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Post by peggs on Feb 3, 2016 13:28:55 GMT
Oh darn it all sounds too tempting though unless I can get cheaper tickets I suspect I will just have to be restrained, pity about Sundays, I went to quite a few of those and since Saturdays are more expensive (I didn't make that up right?) it was good to have another cheaper/less work rushed option.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 13:29:25 GMT
At first, Amadeus sounds to me like a risk - who wants to see that play now, (beyond Chichester)? - but Michael Longhurst (A Number, Constellations) will probably give us a bold new take and produce an unmissable show. Also for the core audience, familiarity probably works well - I'd imagine it's the unknown plays it's harder to sell. And I bet they can get some big names for both parts. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 13:35:25 GMT
At first, Amadeus sounds to me like a risk - who wants to see that play now, (beyond Chichester)? - but Michael Longhurst (A Number, Constellations) will probably give us a bold new take and produce an unmissable show. Also for the core audience, familiarity probably works well - I'd imagine it's the unknown plays it's harder to sell. And I bet they can get some big names for both parts. I thought they'd already said Lucian Msamati was Salieri? He's not exactly a big name. I imagine they'll get someone more high profile for Mozart (it is the showier part after all). |
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Post by loureviews on Feb 3, 2016 13:36:15 GMT
I definitely want to see Amadeus. This is a very good season, although I am gutted about the Sunday shows being pulled as that will limit the number I can attend, sadly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 13:38:08 GMT
I think it looks like a pretty fancy season. Well done Rufus. I'll forgive him for 'Evening At The Talk House' now. And 'Jane Eyre'. And 'Husbands and Sons'. And 'As You Like It'. And 'wonder.land'.
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Post by n1david on Feb 3, 2016 13:42:13 GMT
That's a lot of forgiveness! I'm somewhat excited by these announcements, definite ticks for AIA and Amadeus but also some of the more minor plays. Of course, the productions could still be messed up, but I'm optimistic. My NT membership is safe for another year...
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Post by Someone in a tree on Feb 3, 2016 13:46:55 GMT
A much better anouchment when compared to yesterday's one that Caneron gave! Seriously though, very commeicial but very good.
Threepenny can not be classed as s commercial musical
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 14:17:58 GMT
I recently heard a vague whisper that there's a lot of disquiet behind the scenes and Rufus is on his way out, but looking at this announcement, with the amount of well-regarded titles and names, not to mention he's even announced something as far ahead as 2018, I'm wondering if this is Rufus digging his heels in and proving he should definitely stay, or if he's setting up a lot of relatively safe stuff so any potential transitional period is less jarring than it could be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 14:51:48 GMT
You tease Baemax! Good gossip though - maybe spill all on the other board, so all evidence will disappear shortly...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 14:55:02 GMT
Alas, that's literally everything I heard - a vague whisper, some disquiet, and a rumour by no way substantiated by anything more solid than this whisper that he might not see his term through. If anyone's got any better rumours, or fancies getting into a whole unsubstantiated debate anyway, please do contribute!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 15:00:23 GMT
Alas, that's literally everything I heard - a vague whisper, some disquiet, and a rumour by no way substantiated by anything more solid than this whisper that he might not see his term through. If anyone's got any better rumours, or fancies getting into a whole unsubstantiated debate anyway, please do contribute! I can't say too much but I've heard the replacement has great cheekbones, loves a tap routine and is planning to ensure that Tom Bateman is featured in every other production. Shirtless. He's never run a theatre before but has run for the bus once. Oh. And his name is Ryan but I can't say more than that. My lips are sealed. Don't ask me to reveal more. |
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Post by theatremiss on Feb 3, 2016 15:19:12 GMT
I have over £50 in credit notes with the NT so clearly that will be swallowed up
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Post by Jan on Feb 3, 2016 15:23:28 GMT
Some of the stuff they're announcing is for 2017 and 2018 even (Antony and Cleopatra) - tempting fate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 15:33:11 GMT
I'm probably in the minority here, but I'm a little bit gutted not to see Disney's Pinocchio on at Christmas! I'm guessing the workshop Baz Bamigboye predicted didn't go too well, (which I suppose is all for the best as it gives it more chances to work on it - or to abandon if it really doesn't work!) Perhaps it was due for the Olivier stage, but the NT bought in Peter Pan as a last minute replacement...?
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Post by Snciole on Feb 3, 2016 15:37:02 GMT
I am not surprised there have been whispers, it is clear from that Sunday closure announcement that takings are down and it is because of Rufus' quite poor production choices. He could not have another 2-3 years in the same vein as it has been so far.
On paper it looks great, looking forward to Amadeus (it would be very easy to cast a Paul Schofield type in that role but this is far more interesting choice of actor), Angels in America and the new Hare amongst others. I think the NT will have more energy and will be full. Directors like Icke and Van Hove are very exciting and attracting interesting directors seems to be Rufus' strength.
It might actually get some transfers out into the West End to make up for the War Horse loss.
I still think the Temporary Theatre programme is a bit meh but I need to see it a fringe space and not compare it to the main spaces.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 15:39:37 GMT
Well, I don't think there's anything one needs to do about the Temporary Theatre programme, tbh, it sounds like they've finally run the course and it'll be gone by the second half of the year. Not bad considering it was only ever meant to be a year-long experiment, I just hope they find a way to keep some of the more successful sorts of shows they've had there coming.
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Post by Marwood on Feb 3, 2016 15:44:10 GMT
I think the Temporary Theatre is/has been working better as a place for spoken word/stand-up comedy rather than theatrical works. Maybe it could be kept for Platforms and stand-up in the future, there's not much else on the South Bank if you want to see stand-up, with the Queen Elizabeth Hall closed for the foreseeable future, you're pretty much left with Udderbelly and the odd work in progress at Waterloo East.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 15:54:49 GMT
Clearly I haven't read it properly so my opinion is worthless, but today's announcements sound like a concerted effort to get bums on seats. Will be interesting to see the annual report for RN's first year - I think the latest one only covered Hytner's last year. The level of papering and empty seats has been pretty high, which must surely be reflected in the accounts, but I'd also be curious to see whether donation levels have changed perceptibly.
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Post by n1david on Feb 3, 2016 16:01:41 GMT
I think the Temporary Theatre is/has been working better as a place for spoken word/stand-up comedy rather than theatrical works. Maybe it could be kept for Platforms and stand-up in the future, there's not much else on the South Bank if you want to see stand-up, with the Queen Elizabeth Hall closed for the foreseeable future, you're pretty much left with Udderbelly and the odd work in progress at Waterloo East. Doesn't look like that's going to happen. In the (positively glowing) Guardian report of today's announcement, Emily McLaughlin of the NT's New Work department talks about "Another World" and says "It just demanded to be produced, it couldn't wait, so we're doing it as a final extra piece in the Temporary space before it comes down"... so looks like it is not long for this world. www.theguardian.com/stage/2016/feb/03/national-theatre-rufus-norris-second-season-experiment-new-generation |
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Post by Snciole on Feb 3, 2016 16:05:17 GMT
Clearly I haven't read it properly so my opinion is worthless, but today's announcements sound like a concerted effort to get bums on seats. Will be interesting to see the annual report for RN's first year - I think the latest one only covered Hytner's last year. The level of papering and empty seats has been pretty high, which must surely be reflected in the accounts, but I'd also be curious to see whether donation levels have changed perceptibly. Absolutely! It feels like a band or singer touring again and promising to do mostly the greatest hits with the odd new song. Norris is not only reviving old NT classics like Amadeus and Angels in America but looking to theatres like Almeida, Old Vic and Young Vic that took risks with directors like Robert Icke, Yael Farber and Ivo Van Hove knowing their reputations will bring the bottoms, hopefully rich ones that drink at the bar and eat the restaurants. My only moan now I have calmed down is still the lack of phenomenal casting. The big names (maybe with the exception of Andrew Garfield and we could end up in a Kit Harrington argument about his status) are doing theatre quite regularly. NT used to be so good, especially compared to commercial theatre, at getting really man on the street friendly casting. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 3, 2016 16:17:34 GMT
As mentioned the Temporary Theatre, I always felt that productions in there always had a wooden feel!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 16:31:14 GMT
*tumbleweed*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 18:20:03 GMT
I'm sure I read ages ago they were considering stopping Sunday matinees due to the reduced ACE grant so this isn't particularly related to Norris' first season being a bit of a flop.
According to the BBC news story on this they will still be opening the building on Sundays during the summer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 18:33:54 GMT
Great set of announcements, building on some excellent productions in the last year (People Places and Things, Red Lion, Husbands & Sons, Pomona, etc. etc.). As The Guardian mentioned one of the most interesting developments is the replacement of the literary division with one that embraces performance that doesn't start with a scriptwriter. Bryony Kimmings too, I wasn't expecting that at this stage! The Olivier was the achilles heel last year but Longhurst and Godwin are likely to be very solid with productions for it. Ivo van Hove!! He keeps doing playwrights I don't like (Ibsen, Bergman (well, filmmaker)) but manages to make them come alive so bring on the Ibsen! Angels in America remains one of my favourite NT productions (Daniel Craig et al) and Elliott is well up to the challenge. The best American play of the last fifty years, I'd suggest.
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Post by alnoor on Feb 3, 2016 18:51:34 GMT
Wow.
I want to see Hedda.
I want to see Angels
I want to see Amadeus
I want to see Deep Blue
I want to see lots of shows at the NT
Just practising my conversation with my bank manager
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