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Post by Jan on Oct 4, 2017 13:43:09 GMT
I remember the article, and he's criticized European directors before for mucking around with his own work, adding bizarre elements that bear no relation to what he wrote. What I was taking exception to was your suggestion that his objection to work like this was financial rather than artistic. If he doesn't like Icke's work (or van Hove's) it's because he thinks it betrays the writer's work, not because he personally won't make as much money from it. What I take exception to on the other hand is Sir David up in his pulpit telling us Brexit is a calamity and on the other hand peddling Little Englander xenophobic views worthy of a black cab drivers about European directors coming over here and ruining our classics. This from the man who directed the worst production of King Lear in living memory.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 13:47:59 GMT
Well there speaks a man who didn't see King Lear With Sheep, which was precisely as terrible as it should have been amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 15:07:46 GMT
Well there speaks a man who didn't see King Lear With Sheep, which was precisely as terrible as it should have been amazing. ?
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Post by Jan on Oct 4, 2017 15:14:49 GMT
Well there speaks a man who didn't see King Lear With Sheep, which was precisely as terrible as it should have been amazing. True. Did the director of that attempt to shift the blame onto the poor acting of the sheep for the failure ? That’s what Sir David Hare did to Antony Hopkins.
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Post by Marwood on Oct 6, 2017 9:15:43 GMT
Difficult to get too excited about things the best part of a year in advance, but I quite fancy getting tickets for The Scottish Play and Exit The King, possibly Absolute Hell as well, depending on the casting. I imagine tickets for A&C will sell out pretty quickly, but I'm not too bothered about that.
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Post by Rory on Oct 6, 2017 9:54:14 GMT
The one I would really like to see is Absolute Hell.
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Post by MrBunbury on Oct 20, 2017 8:15:53 GMT
Does anyone know when the next group of NT shows will go on sale?
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Post by lynette on Oct 20, 2017 11:47:14 GMT
Now I’m trying to remember if I saw the sheep Lear. Jan, did I? When was it?
The NT always expects us to drop everything and book in very short order. The RSC has already published dates up to Sept ‘18 and I’ve even booked months ahead for the tiddly Park Theatre. I think it would be more helpful if they could publish a full programme much earlier for my personal benefit and maybe others. I expect tourists would be grateful too.
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 20, 2017 18:48:06 GMT
Now I’m trying to remember if I saw the sheep Lear. Jan, did I? When was it? The NT always expects us to drop everything and book in very short order. The RSC has already published dates up to Sept ‘18 and I’ve even booked months ahead for the tiddly Park Theatre. I think it would be more helpful if they could publish a full programme much earlier for my personal benefit and maybe others. I expect tourists would be grateful too. Seem to recall early in Hytner's reign he tried to publish six monthly nooklets but that didnt last and they soon went back to this ridiculous 3-4 times a year thing. They have just announced their 2018 programme so why cant we have a booklet up to August/September? Instead it will only take us to May or June. Grrr
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 20, 2017 22:04:09 GMT
Now I’m trying to remember if I saw the sheep Lear. Jan, did I? When was it? The NT always expects us to drop everything and book in very short order. The RSC has already published dates up to Sept ‘18 and I’ve even booked months ahead for the tiddly Park Theatre. I think it would be more helpful if they could publish a full programme much earlier for my personal benefit and maybe others. I expect tourists would be grateful too. Seem to recall early in Hytner's reign he tried to publish six monthly nooklets but that didnt last and they soon went back to this ridiculous 3-4 times a year thing. They have just announced their 2018 programme so why cant we have a booklet up to August/September? Instead it will only take us to May or June. Grrr Just be grateful you don't live in Germany. For the Berliner Ensemble you can only book from the 10th of the previous month, for the Schaubuhne it's the first of the previous month. I assume that is typical. I would find that incredibly frustrating. I often book things several months, a year, or in the case of Hamilton 18 months in advance. There may be a theory that having a shorter booking period encourages younger people to book, on the grounds that they are less likely to be happy planning their lives months down the line and might be more likely to book for something just three or four months ahead.
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Post by lynette on Oct 21, 2017 0:02:39 GMT
' Younger people' huh
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Post by showgirl on Oct 21, 2017 4:01:35 GMT
It's not only the short notice of NT booking going live which is inconvenient (and completely random dates - how about a rotating system at least so if one day never worked for you, another might and everyone would know which was next?), but the fact that they insist on covering so many productions/dates at once, resulting in long waits and risking IT issues. If you want to book for one thing only, perhaps only a single ticket, too, you are lumped together with all those booking multiple shows and tickets. How about a supermarket-style system on the basis of "5 items or fewer"?
The leapfrogging of various theatres' booking dates/production announcements is also an issue, and I don't know the answer, but there must be a better arrangement, even if it involves theatres liaising with each other and accepting/admitting that their patrons attend other venues also. How often do you book something at one theatre, only to find later that it has scuppered your chance of seeing a different production somewhere else, for instance because the latter is a touring one staying for one week only?
I can't be the only frustrated theatregoer who ends up devising really complicated lists and charts of what I can see where and when in order to cope with these complications - and even then, it only works with things I already know about and is soon superseded by yet another theatre announcing further tempting fare.
As for the suggestion that short notice may be an attempt to appeal to younger people, how about established audiences who are willing to commit their time and money in advance and may miss out if unable to plan ahead? I don't see how giving more notice stops young people booking; they can leave it as late as they like and I suspect day/rush tickets and lotteries are aimed more at that segment, though used by others.
Certainly whenever I complete a survey about how far ahead I usually book, I select the longest option but in some cases it's limited to "more than 2 weeks ahead" which is ludicrously vague and inaccurate, given how many of us report booking months ahead, especially those who have to factor in travel from abroad. Maybe the surveys are compiled by young marketing staff who consider anything more than 2 weeks a long time!
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Post by jadnoop on Oct 24, 2017 14:32:51 GMT
Hmmm. It looks like some information is hidden on the NT website about the dates for next year's plays. Specifically, John (yay, can't wait), Macbeth and The Great Wave. From a little rummage around, we have: Macbeth in April, see the talk with Rufus Norris on Apr 30th www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/tickets/10694John in January, see the talk with Annie Baker on Jan 19th www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/tickets/10692John in February, see the talk with Chloe Lamford and James MacDonald on Feb 1st www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/tickets/10687The Great Wave in March, see the talk with Tom Piper on Mar 28th www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/tickets/10682Anthony Sher talk about The Lear Diaries on Mar 23rd www.nationaltheatre.org.uk/tickets/10688If anyone wants to have a rummage around you might be able to find the full dates, but I haven't the time to write the code for that. edit: IIRC John has until now just been listed as 'early 2018' in the Dorfman, or something similar. Presumably this means it will run after Barbershop Chronicles, through January & into February, before The Great Wave. So hopefully tickets will go on sale soon!
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 24, 2017 16:18:46 GMT
I have already booked for the RSC memvers event with Sir Antony in June. See you there Jan?😆
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Post by Jan on Oct 24, 2017 17:59:48 GMT
I have already booked for the RSC memvers event with Sir Antony in June. See you there Jan?😆 I saw he had a new book out, you will be able to buy a signed copy. I stopped being an RSC member of any sort several years ago as there was absolutely no benefit to having it at all.
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Post by martin1965 on Oct 24, 2017 19:07:45 GMT
I have already booked for the RSC memvers event with Sir Antony in June. See you there Jan?😆 I saw he had a new book out, you will be able to buy a signed copy. I stopped being an RSC member of any sort several years ago as there was absolutely no benefit to having it at all. Well apart from early booking, offers and the opportunity to support a company very special to me. No benefit at all!
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Post by Jan on Oct 25, 2017 3:20:25 GMT
I saw he had a new book out, you will be able to buy a signed copy. I stopped being an RSC member of any sort several years ago as there was absolutely no benefit to having it at all. Well apart from early booking, offers and the opportunity to support a company very special to me. No benefit at all! Well lets take the Romans plays at the Barbican. Why would I book early and pay £55 for a ticket when I can pay £10 for a similar seat when they actually open ? I am not sure early booking is ever a benefit - whilst a member of the Almeida I’ve regularly obtained worse seats than I got when booking through the normal public booking.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 27, 2017 11:34:15 GMT
Casting info and booking dates just announced on Twitter, including 'John'.
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Post by bordeaux on Oct 27, 2017 11:52:19 GMT
Public booking 21st November. I must admit I hadn't noticed that there is a new Laura Wade (Posh) play later next year, a coproduction with Theatr Clwyd with Katherine Parkinson, billed simply as 'a comedy'. The new David Hare is called 'I'm Not Running'. The Macbeth and Absolute Hell will run into the next booking period, i.e. into late May and June 2018. The new booking period doesn't include Translations or Exit the King. I'm feeling a lot more positive about the National than I was in August.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 27, 2017 11:56:28 GMT
a coproduction with Theatr Clwyd with Katherine Parkinson, billed simply as 'a comedy' That'll be The Death of Katie Hopkins - though I daresay they might change the title! It's scheduled for Theatr Clwyd in spring/early summer I think.
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Post by QueerTheatre on Oct 27, 2017 12:03:29 GMT
a coproduction with Theatr Clwyd with Katherine Parkinson, billed simply as 'a comedy' That'll be The Death of Katie Hopkins - though I daresay they might change the title! It's scheduled for Theatr Clwyd in spring/early summer I think. The Assassination of Katie Hopkins is a musical by Chris Bush and Matt Winkworth, the Laura Wade play is called Home, I'm Darling.
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Post by jadnoop on Oct 27, 2017 12:10:56 GMT
Assassination of Katie Hopkins I really don't get why they're giving that hate-mongering banshee any attention at all. She thrives on the headlines that come from stoking up controversy, and this is just going to feed that beast further.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 27, 2017 12:26:37 GMT
the Laura Wade play is called Home, I'm Darling. Oh, got them mixed up. Damn - I was hoping Parkinson would be in the Hopkins one.
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