend most of her time barking orders and organising events, whereas Natalie spent a lot more time with Karen - hence she saw more dodgy behaviour. It felt like Julie missed a lot, so we had her being told about it, instead of seeing it. A special mention should go to the lad who played Julie's son - he was brilliant! I loved his comment when they were going to the vigil - "We won't have to pray or anything, will we?" Which documentary did you watch on yt? I've had a quick look but there are so many... and some of these are only minutes long. I'd be interested to watch it. (I remember watching something ages ago about how body language is studied by experts in these sorts of cases. This case featured heavily along with that of the McCanns.) I also loved the kid playing her son- he had some great one liners. There was one about the reward for Shannon being £20,000 and he quipped something about the one for Madeleine McCann being three and a half million! The doc I watched was Tears, Lies & Videotape - about people who tearfully appeal for information about crimes, when they actually committed them! There were some great one liners. Craig taking a Calpol overdose "...because it was the only thing I could find" made me laugh as well!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 14, 2017 22:07:43 GMT
Gosh that was good wasn't it? Julie's speech in the courtroom, if that was word for word from the transcript... incredible given that it was presumably off the cuff. Sheri is quite good isn't she (he conceded, grumpily )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 23:50:04 GMT
I am watching the first episode now, wow, it really is some powerful stuff! The performances are fantastic, particularly the actress playing Karen, who is scarily accurate in her portrayal. And Sheridan, I think, is doing a brilliant job. Especially as it was filmed around the time Sheridan was having her personal issues, she really is giving a fantastic performance. (for those wondering, was filmed around March 2016).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 0:11:12 GMT
Good performances couldn't save part one from the terrible fate of worthy, but dull, for me I'm afraid. Still trying to decide whether to watch part two on catch-up. Maybe being less familiar with that part of the story will stop me reaching for the iPad halfway through...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 9:35:31 GMT
An outstanding piece of TV drama that will be picking up a few awards, I reckon. Superbly acted by all, and perfectly written, with some of the most striking one-liners, echoing the thoughts of the viewers, given to the most minor of characters- Julie's kids, the old boy on the mobility scooter, the bloke in the crowd outside the courtroom as the whole piece drew towards its sorry conclusion. Loved the angle taken to view the events, so we were spared the details of what really happened to the poor little girl, who has now found her escape in more ways than one. Reminded me a lot of ITV's Appropriate Adult from 2011, where we looked at the case of the Wests from the point of view of Fred's "appropriate adult", Janet Leach, who was allowed to sit in on his interviews with the police. Anyway, bravo to all concerned in the making of this one!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 10:14:52 GMT
An outstanding piece of TV drama that will be picking up a few awards, I reckon. Superbly acted by all, and perfectly written, with some of the most striking one-liners, echoing the thoughts of the viewers, given to the most minor of characters- Julie's kids, the old boy on the mobility scooter, the bloke in the crowd outside the courtroom as the whole piece drew towards its sorry conclusion. Loved the angle taken to view the events, so we were spared the details of what really happened to the poor little girl, who has now found her escape in more ways than one. Reminded me a lot of ITV's Appropriate Adult from 2011, where we looked at the case of the Wests from the point of view of Fred's "appropriate adult", Janet Leach, who was allowed to sit in on his interviews with the police. Anyway, bravo to all concerned in the making of this one! Same writer and producer as Appropriate Adult, which is well worth checking out if anyone hasn't seen it.
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Post by wickedgrin on Feb 15, 2017 12:18:29 GMT
It was filmed in the break between the Funny Girl run at the Menier and the Savoy. In the light of what subsequently happened with Sheridan at the Savoy she may have been better taking a few weeks off to rest rather than filming this harrowing piece. Glad she didn't though as she gave another wonderful performance, as did the rest of the cast.
Usually with TV drama I find them spun out to too many episodes, but with this it could easily have been in 3 parts rather than 2. I just wanted more.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 12:27:06 GMT
It was filmed in the break between the Funny Girl run at the Menier and the Savoy. In the light of what subsequently happened with Sheridan at the Savoy she may have been better taking a few weeks off to rest rather than filming this harrowing piece. Glad she didn't though as she gave another wonderful performance, as did the rest of the cast. Usually with TV drama I find them spun out to too many episodes, but with this it could easily have been in 3 parts rather than 2. I just wanted more..... Agreed, wish it was a 3 parter but then again, there wasn't really much to tell anymore? They didn't want to focus on Shannon herself but the community instead. Also find it interesting how Julie continued to visit Karen in prison but then Karen stopped letting her - Julie was a great friend but Karen was just a horrible person. Surprised she got let out of prison early. You could kill someone and only serve 5 years.....terrible justice...
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