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Post by danb on Nov 4, 2022 10:13:01 GMT
Yes, but was it simpler to follow dear? Ernie & Gladys came all the way from Daventry on a coach for the last iteration and left not knowing what was going on and muttering about them not seeing Deborah Kerr anywhere. Is it now IDENTICAL to the movie only with songs? Have they recreated a beach to saucily frolic on? Expectation is high from the name and thinking that Tim Rice wrote ‘Oklahoma’ with ALW. #seniorcoachtripmoments
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Post by FrontrowverPaul on Nov 4, 2022 11:38:06 GMT
Apart from an initially confusing gay bar scene I'd say it was very easy to follow. The staging is minimal, basically some boxes that get moved around and nothing I'd call frolicsome on a beach.
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Nov 5, 2022 0:31:36 GMT
Quite enjoyed this. Hadn't seen the original so no comparison and hadn't realised 'At Ease' was a new song until I went on spotify to try and add it to my playlist and it wasn't there. They did actually stage this for both sides of the audience really well compared to other shows I've seen at the Charing Cross. Some actions happens on the balcony above the entrance/exit so if you're booking non central seats I'd go for seats on the other end of the row (if that makes sense).
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Post by tysilio2 on Nov 5, 2022 11:44:29 GMT
Just found out that a past member of my local youth theatre group Llangollen Operatic Young 'Uns is making his West End debut in this. Cassius Hackfoth playing Montello I believe. He is one of a number of past members to have gone into the industry.
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Post by andypandy on Nov 5, 2022 23:06:12 GMT
As the stage is in the round type any recommendations if one side is favoured more or has better sight vantage. The side seats are going to be quite phenomenal and very immersive. However it is directed very well for all areas. It’s going to be truly something very special. I saw this, this afternoon in the side stage seats and agree to all of this. A sensational day at the theatre - I adored it. 9/10.
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Post by Steve on Nov 5, 2022 23:27:02 GMT
Yes, I saw this a second time tonight, this time from those seats, and these side seats remind me of the front row in the old Union theatre, where actors brush against you, and you feel completely immersed in the show. Of course, you do get backs, and backs blocking fronts occasionally, if you sit there, but the immersive feeling (and I don't mean anybody talks to you, God forbid lol) is wonderful, for those that like that sort of thing. If you do like that feeling, definitely choose the Row Z side, as one song is PERFECT from that vantage point, and would be the very opposite from the other side. The very best seats in the theatre are probably Row K high numbers, as you get front facing staging, immersive distance from the stage, and a good view of the relevant balcony for a critical song, but you probably won't get those seats in an offer, and otherwise they are priced premium. As for the show, I do LOVE it, and I loved it all the more because I had completely let go of the songs that aren't in it, in particular, my third favourite song from the original show, "More than America." Just let those songs go, treat this as a whole new show, and I think it's just wonderful! Not being particularly sensitive to violence (it takes Titus Andronicus and King Lear levels of violence to upset me lol), I paid attention to the violence this time for Dawnstar's sake, and there was more than I thought, though nothing that would bother someone of average sensitivity: Maggio gets beaten, a hand wrings his neck, an arm chokes him, and he shows up in bloodied face makeup at one point. Prewitt gets stabbed, he stabs someone, and he gets beaten down in a boxing bout in which he doesn't defend himself. Some spoilers follow. . . Although her character is somewhat tangential to the main drama, Carley Stenson actually does terrific work in making her functional songs, "More to Life than this" and "I'll remember the Day" sound superb. She elevates those songs. Adam Rhys-Charles sounds a little like Elvis Presley at his emotive best when he performs "At Ease," the best new song! Jonny Amies and Jonathan Bentley are as fantastic as ever. This is such a 4 and a half star show, and if you give yourself to it, you'll love it! What's not to love!?
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Post by Dawnstar on Nov 6, 2022 14:08:11 GMT
Not being particularly sensitive to violence (it takes Titus Andronicus and King Lear levels of violence to upset me lol), I paid attention to the violence this time for Dawnstar's sake, and there was more than I thought, though nothing that would bother someone of average sensitivity: Maggio gets beaten, a hand wrings his neck, an arm chokes him, and he shows up in bloodied face makeup at one point. Prewitt gets stabbed, he stabs someone, and he gets beaten down in a boxing bout in which he doesn't defend himself. I would certainly never, ever see Titus Andronicus & probably never King Lear!
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Post by oedipus on Nov 6, 2022 15:25:54 GMT
This was a pleasant surprise. I didn't know anything about it, so went in cold (I just knew it was about Pearl Harbor somehow, someway).
It's the most plot-heavy musical I've seen in a long, long time: an artifact of the source material, I suspect (originally a novel). And that's not a criticism: it kept me invested and involved because I honestly couldn't predict the many zigs and zags in the plot. It's also an impressive undertaking: a really large cast (packed into in a small space!), with judicious use of projection, and committed, talented performances. The score is pleasant enough (I liked a blues number the best) and the evening was--as the British put it--pacy. It clocked in *exactly* at 2 1/2 hours but never felt sluggish.
My only quibble is with an unfortunate side-effect of the in-the-round staging: the set was (at best) rudimentary with plenty of actors' crates being piled on in various configurations. That worked OK for the army scenes, but oof, when the scene changed radically to a queer bar, it was really hard to puzzle out the dynamics of space. (I agree 100% with Paul26 that the gay bar sequence was confusing--and it's the linchpin of the first act.)
But I was cheered to see artists revisit a piece they obviously cherished, and I've a sense that the (mostly older) audience enjoyed it as well.
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Post by Dr Tom on Nov 6, 2022 16:12:31 GMT
TKTS are now doing day seats for £20 each. Not sure what time they go on sale (maybe 10am or 10:30am). There only look to be a selection of seats, but still a good deal.
I think you can use Theatre Tokens with TKTS as well, so there's an opportunity for another saving.
Still haven't managed to get yet, but hopefully will do so during the coming week. Very glad to have read all of the positive reviews.
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Post by Steve on Nov 10, 2022 18:25:31 GMT
Mr Wallacio was correct in his prediction that this would mostly get 3 stars from the critics. The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Times, Whatsonstage, The Upcoming, British Theatre, The Arts Desk, Broadway World, London Theatre 1, Lou Reviews and West End Best Friend all gave this 3 stars. The Stage, The Reviews Hub, Jonathan Baz Reviews, Lost in Theatreland, Love London Love Culture, Pocket Size Theatre, The Spy in the Stalls, Everything Theatre, Reviewsgate and Theatre Weekly gave it 4 stars. Musical Theatre Review, All That Dazzles and dear Theatremonkey gave it 5 stars. I just LOVE this show. For me, it's critic proof and I want to see it a third time before it closes.
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Post by robertb213 on Nov 10, 2022 20:27:29 GMT
Mr Wallacio was correct in his prediction that this would mostly get 3 stars from the critics. The Guardian, The Telegraph, The Times, Whatsonstage, The Upcoming, British Theatre, The Arts Desk, Broadway World, and West End Best Friend all gave this 3 stars. The Stage, The Reviews Hub, Love London Love Culture, Pocket Size Theatre, Everything Theatre and Theatre Weekly gave it 4 stars. Musical Theatre Review, All That Dazzles and dear Theatremonkey gave it 5 stars. I just LOVE this show. For me, it's critic proof and I want to see it a third time before it closes. The WEBF one was me 😁 It's in no way a bad show, I enjoyed it and the cast are excellent (Jonathon Bentley in particular blew me away). I just don't think it's a very good score, and the reductions from the previous production have made it a lesser musical for me. But I'd still recommend that people see it. People often think 3 stars means a show is bad, and it doesn't! 😁
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Post by steve10086 on Nov 11, 2022 9:12:08 GMT
Saw the show last night and am surprised that removing a lot of songs and adding a lot of dialogue seems to have actually reduced the story content and made the plot harder to follow. Wasn’t impressed with any of the new songs. When an original song was performed it elevated the show to a different level. I remember the original show having two very strong love stories. Now neither has any impact. Lorene doesn’t seem interested in Prewitt at all during Act I, it came across like a very one sided affair. And Karen didn’t seem that bothered about Warden either, other than as a way out of her situation. Maggio’s mistreatment seemed to spring out of nowhere. It didn’t seem very clear that this was the result of the gay bar stuff. I really missed the female chorus, mainly for the glorious sound they made, but the brothel scene was so awkward without any women. Mrs Kipfer was just… strange. It was really hard to know where to look with so many fit and handsome men on stage! It’s especially upsetting that they are also so incredibly talented. Jonathon Bentley doing one handed press ups is just showing off The impact of the finale can’t be understated, especially in such a small theatre, and with such strong voices delivering such a strong song.
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Post by max on Nov 11, 2022 14:12:44 GMT
£20 Day Seats are now on sale via TKTS.
Also, for future dates (to the end of the run) it's now 50% off the lowest two price bands via TKTS.
The Day Seats are much further forward than the lowest two price bands, and are the second-from-top price tickets usually £47.50 (looking at today's grid at least).
Don't know if those offers will stay open indefinitely.
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Post by showtoones on Nov 13, 2022 2:46:14 GMT
I always see this theatre discounting heavily…I am all for full employment and don’t want to see anyone out of work but how does this theater stay afloat? That’s no shade…just a legit question…Are they getting government money?
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Post by austink on Nov 13, 2022 7:25:20 GMT
There are a lot of factors. There is no government money here but for the most part this is a receiving house so the owner is not taking any risk on stuff. Their rent they pay for the building is pretty low and they make all their money on Players Bar so the theatre is a side project. My understanding is venue hire fee is lower than a lot of theatres so if a show can work with lower capacity but yes most of their shows close early. They are not helped by the fast that TodayTix won’t list their shows which is major issue. Personally I don’t know how Katy Lipson keep all her projects going which is the crux of the issue here as I didn’t see this show doing any better than her prior projects there that all suffered (along with all other productions recently)but maybe I don’t understand her business model. I always see this theatre discounting heavily…I am all for full employment and don’t want to see anyone out of work but how does this theater stay afloat? That’s no shade…just a legit question…Are they getting government money?
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Post by showgirl on Nov 14, 2022 5:03:36 GMT
Puzzling & surprising to hear that Todaytix won't list this venue's shows; does anyone know why, please? I would always prefer to book directly with the venue if it will benefit them yet shows at this one continue to be listed at (imo) unrealistically high prices, only to be discounted. I'm happy with £20 but that's still a lot more than I'm paying for most of what I see - which I know is a personal choice based on my budget and preferences. Most of my tickets are the Southwark Playhouse PAYG type or £10 or £15 seats with the occasional £20 NT Friday Rush, making £20 seem top end, whereas for those who see more MT and in the West End, £20 may seem a bargain.
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Post by tmesis on Nov 14, 2022 8:11:21 GMT
There are always day seats for this (£20) on TKTS showgirl.
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Post by max on Nov 14, 2022 12:30:48 GMT
There are always day seats for this (£20) on TKTS showgirl . Or you can book in advance and see it for £13 as they have 50% off the cheapest two price levels. £13 is the back two rows of each seating blocks (either side of the stage). Go for the shorter seating block and you can be in the eighth row. showgirl This is on TKTS, not the theatre's own site.
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Post by showgirl on Nov 18, 2022 5:24:06 GMT
Thank you max: after much hesitating over whether to book ahead or try TKTS on the day, I used your suggestion above. Slightly annoyingly, their system wouldn't let me book the aisle seat I wanted as someone else had booked the next-but-one so I fell foul of the "leaving a single seat empty" rule, which I didn't know TKTS also applied (who on earth books a single seat 3 in from the aisle? I'd've thought that with the whole row to choose from, people would either want a central seat or an aisle one), but at least I know I have a booking and where I'll be sitting - and no needing to queue at the booth on the day so I can make better use of the time by seeing a film or exhibition.
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Post by kyvai on Nov 18, 2022 7:54:26 GMT
Surely there’s never any need to queue at the TKTS booth any more, unless one is feeling nostalgic, that’s all online as well? Or does the booth have seats that the website doesn’t?
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Post by thistimetomorrow on Nov 18, 2022 10:33:25 GMT
the booth have seats that the website doesn’t? as far as I can tell the booth just go onto the same website we can all access
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Post by kyvai on Nov 18, 2022 20:37:28 GMT
That’s what I thought. Last time I used TKTS I just went on the website whilst I was in the bus into town. Although the “day” seats go live at midnight I think so have bought them on the way home for the next night as well!
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Post by showgirl on Nov 19, 2022 5:06:22 GMT
Useful to now for another time re day seats going live online at midnight - thank you for that, kyvai. However, as I rarely (need to) use TKTS nowadays and on the day want to be using my morning to see an early film, the option to book ahead saves me both having to make a detour to Leicester Square and the risk of dong financial transaction on my mobile when away from home.
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Post by interval99 on Nov 21, 2022 21:26:33 GMT
Wonderful revamp of the original which seems to have settled into a powerful, emotional and theatrical production.
Saw a Sunday matinee where they don't sell programmes (or ice creams) for some reason so will need to hunt the cast down from the web but all were giving strong performances and certainly expect to see some progress to bigger musical roles in the years ahead) - you can buy a mug with the poster print for £6.
Strong chemistry between all the various relationships both in the love interests but also expressing the various prejudices held which were more realistic for the jibes and hatred causally given.
It seems to have bedded down some of the issues commented on in earlier posts and the storyline was clear and much more streamlined that the 2013 version.
The three female leads were strong and portrayed much more nuanced characters than the original show. The in the round set and staging is one of the best I have seen, all sides covered and the cast use all levels of the stage.the band sound great.
While fight the fight has been a regular playlist option was surprised I recognised several other tunes when they came up. Considering the amount of movement they do while singing the vocals were superb.
Certainly hope this production can get this musical looked at again as a possible tour. Being honest found it much more enjoyable, believable and better production than the recent south Pacific show.
Recommended and with top ticket £50 front row and many offers for the others its easily the best value west end show in town.
Was in seat K9 front row but there is a sheet covered row in front. As other have said stalls k back likely has a edge for view but the cast will be in front of you at some point either on floor or stage level.
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Post by showgirl on Nov 22, 2022 4:50:35 GMT
I was at Saturday's matinee and found this another slow burn (having very recently experienced exactly the same gradual reaction to Local Hero) but by the end of the first half I was engaged. The helpful comments re seating/views enabled me to book a (shorter) rear stalls ticket allowing a great view; having seen the layout, I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be in one of the small sections at right angles to mine as these seats are below stage level - but that's personal preference - I like a little height and distance.
Never having seen a previous production I had nothing to compare this with and I knew none of the cast members either. It was enjoyable; didn't outstay its welcome despite the long running time and I was glad to have seen it but don't think it will stay in my mind, unlike some of the outstanding work I've seen this year - though its fair to say most, if not all of those productions have been plays.
This may seem an odd comparison but for me it had a lot in common with the stage version of The Shawshank Redemption which I saw on tour recently, in that there were a huge number of issues (bullying, misogyny, homophobia, racism - you name it, almost) so too many to explore in depth and the characters and their individual stories seemed quite crude and stereotypical: the tart with a heart; the brutal officers trying to crush the spirit of the other ranks; personal sacrifice to save a friend and so on. Maybe with a musical or play of this length and breadth that's the best approach; sometimes, however, it would be refreshing to see less but in more detail.
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