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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 23, 2016 23:22:16 GMT
Not so lucrative for the ensemble though - still doing 12 shows a week or the none names in big roles who still do 12 shows a week for nothing like that cash!
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Post by firefingers on Dec 23, 2016 23:34:00 GMT
Yes stars get a lot. I was told whilst working for one of the biggest producers that a certain US panto regular would get £70k a week. Their panto would make a loss, but they worked as a loss leader, with people coming back year after year. The 80s sitcom star on mine was on a meager £20k a week. Obviously they get a plush hotel room thrown in and that, I lived with a crazy old lady in an ice cold house with her and her 15 cats... (I exaggerate, but only slightly) and that came out of my weekly, which was barely more than I could normally expect for on a per show basis it was substantially less!
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 24, 2016 1:47:59 GMT
David H!
Theatre and Pantomime are two nouns that don't belong together, what a waste to a glorious theatre, the Americans must have as laughing stock.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 6:20:57 GMT
I think we all know that Carrie Hope Fletcher should Dick with Danielle Hope as Alice (Danielle's done it in Birmingham this year) and Kerry Ellis should be Fairy Bowbells with Victoria Hamilton-Barritt as Queen Rat
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Post by stuart on Dec 24, 2016 6:49:30 GMT
Cilla Black was given 150,000 for her Liverpool panto so big names are all on 20, 30 and 40k a week. It's a very lucrative job for a month over Christmas! She also demanded a chauffeur driven car to take her from her London home to Liverpool and back again everyday. |
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Post by trapdoor on Dec 24, 2016 8:20:29 GMT
I think we all know that Carrie Hope Fletcher should Dick with Danielle Hope as Alice (Danielle's done it in Birmingham this year) and Kerry Ellis should be Fairy Bowbells with Victoria Hamilton-Barritt as Queen Rat Your average punters wouldn't know or care who any of those ladies are though, however talented. And CHF's ego wouldn't fit through the Palladium dock doors. Probably. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 8:46:26 GMT
I think we all know that Carrie Hope Fletcher should Dick with Danielle Hope as Alice (Danielle's done it in Birmingham this year) and Kerry Ellis should be Fairy Bowbells with Victoria Hamilton-Barritt as Queen Rat Your average punters wouldn't know or care who any of those ladies are though, however talented. And CHF's ego wouldn't fit through the Palladium dock doors. Probably. Agreed. They are all very talented but they wouldn't sell tickets to the public. Pantomimes always have names in them and the Palladium one needs lots of big names to sell the expensive tickets. I wonder if we're hear the casting abit earlier than we did for the 2016 one?! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 9:28:54 GMT
Your average punters wouldn't know or care who any of those ladies are though, however talented. And CHF's ego wouldn't fit through the Palladium dock doors. Probably. Agreed. They are all very talented but they wouldn't sell tickets to the public. Pantomimes always have names in them and the Palladium one needs lots of big names to sell the expensive tickets. I wonder if we're hear the casting abit earlier than we did for the 2016 one?! Yes, pantomimes always have names in them. But we don't need names in every single role. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 24, 2016 9:32:15 GMT
On the Really Useful Website it does say star casting to be announced soon. So I do expect an earlier than usual announcement of at least a couple of "names" to get the box office rolling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 9:33:11 GMT
Agreed. They are all very talented but they wouldn't sell tickets to the public. Pantomimes always have names in them and the Palladium one needs lots of big names to sell the expensive tickets. I wonder if we're hear the casting abit earlier than we did for the 2016 one?! Yes, pantomimes always have names in them. But we don't need names in every single role. Cinderella did this year. The fairy is one of the biggest roles there's so that will obviously have a name. Dick and Alice are likely to have names too and it depends how big they make the role of King Rat but again that will probably have a name too |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 9:37:27 GMT
Yes, pantomimes always have names in them. But we don't need names in every single role. Cinderella did this year. The fairy is one of the biggest roles there's so that will obviously have a name. Dick and Alice are likely to have names too and it depends how big they make the role of King Rat but again that will probably have a name too Yes but Cinderella was the first one so there was no word of mouth to sell it. Normally King/Queen Rat gets a name, Idle Jack gets a name, occasionally the fairy. Although Jodie Prenger is the fairy this year in Birmingham. I doubt it will be so heavily stunt cast as Cinderella was. |
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 24, 2016 9:40:40 GMT
The casting of "names" in usually minor roles in a panto can really skew the story though. Obviously the stars have to have the stage time to satisfy the punters but if your Cinderella is not a star and your Dandini is (usually a small role aiding the larger role of the Prince) then the show becomes unbalanced. Cinders at the Palladium barely gets a look in!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 10:32:08 GMT
Cinderella did this year. The fairy is one of the biggest roles there's so that will obviously have a name. Dick and Alice are likely to have names too and it depends how big they make the role of King Rat but again that will probably have a name too Yes but Cinderella was the first one so there was no word of mouth to sell it. Normally King/Queen Rat gets a name, Idle Jack gets a name, occasionally the fairy. Although Jodie Prenger is the fairy this year in Birmingham. I doubt it will be so heavily stunt cast as Cinderella was. Possibly but if they keep charging £80 or £115 for tickets people expect cast to be big. I would've said all main characters will be celeb casting probably. The fairy is inevitably going to be a celebrity. Bradley Walsh would make a good Idle Jack |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 13:47:22 GMT
I can see somebody like Kylie Minogue playing Fairy Bowbells - she'd be great and so magical!!
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Post by daniel on Dec 24, 2016 13:52:44 GMT
I can see somebody like Kylie Minogue playing Fairy Bowbells - she'd be great and so magical!! Would be wonderful but I highly doubt it. Sales this year have proved that Qdos can fill the Palladium with a good quality cast, but no real A-listers. So I really can't see them paying what they would have to pay to get someone like Kylie, when they can probably fill the Palladium again without her. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 13:56:31 GMT
I can see somebody like Kylie Minogue playing Fairy Bowbells - she'd be great and so magical!! Would be wonderful but I highly doubt it. Sales this year have proved that Qdos can fill the Palladium with a good quality cast, but no real A-listers. So I really can't see them paying what they would have to pay to get someone like Kylie, when they can probably fill the Palladium again without her. Also, Kylie said in her interview with OK! that she is doing another album, thinking about a tour and she also has her annual Christmas Albert Hall show to do... ... isn't that just the gayest thing I have ever typed.  but point is, she may be a tad busy. |
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Post by CG on the loose on Dec 24, 2016 19:55:39 GMT
This year the initial pricing was a little lower, only rising to current prices once casting was announced. Looks like they're going straight in at the higher rates for 2017 relying on the success of Cinderella to sell ahead of the names.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 20:24:21 GMT
This year the initial pricing was a little lower, only rising to current prices once casting was announced. Looks like they're going straight in at the higher rates for 2017 relying on the success of Cinderella to sell ahead of the names. I thought they would do this. Quite naughty if you ask me |
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Post by Jon on Dec 24, 2016 20:35:45 GMT
This year the initial pricing was a little lower, only rising to current prices once casting was announced. Looks like they're going straight in at the higher rates for 2017 relying on the success of Cinderella to sell ahead of the names. I thought they would do this. Quite naughty if you ask me It's commercial theatre, they can charge what they want.. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2016 19:21:11 GMT
I'd put money on John Barrowman as Dick. He's doing it now in Birmingham.
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 25, 2016 20:00:53 GMT
Yes, I agree. Just seen him in Birmingham. He delivers and still looking trim but getting a little old for the role really. Full of innuendo and the "Dick" jokes wore very thin! His relationship with the Krankies was most odd. Both 69 - she is far too old to be getting away with playing a little boy. At one point Barrowman got into bed (don't ask) with her playing a boy. Not sure what was worse - him getting into a bed with an old woman or a "little boy". It was most bizarre! Let's hope the Krankies don't get the Palladium gig!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 22:44:10 GMT
I think John Barrowman will be Dick too. But I really hope they don't use the Birmingham cast for this, would be a real downgrade.
They should have big names in all the main roles rather than Steve McFadden and the Krankies. Am interested to see who they do cast in this though after the great cast this year. Would like to see Dick, Alice, Fairy Bowbells, Idle Jack, King/Queen Rat and the Dame all as names.
Bradley Walsh would make a great Idle Jack
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 28, 2016 23:54:40 GMT
"A" List panto stars are in short supply quite honestly. I cannot think of anyone to top Paul O'Grady and Julian Clary. John Barrowman certainly but who else?
Birmingham Hippodrome are doing Cinderella next year so I assume Julian Clary will be doing his Dandini there in the same fabulous costumes!
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Post by daniel on Dec 29, 2016 0:58:34 GMT
Birmingham had Julian and Lee last year so I'm not sure if either/both of them would go back next year...though they have had a habit of re-using stars in Birmingham in recent years so who knows!
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 29, 2016 2:01:09 GMT
Julian Clary's costumes will not go to waste!!
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but point is, she may be a tad busy.
